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Matt Walsh posted this on Facebook. Even if you dislike his politics, he is absolute nails here:

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Last week, Elon Musk's new rocket exploded after successfully lifting off from its launchpad. Starship is the largest, most powerful rocket ever built. It's a staggering 400 feet long with 16.5 million pounds of thrust. Essentially, it's a skyscraper designed to go into deep space. No intelligent person expects that SpaceX would be able to build Starship and then send it off to Mars on the first try without any issues. Things certainly didn't work that smoothly in the early days of NASA, or even in the later days of NASA. This is what science and discovery are supposed to look like. This is how they work. Innovation is a series of failures, and as long as you learn from them, the process is working exactly as it should. You can't achieve anything worthwhile without taking risks. And if you take risks, you're guaranteed to fail at least some of the time.

But we are surrounded by lots of very unintelligent people who are seemingly proud of their stupidity. And so the rocket's malfunction, which was very much expected and planned for, was met with jeers and mockery from the peanut gallery. There were many snide comments and laughing face emojis. Leftists in particular were delighted declaring that the explosion was some sort of cosmic retribution for Musk's ideological crimes.

This is what separates risk-takers from everybody else: the risk-taker has the courage to fail. So many people in our culture don't understand this point because we live in a world where so much innovation and discovery has already happened. We inherited a world of luxury where everything comes easy and quickly, handed to us on a silver platter. And we assume that it must have always been this way. We don't appreciate the fact that there is a whole history of work and suffering and failure and sweat and tears and blood that is all baked into this cake that we're currently devouring ungratefully. And if somebody comes along and tries to push the boundaries, or tries to do something new, we laugh because it looks absurd to us, because we are the most apathetic and ungrateful generation of human beings to ever exist on the planet.

This isn't just about Elon Musk and the rocket that exploded. I am just tired of the losers who have never done anything, never achieved anything, never even tried to achieve anything, and yet who think that they're in a position to criticize those who are actually doing the work. They are the pathetic, scared little weaklings who sit off to the side offering their useless critiques while contributing nothing of substance to the world. We have so few doers of deeds and so many doers of nothing.

Ironically, the achievers, you know the doers in the past achieved so much that they made it possible for people in our time to do nothing, to achieve nothing, and yet live in comfort. But the sidelines have never been so crowded or so noisy, full of people who are terrified to step foot onto the field but will laugh nonetheless. And a bunch of losers laughing at a guy who literally builds spaceships is just the most absurd and extreme manifestation of this phenomenon.
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Love that!!
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Modern day "The Man in the Arena". I think TR would approve.
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Jock 07 said:

That would seem to be much more in the FBI's wheelhouse vs DHS
From Wiki:
Physical enforcement of the ITAR (as well as all import and export laws of the United States) is performed by Homeland Security Investigations Special Agents (formerly U.S. Customs) under Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an agency of the Department of Homeland Security. Additionally, Customs and Border Protection Officers, also under the Department of Homeland Security, inspect imports and exports at U.S. Border Crossings and International Airports and enforce import and export regulations.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Tailgate88 said:

This is what science and discovery are supposed to look like. This is how they work. Innovation is a series of failures, and as long as you learn from them, the process is working exactly as it should. You can't achieve anything worthwhile without taking risks. And if you take risks, you're guaranteed to fail at least some of the time.

But we are surrounded by lots of very unintelligent people who are seemingly proud of their stupidity. And so the rocket's malfunction, which was very much expected and planned for, was met with jeers and mockery from the peanut gallery. There were many snide comments and laughing face emojis. Leftists in particular were delighted declaring that the explosion was some sort of cosmic retribution for Musk's ideological crimes.

This is what separates risk-takers from everybody else: the risk-taker has the courage to fail. So many people in our culture don't understand this point because we live in a world where so much innovation and discovery has already happened. We inherited a world of luxury where everything comes easy and quickly, handed to us on a silver platter. And we assume that it must have always been this way. We don't appreciate the fact that there is a whole history of work and suffering and failure and sweat and tears and blood that is all baked into this cake that we're currently devouring ungratefully. And if somebody comes along and tries to push the boundaries, or tries to do something new, we laugh because it looks absurd to us, because we are the most apathetic and ungrateful generation of human beings to ever exist on the planet.

This isn't just about Elon Musk and the rocket that exploded. I am just tired of the losers who have never done anything, never achieved anything, never even tried to achieve anything, and yet who think that they're in a position to criticize those who are actually doing the work. They are the pathetic, scared little weaklings who sit off to the side offering their useless critiques while contributing nothing of substance to the world. We have so few doers of deeds and so many doers of nothing.

Ironically, the achievers, you know the doers in the past achieved so much that they made it possible for people in our time to do nothing, to achieve nothing, and yet live in comfort. But the sidelines have never been so crowded or so noisy, full of people who are terrified to step foot onto the field but will laugh nonetheless. And a bunch of losers laughing at a guy who literally builds spaceships is just the most absurd and extreme manifestation of this phenomenon.
Amen. Reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt's "Man in the Arena" speech.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

The people criticizing Musk right now have no idea what it takes to produce anything new or cutting edge. Most of them also hate independent thinkers and the entrepreneurial spirit because is shines a light on how weak and irrelevant they are.
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I'm trying to figure out where that was taken from. With the sun angle and angle of the camera to the rocket... Mexico?
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Well said!
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TexAgs91 said:


I'm trying to figure out where that was taken from. With the sun angle and angle of the camera to the rocket... Mexico?

