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In reply to cmag • 2:19p, 10/8/20
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cmag said:
rgag12 said:
Libertarians need to take one for the team and vote Trump.
We've been taking one for the team for decades. Quit running trash.
Actually, not exactly.

Trump was the first that wasn't useless since Reagan. You have a point earlier.

But its not even about "one for the team" any more. Its a choice between socialism/eventual marxism and capitalism now. There is no middle because of the stance of the Left.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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In reply to azul_rain • 3:44p, 10/8/20
hedge said:
After hearing some of yalls suggestions and further discussing with some older colleagues, I will give my vote to trump. At this point I think the election is more than just about the presidency, more the future of this nation. While I still have my libertarian views, I understand the need for Trump.
Trump pulled out of the Paris Accord. That's an extremely libertarian thing.

As is fixing the ridiculous Title IX campus sexual assault nonsense.

Trump would've been better if he kept up the narrative about the federal reserve but he likes to tout the statistics as it props him up.

Libertarians need to start running as libertarians in city councils and state senator/rep positions before trying to scale up to the national level.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 3:48p, 10/8/20
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Libertarians are never going to get what they want as an independent party. They should create a libertarian caucus within the GOP and work to create a working block to help move the party more in that direction. I would be for that. The Democrats have a Progressive Caucus why can't the Republicans have a libertarian one. I think you will make far more gains that way than constantly bashing your heads against the wall every election cycle.
This is why I like Rand Paul and Thomas Massie.

They are "play the game" republican libertarians.

Ron Paul didn't always "play the game" and I think Rand believes he has to play the game somewhat to get wins every now and then.

Thomas Massie refuses to wear a mask since he has antibodies and is donating plasma. He's a boss.
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In reply to cmag • 3:54p, 10/8/20
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cmag said:
rgag12 said:
Libertarians need to take one for the team and vote Trump.
We've been taking one for the team for decades. Quit running trash.
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In reply to Thunder18 • 4:08p, 10/8/20
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4:13p, 10/8/20
Part of the reason for our current predicament is Libertarian policies. How do you see a summer full of rioting and still think a little social conservatism isn't in order? You think more liberty to do drugs and sleep around is going to lead to LESS 2020?
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In reply to wargograw • 7:10p, 10/8/20
So freedom is bad is what you're saying ?
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7:21p, 10/8/20
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump
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In reply to txagbear • 7:23p, 10/8/20
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txagbear said:
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump
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In reply to txagbear • 7:31p, 10/8/20
just curious, but why ?
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In reply to txagbear • 7:31p, 10/8/20
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txagbear said:
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump
So the RINOs and moderate Democrats.
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In reply to azul_rain • 7:33p, 10/8/20
hedge said:
just curious, but why ?
Don't like him. Yankee blowhard. That;s it, really
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In reply to txagbear • 7:35p, 10/8/20
i get that but i think the RINO's are worse than him in many regards, especially mccain
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In reply to azul_rain • 7:37p, 10/8/20
hedge said:
i get that but i think the RINO's are worse than him in many regards, especially mccain
You are entitled to your opinion. I respect McCain. Trump, not so much. And, I will add, that his choices for cabinet members(and especially Barr) have been mostly disappointing.
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In reply to txagbear • 7:38p, 10/8/20
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txagbear said:
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump
So you prefer globalism?
Thomas Jefferson: "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
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In reply to RGLAG85 • 7:41p, 10/8/20
RGLAG85 said:
txagbear said:
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump
So you prefer globalism?


He's a liberal

Y'all should stop giving him attention
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In reply to txagbear • 8:33p, 10/8/20
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txagbear said:
I would vote for Bush or McCain. Might vote for Romney. Never Trump


Wow this is ignorant to no end
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In reply to AggieMac06 • 8:57p, 10/8/20
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Welcome to the party, pal!


I love you
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In reply to rgag12 • 9:03p, 10/8/20
rgag12 said:
Libertarians need to take one for the team and vote Trump. If the Dems win this election, we will permanently have to ask for permission to do everything we once thought we had a right do on our own.
When are republicans going to take one for the team and vote libertarian?
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In reply to azul_rain • 9:05p, 10/8/20
You'll be glad you did!
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In reply to TheMasterplan • 9:10p, 10/8/20
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TheMasterplan said:
hedge said:
After hearing some of yalls suggestions and further discussing with some older colleagues, I will give my vote to trump. At this point I think the election is more than just about the presidency, more the future of this nation. While I still have my libertarian views, I understand the need for Trump.
Trump pulled out of the Paris Accord. That's an extremely libertarian thing.

