SpaceX and other space news updates

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Kenneth_2003
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I'm imagining camera guy and landing guy looking at each other and both saying, "You set the camera / you landed the booster... WHERE?"
MROD92
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What a beautiful launch, booster separation, etc. I'm a NASA brat, my dad class of '65 began working at NASA the day following his last final. Today is his wedding anniversary, what a cool way to celebrate
Zobel
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APR doesn't make turbines, they were the equivalent of a rental dealer. You need power, they bring it onsite for you. So SpaceX gets their fleet of gensets and the know how of deploying and running them.
nortex97
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Zobel said:

APR doesn't make turbines, they were the equivalent of a rental dealer. You need power, they bring it onsite for you. So SpaceX gets their fleet of gensets and the know how of deploying and running them.

Interesting, thx. I see a P&W logo on this one. I wonder about the $1 billion valuation involved.

I assume the alloys (in addition to size) are dramatically different vs. turbopumps in Raptor/Merlin etc?

Ironically, Pratt has been involved in a pretty 'serious' dispute with Airbus over volumes they are offering to commit to for A32x aircraft looking ahead. They don't seem to have a capacity to rapidly scale up for SPCX either, imho. I think they do all of that out of Hartford, CT. Could easily be wrong, but that's not a 'business friendly' place to quickly grow/expand industrial production.
Malachi Constant
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22k posts on this thread. This is the best thread on Texags and one of the best sources of information on the whole internet.
will25u
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PJYoung
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Zobel
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i think turbopumps use similar materials. not super different, but not the same. they operate a vacuum investment casting foundry in california already for raptor. the moat in gas turbines is production capacity and the knowhow to make robust designs. im not saying raptor is not hard because it clearly is, but its a very different kind of problem to make an engine that runs a few times for a few minutes each and one that runs for 32k hours or 1500 starts reliably. doesn't mean they cant do it, just means it will take time.

for pratt / supply chains - put something here to not derail further. short story is pratt doesn't make their own blades / vanes (they're trying to build a facility to do so in asheville but from what i hear it isnt going well).
will25u
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PJYoung
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Love that
techno-ag
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Cajuns are super happy.



Quote:

I grew up 90 minutes from Pecan Island, LA as a born and raised Cajun in Lafayette 28 years ago.

I left because South Louisiana had no deep-tech path for me.
@ULLafayette
gave me my pre-med degree. To become a biomedical engineer I had to pack my bags for
@CUBoulder
to get my masters in biomedical engineering. Denver had become a biotech hub that I was wanting to get into because my home state did not have the industry for me to be apart of.

Louisiana trained me. Another state got the benefit.

That has been the story for far too long for the boot. We raise computer scientists, mechanical, electrical, and biomedical engineers; then Texas, Colorado, California, New York, etc. hire them. We had the oil, the minerals, the talent, and the extractive industries. Other states benefitted off of them.

Louisiana has been used to benefit other economies without companies and industries investing in our own state.

That landscape just changed.

Governor
@JeffLandry
and
@SpaceX
have announced Starbase Louisiana on the coast at Pecan Island. $100 billion investment in the state. The largest investment in this state's history. Ten Starship pads on ~125,000 acres. Construction in 2027. First launch targeted for 2029. At least 3,000 direct jobs at ~$92,600, nearly double the parish average, plus 8,000+ adjacent jobs.
@elonmusk
has said the real number is closer to 10,000.

Despite what you might think, this is not just rockets over the Gulf. It is welders, technicians, engineers, and operators building the infrastructure for routine access to space.

In addition, a project this size does not stay a spaceport. It pulls energy, software, logistics, other deep tech, housing, and advanced manufacturing behind it. Welders who built pipelines will build launch infrastructure. Universities that used to export talent will feed a local industry. That is how a launch site becomes a multi-decade tech boom, and why Louisiana's economy will not look the same in 20 years.

I did not come back home to watch it. I came home to build in it, and I am all in.

Kids in Abbeville, Kaplan, Lafayette, and Pecan Island will grow up watching Starships leave their own coast. They will not have to leave home to work on the frontier.

The Louisiana Purchase stretched America from sea to shining sea. This stretches humanity toward the stars we look at every night. This turns our civilization into a Kardashev Type II civilization.

And the marsh is not an afterthought. This coast has been disappearing for decades in places 3 to 23 feet a year. We currently can not afford to save it alone. SpaceX is partnering with the state on the Coastal Master Plan: shoreline protection, marsh creation, wildlife habitat. $25 million to the Community Foundation of Acadiana. Parish payments projected over $820 million across 25 years. First work on the ground includes the shoreline.

If you care about this ecosystem, read the actual commitments before you write it off or protest against what this means for our great state.

South Louisiana has the workforce, the work ethic, and the skillset. What we lacked was a reason for the next generation to stay. This is that reason.

Thank you
@LAGovJeffLandry

@elonmusk

@SpaceX
for betting on Cajun country.