Yes.
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bthotugigem05 said:

TexAgs91 said:


I'm trying to figure out where that was taken from. With the sun angle and angle of the camera to the rocket... Mexico?

Yes.
I believe the correct terminology would be: " s "
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https://www.aol.com/news/bad-spacex-starship-explosion-blasted-200714686.html

SpaceX's explosive test flight of its Starship rocket last week hurled "pulverized concrete" up to 6 miles northwest of the South Texas launch pad and resulted in about 385 acres of debris on SpaceX's facility and at nearby Boca Chica State Park, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The agency said many large concrete chunks, stainless steel sheets, metal and other objects were "hurled thousands of feet away," along with a plume cloud of concrete particles that resulted in the miles-away scattering. A 3-acre fire also started on Boca Chica State Park land, which is south of the launch pad, the agency said.
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DeSantis will take Elon if Texas blows it
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It may be shallower, but the folks I'm hearing talking about planning dives to it are saying the believe much of the more interesting sections to be closer to 200. Even at 140 it's a fairly hefty deco obligation. I'm gonna keep my ears open, but there's not a lot of public banter about it right now while they look at legalities.
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It's almost like they are hoping this one really makes it to re-entry.
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TexAgs91 said:


I'm trying to figure out where that was taken from. With the sun angle and angle of the camera to the rocket... Mexico?



That was taken from the observation deck at Rocket Ranch Campground off Highway 4 along a huge bend on the Rio. That view is WSW of the launch site. Nice place from what I have heard.
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Kceovaisnt- said:

TexAgs91 said:


I'm trying to figure out where that was taken from. With the sun angle and angle of the camera to the rocket... Mexico?



That was taken from the observation deck at Rocket Ranch Campground off Highway 4 along a huge bend on the Rio. That view is WSW of the launch site. Nice place from what I have heard.
I thought it might be Rocket Ranch too, but it was pretty hazy that day and Rocket Ranch is 8.5 miles away... even further than Isla Blanca and that was a pretty clear picture. Plus there seems to be more water in the foreground than what I would have expected from there. Must have had pretty a pretty good camera setup.
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That's impressive refinement!
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Foggy launch for Starlink today....

https://www.youtube.com/live/-5EX1u0fA78
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Yup pretty standard for out here in the mornings.
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Thanks for the heads up! Clicked your link about 50 seconds before launch. A rocket breaking cloud cover is a striking visual.
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PJYoung said:

https://www.aol.com/news/bad-spacex-starship-explosion-blasted-200714686.html

SpaceX's explosive test flight of its Starship rocket last week hurled "pulverized concrete" up to 6 miles northwest of the South Texas launch pad and resulted in about 385 acres of debris on SpaceX's facility and at nearby Boca Chica State Park, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The agency said many large concrete chunks, stainless steel sheets, metal and other objects were "hurled thousands of feet away," along with a plume cloud of concrete particles that resulted in the miles-away scattering. A 3-acre fire also started on Boca Chica State Park land, which is south of the launch pad, the agency said.


They need to start calling it explosive upward thrusting to be a little more accurate, because it wasn't an explosion.
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Also from the article...

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Fish and Wildlife had previously been concerned how long SpaceX had been closing public roads in Boca Chica for testing, alleging that the company had exceeded its assigned hours, according to "60 Minutes." An agency employee said in a letter to SpaceX obtained by "60 Minutes" that SpaceX workers were parking on refuge lands.


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notex said:



It's almost like they are hoping this one really makes it to re-entry.
It's actually 20 and 29 according to the comments.
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Man that 8k tracker is rocket porn.
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Wow. So much for reducing the unique part count on those tiles.

I understand that the vent skin concept died, but thousands of unique tiles were a huge maintenance nightmare for shuttle. Luckily starship sits on top of the booster and is not strapped to the side of it.
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I'd bet a lot of those tiles are standard shapes and it's like a Lego skin
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PJYoung said:


00:19-23 watching flaming concrete blow out of the plume.
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PJYoung said:

notex said:



It's almost like they are hoping this one really makes it to re-entry.
It's actually 20 and 29 according to the comments.
Was going to say, I don't think 27 has tiles. SN26 and SN27 aren't going orbital and are next up for the attempted water landings.
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Falcon Heavy launch still on as of now for this evening, but talking to some folks wouldn't be surprised to see it scrubbed due to weather. Of note, none of the boosters will be recovered, which is crazy to think that it's notable after this being the SOP for launches for so long.
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Jock 07 said:

Falcon Heavy launch still on as of now for this evening, but talking to some folks wouldn't be surprised to see it scrubbed due to weather. Of note, none of the boosters will be recovered, which is crazy to think that it's notable after this being the SOP for launches for so long.
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PJYoung said:


Hmmm.... seems like it took more than 2 months just to tie up all the loose ends in Stage 0 before launch. Looks to me like more than a few loose ends to take care of, but I appreciate Nelson sticking up for SpaceX.
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Jock 07 said:

Falcon Heavy launch still on as of now for this evening, but talking to some folks wouldn't be surprised to see it scrubbed due to weather. Of note, none of the boosters will be recovered, which is crazy to think that it's notable after this being the SOP for launches for so long.


Maybe they've reused them enough and would rather dispose of them on launch rather than graveyard?
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