I had to organize this for a project and wanted to bring in dogs and was told (by USFWS), - paraphrased "dogs are too good and will skew the numbers away from the historic average."

I was ashamed of the "scientific" community that day - turning away more accurate results because it would negatively affect their chosen data stream.

OnlyForNow said:

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I had to organize this for a project and wanted to bring in dogs and was told (by USFWS), - paraphrased "dogs are too good and will skew the numbers away from the historic average."

I was ashamed of the "scientific" community that day - turning away more accurate results because it would negatively affect their chosen data stream.

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In other words, the historic average is skewed down which is inaccurate and we don't want to expose that now.

Wow.

exactly.

I was not allowed to use a more accurate sampling method which would prove that wind turbines in some areas kill **** loads more birds and bats than they report.

Tailgate88 said:

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OnlyForNow said:

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I had to organize this for a project and wanted to bring in dogs and was told (by USFWS), - paraphrased "dogs are too good and will skew the numbers away from the historic average."

I was ashamed of the "scientific" community that day - turning away more accurate results because it would negatively affect their chosen data stream.

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In other words, the historic average is skewed down which is inaccurate and we don't want to expose that now.

Wow.

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Not to derail but damnit this is the kind of **** that needs to get out. Get a hidden camera from and go to work.

SpaceX sues Attorney General Garland, claims unconstitutional move by DOJ | #RGV https://t.co/zrBATm6FfJ

— The Monitor (@monitornews) September 15, 2023

I prefer talking about hardware, but I assume the FAA is showing it's conducting due diligence so that when the approval comes in, no one can say, "You didn't check this or that"?

— Chris Bergin - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) September 15, 2023

Victus Nox, a concept/tech demo for rapid constellation reconstitution if we ever get into a shooting war, launched last night.

Of note, firefly is the outfit out of Austin.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/firefly-and-space-force-demonstrate-ability-to-rapidly-launch-a-satellite/

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I prefer talking about hardware, but I assume the FAA is showing it's conducting due diligence so that when the approval comes in, no one can say, "You didn't check this or that"?

— Chris Bergin - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) September 15, 2023

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Ok, plan B. When will KSC be ready to launch Starships?

PJYoung said:

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SpaceX sues Attorney General Garland, claims unconstitutional move by DOJ | #RGV https://t.co/zrBATm6FfJ

— The Monitor (@monitornews) September 15, 2023

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The DOJ has no clue how SpaceX operates.

To help build focus and a sense of mission, SpaceX's Hawthorn cafeteria is on the production floor, no more than 30 feet from Merlin engine assembly, 20 ft from the composite layout lab, 30 ft from Mission Control etc…. This means every barista, cook, and janitor is exposed to ITAR controlled materials.

I would agree as well. The one thing I keep seeing is how closely SpaceX and the FAA have been working together and from the time Spacex submitted their accident report to the FAA to the time the FAA finished their report was about a month. Pretty darn fast!

— Wayne Martin (@WayCharMar) September 15, 2023

SpaceX will win this easily because they have examples of hiring and getting permission to hire non-citizen, non-ITAR compliant employees that are qualified for the job.

The DOJs statements are false about non-citizens being okay for ITAR unless they have a green card or special exception which the employer has to apply for.

I smell politics.

Everyone in the industry knows and no one cares.

The "Public" cares for about an hour and then doesn't. Those that do are just labeled as "anti-wind wackos" or "green energy haters".

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I smell politics.

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I smell democrats, aka communists trying to destroy and hold back Americans at all costs.

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Elon Engineering:

SpaceX used the “idiot index” to bring down the cost of manufacturing rockets pic.twitter.com/BHmSKLxy6k

— Trung Phan (@TrungTPhan) September 15, 2023

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That's brilliant

Video of last night’s @Starlink satellite deployment pic.twitter.com/K7ezZLLusz

— SpaceX (@SpaceX) September 16, 2023

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I smell politics.

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I smell democrats, aka communists trying to destroy and hold back Americans at all costs.

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I smell bureaucrats that believe only large government as being capable accomplishing such endeavors and don't like SpaceX (and to a lesser extent other upstart aerospace companies) decisively showing this is simply not the case.

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nortex97 said:

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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I smell politics.

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I smell democrats, aka communists trying to destroy and hold back Americans at all costs.

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I smell bureaucrats that believe only large government as being capable accomplishing such endeavors and don't like SpaceX (and to a lesser extent other upstart aerospace companies) decisively showing this is simply not the case.

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I fail to see the difference.

