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bthotugigem05 said:

I don't think Boca Chica will be the regular launch site. Florida is where they will launch from at scale.

They're building sophisticated manufacturing and launch facilities at both sites. I think they'll use both at scale. Maybe even a 3rd and 4th.

Elon's goal is 10,000 Starship launches per year
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TexAgs91 said:

bthotugigem05 said:

I don't think Boca Chica will be the regular launch site. Florida is where they will launch from at scale.

They're building sophisticated manufacturing and launch facilities at both sites. I think they'll use both at scale. Maybe even a 3rd and 4th.

Elon's goal is 10,000 Starship launches per year

Yeah, there is no way they are going to build multiple launch towers and gigabays at both locations to only launch operational missions in Florida. Starbase may be the main testing and R&D facility, but they will be doing plenty of operational launches there too.

Will be interesting to see what they do with the large coastal property they are rumored to be buying in Southern Louisiana. Could be strictly manufacturing with the access to the ICW to transport to either launch site, or could be a 3rd launch site eventually.
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NET Launch time update:



Back to a Thursday
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TexAgs91 said:

NET Launch time update:



Back to a Thursday

Weather? Or are they going to do a test fire on the new engines to make sure they have the ignition issues dealt with?
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Not weather.
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I would think the weather would be better earlier this week, not later



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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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Update... It's Friday now

NM... Elon was drunk posting
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I was chatting with a couple fellas wearing media credentials at the bar in Port Isabel after the attempt on Thursday. The general comment to the initial thoughts of a Monday (today) attempt...

Yeah, that's "Elon Math"
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TexAgs91 said:

Update... It's Friday now




Doubt it with a TS nearby
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TexAgs91 said:

Update... It's Friday now



That is what I had posted, but he was mistaken on Friday, but didn't delete this post. It is Thursday, NOT Friday.

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Yeah still Thursday. I doubt the weather is a factor.
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The Sun said:

TexAgs91 said:

Update... It's Friday now




Doubt it with a TS nearby

Storm is supposed to break up and fall apart as it reaches the upper Texas coast. Should be no issue for South Texas.
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Two failed launches back to back

Buy buy buy
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For y'all didn't click through they note a third engine taken off B20 to McGregor in a followup post.

Also here by the NSF main account.

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Astronomers find the first atmosphere on a rocky world in the habitable zone | ScienceDaily https://share.google/FKHF684dj1NWKGQEF

Astronomers have found the first confirmed atmosphere around a rocky planet in another star's habitable zone. The planet, LHS 1140 b, revealed its atmosphere through helium slowly leaking into space. Located 48 light-years away, the world may have preserved its atmosphere for billions of years, making it a promising target in the search for potentially habitable planets.
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Only 96 years round trip for transmissions. Possible pen pals!
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Don't they also have another booster and ship in the midst of testing for Flight 14? Could be closures related to running those out for tests as well.
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Say's closed on the day before from 9am to 11pm and closed on launch day from 7am to 9pm...

How does that not fit with a rollout and launch?

What did last weeks closures look like?
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Flappy flappy.

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Kenneth_2003 said:

Say's closed on the day before from 9am to 11pm and closed on launch day from 7am to 9pm...

How does that not fit with a rollout and launch?

What did last weeks closures look like?

I am guessing it is booster roll out and static fire on day before, then ship roll out, stack, and launch on day of.
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So pretty much what they did last week. They stacked overnight Wednesday night before Thursdays attempt.

Weather future cast map on the Houston news this evening showed storms in the valley Thursday afternoon though.
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Now that I did a little research, this is interesting way of tracking GEO satellites while keeping away from US GSSAP inspection.



AI said:

In short, it's an orbital mechanics masterstroke: a roaming, high-altitude guard tower that can monitor the world's most valuable communications, early-warning, and military satellites, while remaining largely out of reach of reciprocal close-proximity inspection.

And how the US handles what China is doing.

AI said:

The United States Space Force utilizes a complementary two-tier satellite architecture to monitor the geostationary (GEO) belt, pairing the wide-area threat detection of SILENTBARKER with the precision inspection capabilities of the Geosynchronous Space Situational Awareness Program (GSSAP). Jointly developed with the National Reconnaissance Office, the SILENTBARKER constellation orbits above the standard GEO belt to act as a continuous, wide-angle watchdog that detects incoming threats and maintains custody of space objects without coverage gaps. In contrast, GSSAP operates in near-geosynchronous orbits, allowing it to maneuver close to specific satellites to perform highly detailed physical characterizations and investigate anomalies. Together, they create a robust "tip-and-cue" system where SILENTBARKER identifies unusual activity across the domain, and GSSAP maneuvers in to conduct targeted, up-close intelligence gathering.

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Will see what they do today. An F9 did go up yesterday I saw with an NRO payload (expended booster). So that breaks the 'scrubbed' streak at 2 at least.
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nortex97 said:

Will see what they do today. An F9 did go up yesterday I saw with an NRO payload (expended booster). So that breaks the 'scrubbed' streak at 2 at least.


Was the last flight of Booster 1069. 32 successful missions. Was expended for the NRO payload yesterday.

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Prop loading for a booster test of some sort almost complete.
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Weather outlook for tomorrow's launch

At 5:45 p.m. CDT, conditions should be hot, very humid, breezy, and partly cloudy, with an isolated shower or thunderstorm being the main weather threat.

The GFS soundings bracket launch time 4:00 p.m. (the one attached) and 7:00 p.m.so the likely launch-time environment is roughly:
  • Temperature: 85-87F
  • Dew point: 74-76F
  • Surface wind: southeasterly around 15 - 20 mph, possibly gustier near showers
  • Cloud bases: approximately 2,000 - 3,000 feet, lowering toward evening
  • Instability: about 1,600 - 1,900 J/kg CAPE, enough for thunderstorms
  • Precipitable water: about 2 inches, meaning any shower could produce a quick heavy downpour
  • Severe-weather risk: low; the soundings show weak deep-layer shear, no meaningful tornado parameter, and "NONE" for the modeled primary hazard
What it will probably look like
Expect a humid Gulf Coast sky with scattered low cumulus and some taller clouds inland or nearby. There may be plenty of usable breaks in the cloud deck, but a few cells could develop quickly during the late afternoon. Visibility should generally be good outside rain.

The atmosphere is not strongly capped, especially in the earlier sounding, so daytime heating could trigger convection. By 7 p.m., instability actually increases slightly while inhibition also increases, suggesting storms may remain isolated rather than becoming widespread.

Launch implications
The biggest risks are:
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  • Lightning or electrically active clouds, even if rain is not directly over the pad.
  • A passing shower producing brief strong gusts and low clouds.
  • Southeast surface winds, which appear moderately breezy but not obviously extreme from these charts.
  • Thick-cloud/anvil rules from thunderstorms elsewhere in the area.
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    There is nothing in these soundings that indicates automatic scrub. The baseline environment looks launchable, but it is vulnerable to a badly timed isolated cell. There is roughly a 60 - 75% chance of acceptable weather, with the uncertainty dominated by thunderstorms rather than widespread bad conditions.

    The current broader forecast likewise calls for sun and clouds, breezy conditions, and a possible afternoon shower.

    SpaceX's official page still lists the 90-minute window opening at 5:45 p.m. Central.
    What will really tell the story is a radar and lightning check during the final two hours.
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    will25u said:

    nortex97 said:

    Will see what they do today. An F9 did go up yesterday I saw with an NRO payload (expended booster). So that breaks the 'scrubbed' streak at 2 at least.


    Was the last flight of Booster 1069. 32 successful missions. Was expended for the NRO payload yesterday.



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