The next kid from Lafayette should not have to leave to build the future.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
bthotugigem05
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That was inspiring, geez. If anyone in Louisiana could read I'm sure they would be motivated as hell.
Maximus_Meridius
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Zobel said:

i think turbopumps use similar materials. not super different, but not the same. they operate a vacuum investment casting foundry in california already for raptor. the moat in gas turbines is production capacity and the knowhow to make robust designs. im not saying raptor is not hard because it clearly is, but its a very different kind of problem to make an engine that runs a few times for a few minutes each and one that runs for 32k hours or 1500 starts reliably. doesn't mean they cant do it, just means it will take time.

for pratt / supply chains - put something here to not derail further. short story is pratt doesn't make their own blades / vanes (they're trying to build a facility to do so in asheville but from what i hear it isnt going well).

It's been a while since I talked with the design team, but I believe Merlin's turbopump impeller is Inconel 620.
double aught
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Just a tad hyperbolic there, Nate.
Decay
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double aught said:

Just a tad hyperbolic there, Nate.

Louisiana is the new capitol of the world!!!!!
Kenneth_2003
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double aught said:

Just a tad hyperbolic there, Nate.

He's not wrong.
Up until now how much of the Louisiana Bayou country was just eeking out a marginal barely above subsistence lifestyle?

Jokes aside, yes you could go to college there and presumably get a descent education, but there was no heavy industry or research base to truly keep you there. As he stated, you did the bachelors work there and left for your graduate work and subsequent career.

Now how much of the work that will be done there will be advanced trades vs research done at other places certainly remains to be seen. Either way it will be an economic impact like that area has likely never seen.
Ag87H2O
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Decay said:

double aught said:

Just a tad hyperbolic there, Nate.

Louisiana is the new capitol of the world!!!!!

No, that would be Terafab Texas -

"Well, doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic, if you can keep it" - Benjamin Franklin
hph6203
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SpaceX applied for orbital launch with FCC of V3 sats.

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jt2hunt
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Ruh roh! It is happening!
nortex97
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I just don't think the space coast cadence is going to decrease in significance. Hopefully Artemis is retired by 2029.
bthotugigem05
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I'm in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, right now and spent the morning touristing around their incredible Soviet-opulent metro stations (as one does). One of the stations has murals of famous cosmonauts, including Yuri Gagarin as well as a mural celebrating the Apollo-Soyuz mission.



will25u
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Next Super Heavy launch around Sept. 15? Coming up soon.

tk for tu juan
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10 years ago

PJYoung
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tk for tu juan said:

10 years ago



"We literally thought someone had shot the rocket, "Musk [stated in an interview, as reported by the Washington Post. Investigators noticed marks resembling bullet holes on nearby structures and calculated that a high-powered rifle shot could theoretically trigger a similar failure. This heightened suspicions given the intense rocket rivalry with United Launch Alliance (ULA) at the time.

SpaceX pressured federal authorities, including the FAA and the Air Force, to look into the outside-force and sabotage angles. Ultimately, no evidence of a gunman or foul play was found. SpaceX recreated the anomaly and determined it was a self-inflicted internal failure caused by a helium tank breach rather than an external attack.

PJYoung
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zoomed in to the order of milliseconds.

We used accelerometer data to triangulate the origin of the failure, similar to what we did for the CRS-7 investigation. To our surprise it pointed to a similar location near the lox tank COPVs. It took weeks of testing to replicate the failure and when we did, it was a strange mix of feeling overjoyed that we figured it out and extremely sad that we didn't prevent the failure in the first place.

That said, shooting COPVs from a mile away with a long-range .50-caliber rifle was pretty cool. Thankfully we were able to close that branch of the fault tree
tk for tu juan
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People taking pot shots at a rocket may be a possibility in Louisiana.

Amazing advancement since that accident and for the next ten years
will25u
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txags92
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will25u said:



Did SpaceX even bid? Can't imagine how they would lose to Blue Origin when BO doesn't even have a rocket to launch and has commitments to lunar missions it can't complete right now.
techno-ag
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txags92 said:

will25u said:



Did SpaceX even bid? Can't imagine how they would lose to Blue Origin when BO doesn't even have a rocket to launch and has commitments to lunar missions it can't complete right now.
Government loves competition.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Mathguy64
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Somewhat explain to me what BO has done to make you even think they can do this. I'll hang up and listen.
techno-ag
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They really are good stewards.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
TexAgs91
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Mathguy64 said:

Somewhat explain to me what BO has done to make you even think they can do this. I'll hang up and listen.


They've shown Nasa they aren't afraid to file a lawsuit
Chemistry happens and eventually the rocks get opinions...
Ad Lunam
txags92
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techno-ag said:



They really are good stewards.

Are they having somebody check the beach for turtle nests during that part of the season. Hate to see a tractor running down the beach if there might still be nests out there. Though they may have hatched out by now.
txags92
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techno-ag said:

txags92 said:

will25u said:



Did SpaceX even bid? Can't imagine how they would lose to Blue Origin when BO doesn't even have a rocket to launch and has commitments to lunar missions it can't complete right now.

Government loves competition.

Believe me, I know. But they typically look at whether your company has the resources to handle the new contract requirements on top of your existing commitments. BO has shown nothing to indicate that they have those resources. But if SpaceX is truly pivoting to data centers and AI, they may not have even bid for this one, though with Mars involved, I would think that is unlikely.
will25u
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