As is fixing the ridiculous Title IX campus sexual assault nonsense.

Trump would've been better if he kept up the narrative about the federal reserve but he likes to tout the statistics as it props him up.

Libertarians need to start running as libertarians in city councils and state senator/rep positions before trying to scale up to the national level.
And don't have exceedingly crazy antics at conventions under the national camera eye.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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In reply to txagbear • 9:12p, 10/8/20
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hedge said:
just curious, but why ?
Don't like him. Yankee blowhard. That;s it, really
"Yankee blowhard." If that's what you think of him, I must tell you - you have never met a real "Yankee blowhard".

SMH
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In reply to RDV-1992 • 9:14p, 10/8/20
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RDV-1992 said:
rgag12 said:
Libertarians need to take one for the team and vote Trump. If the Dems win this election, we will permanently have to ask for permission to do everything we once thought we had a right do on our own.
When are republicans going to take one for the team and vote libertarian?
You actually came close last round --- had the immigration border position been right wing in tone, and had a GOPE-E won the nomination.

The key is going to be to distance from the more Democrat side of the spectrum. They control most of the institutions, so some over-compensating is going to be needed for a while.

Its the youth that are your main problem --- even if it seems shallow, you have to run someone charismatic. With campus quality sunk to the level it is, you can't have a candidate trying to explain the 17th Amendment or Fed gain much attention.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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9:15p, 10/8/20
Dude

If I posted I was voting for Trump, I would get twice the stars you are.


Probably offers for good chocolate, deer jerky, and shoes as well.


Good for you for finding who to vote for.

I don't have it yet.


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9:16p, 10/8/20
No way way in hell was I voting for either in 2016.

Trump 2020 yeeeeaaaaahhhhh
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In reply to rgag12 • 10:14p, 10/8/20
rgag12 said:
Libertarians need to take one for the team and vote Trump. If the Dems win this election, we will permanently have to ask for permission to do everything we once thought we had a right do on our own.

All libs hate freedom, including Republicans.
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10:31p, 10/8/20
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AzulAg turning Rojo?
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In reply to AndesAg92 • 10:40p, 10/8/20
Fun fact, my original handle was my class year and initials. I didn't want to keep it as that, but I wasn't sure what to change it too. The rojo spurrier thread gave me the idea to use my favorite color in spanish
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In reply to azul_rain • 10:56p, 10/8/20
hedge said:
After hearing some of yalls suggestions and further discussing with some older colleagues, I will give my vote to trump. At this point I think the election is more than just about the presidency, more the future of this nation. While I still have my libertarian views, I understand the need for Trump.
I can remember being so angry over Cruz's treatment that I put my registration in for the LP here in Florida.

Then I saw Gary Johnson take the opening he was given and with it made Bill Weld his "Co-Presidential" candidate. Utterly disgusting. Weld spent more time using his platform to campaign for Hillary Clinton than for his own running mate. By the time it was nearing the end, Gary Johnson had actually advocated for a John McCain-like carbon tax on gasoline. Rothbard was probably rolling over in his grave.

Broke back to vote for Trump after Cruz decided to let it go and work for his election. Margin here was razor-thin.
But like you, the "above the law" status of Hillary Clinton made the "need for Trump" obvious.

There will be other opportunities for the Libertarian Party, especially if 2024 nets us a "Me Too" Republican like a Kasich or a Hogan.

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In reply to Claverack • 10:59p, 10/8/20
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There will be other opportunities for the Libertarian Party, especially if 2024 nets us a "Me Too" Republican like a Kasich or a Hogan.
Would run to the LIbertarians!
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In reply to titan • 11:00p, 10/8/20
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Meant this emoticon.
FrioAg 00:
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In reply to titan • 11:04p, 10/8/20
titan said:

Meant this emoticon.

The thought of Kasich and Hogan running for President in 2024 is about as pleasant as dreaming of a threesome involving Maxine Waters and Rashida Talib.



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11:06p, 10/8/20
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FrioAg 00:
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In reply to azul_rain • 11:11p, 10/8/20
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hedge said:
Fun fact, my original handle was my class year and initials. I didn't want to keep it as that, but I wasn't sure what to change it too. The rojo spurrier thread gave me the idea to use my favorite color in spanish


You and Spyderman should get a room
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In reply to azul_rain • 11:19p, 10/8/20
hedge said:
Yea his persona puts me off, but I'm voting to keep democrats out
It all boils down to that in this election. Your vote is a much-appreciated one hedge.
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