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jkag89 said:

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nortex97 said:

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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I smell politics.

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I smell democrats, aka communists trying to destroy and hold back Americans at all costs.

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I smell bureaucrats that believe only large government as being capable accomplishing such endeavors and don't like SpaceX (and to a lesser extent other upstart aerospace companies) decisively showing this is simply not the case.

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I fail to see the difference.

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Fair enough.

Since SpaceX' whole goal with their starship program (or even as an organization) is to make humans interplanetary by going to Mars, initially, this is on topic for the thread I think;



(Caution, it's…a challenge and no I don't think it's likely in my lifetime, certainly).

Why not terraform earth instead and develop technology to make the poles habitable?

I'd guess playing around with Mars on a planetary basis would be safer. People are terrified as it is of 'anthropomorphic global warming.'

The idea of putting something at a Lagrange point from mars to block solar radiation is interesting.

Musk should use his tunneling company to make tunnels through the ice in the poles which being under ground will be warm and insulated like an igloo. Then we can have under-ice tunnel cities to outlast the WWIII nuclear fallout.

You don't need a tunneling machine to get under the ice at the north pole.

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Musk should use his tunneling company to make tunnels through the ice in the poles which being under ground will be warm and insulated like an igloo. Then we can have under-ice tunnel cities to outlast the WWIII nuclear fallout.

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Isn't that where the Predators store the Aliens in a pyramid for hunting when they visit?

It's going to be interesting when we finally get to Mars and colonize it. There will be two conflicting approaches.

There will be those who insist that future colonists make every effort to keep Mars as is and not allow one stray earth microbe to contaminate Mars. It is for scientific study only.

And then there will be those who see Mars as humanity's next wild frontier to be developed as much as possible up to and including terraforming.

I think the later will prevail. We've probably already contaminated Mars and developing the next frontier is how humans have always rolled.

I think it's about time we have a new frontier. Now that we've occupied every corner of the globe (except oceans are still pretty much untapped) humanity has been going stir crazy.

bmks270 said:

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Why not terraform earth instead and develop technology to make the poles habitable?

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The cold poles serve a purpose in global climatology.

This is a terrible idea, horrible.

I think people are less and less stir crazy overall due to massive soma consumption (digital, drugs, whatever). Combine that with world population going down in the next 50 years, the only people that go to Mars will be the truly daring. The type of people that will hopefully not give a crap about microbe contamination but rather exploring the stars.

They're not all communists. Look at the situation that drug out the shuttle and now SLS, and who headed the Alabama aerospace mafia.

Not sure this is correct but it's an angering take:

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Before it is authorized to conduct a second Starship/Super Heavy launch, SpaceX must obtain a modified license from the FAA that addresses all safety, environmental, and other regulatory requirements. As part of that license application determination process, the FAA will review new environmental information, including changes related to the launch pad, as well as other proposed vehicle and flight modifications.

The FAA will complete a Written Reevaluation (WR) to the 2022 Programmatic Environmental Assessment (PEA) evaluating the new environmental information, including Endangered Species Act consultation with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. If the FAA determines through the WR process that the contents of the PEA do not remain valid in light of the changes proposed for Flight 2, additional environmental review will be required. Accordingly, the FAA has not authorized SpaceX's proposed Flight 2. [emphasis mine]

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Tragically, my April prediction is coming true. This launch is almost certainly not going to occur before November, and will almost certainly be delayed until next year.

Note again that until the Biden administration, SpaceX was not required to get a detailed environmental reassessement after every Boca Chica test launch. Fish & Wildlife was not involved, as it shouldn't be. SpaceX made its engineering investigation, the FAA reviewed it quickly, and the company launched again, at a pace of almost one test launch a month, with almost every launch resulting in a crash landing or an explosion.

Under the Biden administration the rules suddenly changed. Now, all launches are environmental concerns, even though we have empirical data for more than seventy years at Cape Canaveral that rocket launches not only do no harm to wildlife, they allow it to thrive because the spaceport creates large zones where nothing can be developed.

In other words, the Biden administration is playing a raw and cruel political game, designed to kill Starship/Superheavy. And it is succeeding, because it will be impossible to develop this rocket on time for its investors and NASA at a pace of only one test launch per year.

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Read the same article. This administration will punish all who dare to go against its narrative, no matter who it hurts downstream. It's beyond frustrating and I feel absolutely powerless to do anything about it.

There can be no doubt now, the FAA/Biden administration* is intentionally holding SpaceX back.

I know this is the politics board but we're gonna launch early next month.