What happened with the O2 venting to cause the loss of the vehicle?
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It ignited
I want to see this video extended for 2023
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
Not seeing that. They were trying to test the expendable vehicle's flight profile up to the point they got to. Mainly I think they wanted to see vehicle separation, loading profiles and durability of the craft.bmks270 said:nortex97 said:
Yes, or to put it another way, they kept it in a suborbital flight profile (or rather designed the mission around that) such that in case anything happened it wouldn't wind up in an uncontrolled orbital pattern for...multiple orbits.
Adding a dummy payload mass for purposes of minimizing this vent for stage 2 would have had the added negative impact of increasing the time spent at/around the launch tower. They (also) couldn't 'under-fill' the vehicle designed for a 100+ton LEO capacity of propellant or it would have changed the v-max etc. profiles drastically so they had to vent the fuel in stage 2 but that then wound up causing the...loss of vehicle.
Anyway, that's my understanding.
Trying to take short cuts cost them once again.
Why add time and energy when they were going to blow up the craft after that anyway?
I didn't describe that well. Cost benefit, no benefit for the additional cost
What is this plane used for?munch96 said:
X-59 Reveal by NASA...
It is going to be used to test technology to reduce the sound level of sonic booms during supersonic flight. If they can get the level down, speed restrictions for continental flight may be eased or lifted.
It's an experimental craft designed to reduce the noise of sonic booms so that supersonic jets can fly fast without disturbing people and wildlife on the ground.
After new data from JPL Horizons as well as the latest statement from @astrobotic it's now looking likely that #peregrine will return home, impacting Earth over the Great Barrier Reef on January 18. pic.twitter.com/hV3mGRgHIV
— Tony Dunn (@tony873004) January 13, 2024
At that speed imagine the pace of 150 SpaceX launches not including others. Crazy.
hmmm, I'm in Sydneywill25u said:After new data from JPL Horizons as well as the latest statement from @astrobotic it's now looking likely that #peregrine will return home, impacting Earth over the Great Barrier Reef on January 18. pic.twitter.com/hV3mGRgHIV
— Tony Dunn (@tony873004) January 13, 2024
Really makes you think
Wonder how much those people with remains on board paid just to have the ashes end up scattered over the ocean?
It was ultimately a pretty big gamble anyway, going on a first-ever launch for the Vulcan Centaur, but one those people could afford to lose.
Pretty good video/guesswork as usual.
Pretty good video/guesswork as usual.
YellowPot_97 said:
Wonder how much those people with remains on board paid just to have the ashes end up scattered over the ocean?
Looks like pricing is from about $2500--$12,000. Have to assume the Luna mission program is on the high side of that range.
If their website is correct looks like they had services on both the lander and the centaur upper stage.
Some impressive hardware for sure. Any idea what the propulsion system is?fullback44 said:What is this plane used for?munch96 said:
X-59 Reveal by NASA...
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
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The engine is a General Electric F414.Quote:
Any idea what the propulsion system is?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Thank you sirRapier108 said:The engine is a General Electric F414.Quote:
Any idea what the propulsion system is?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
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- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
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SpaceX requests 43 acres of Boca Chica State Park from Texas
— CBS 4 News (@cbs4rgv) January 17, 2024
https://t.co/1SEP3YeJIf
I think this is a 'swap' deal where their holding company, "Bahia Grande" already owns it but now they are just going to transfer it to TPWD in exchange for another parcel to Space X?
TPWD to consider land swap with SpaceX at Boca Chica | #RGV
— Valley Morning Star (@valleystar) January 17, 2024
🔗: https://t.co/3fmqNpbaVs pic.twitter.com/YLgCEEPpiV
Quote:
he Texas Parks and Wildlife Department Commission on Jan. 25 will consider exchanging 43 acres of Boca Chica State Park for 477 acres of land on Highway 100 between Laguna Vista and Laguna Heights from SpaceX.
SpaceX requested the transfer as it desires to expand its operational footprint around its launch facilities at Boca Chica.
The land SpaceX would provide in the exchange is owned by a company called Bahia Grande Holdings, according to Cameron County Appraisal District records.
Those records match up with a map of the exchange on the TPWD Commission agenda.
Are you guys seeing Starship V3?
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
Update on Astrobotic Peregrine lander. Expected to burn up over the South Pacific near Fiji. Wasn't a complete failure, but doesn't bode well for their next mission to land NASA Viper rover on the moon using a completely different space craft. The rover alone is the size of a golf cart and weighs 430kg. Total mission cost is $435million.
https://news.yahoo.com/peregrine-lander-us-moon-mission-000128878.html
https://news.yahoo.com/peregrine-lander-us-moon-mission-000128878.html
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
39A's Starship launch site, mothballed as SpaceX focuses on Starbase. https://t.co/BiqBVOsplO
— Chris Bergin - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) January 18, 2024
How close can you get to the launch site to view a lift-off?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
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- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
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At Boca Chica I believe by boat you can get as close as 3 miles away but I'm not entirely sure. My spot is 5.1 miles as the crow flies.Leonard H. Stringfield said:
How close can you get to the launch site to view a lift-off?
Thanks..close enough to feel some rumble I would imagine?PJYoung said:At Boca Chica I believe by boat you can get as close as 3 miles away but I'm not entirely sure. My spot is 5.1 miles as the crow flies.Leonard H. Stringfield said:
How close can you get to the launch site to view a lift-off?
thanks..roadtrip perhaps
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
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Yeah plenty of rumble in your chest at 5 miles. It's a thing of beauty.
I will always regret not heading out to Fla to watch the shuttle take off.PJYoung said:
Yeah plenty of rumble in your chest at 5 miles. It's a thing of beauty.
Won't miss this one.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
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SpaceX about to launch 4 European astronauts to the ISS for Axiom.
The linked European writer for Arstechnica had an interesting take on it, although there's really no other way for the smaller European countries to get their astronauts into space. Even the bigger countries went through the auspices of Roscosmos or NASA.
However at least one is hopping the line as a reserve astronaut for the ESA, which is kind of funny.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/axiom-and-spacex-are-disrupting-europes-traditional-pathway-to-space/
Shorter article:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/18/world/axiom-3-spacex-nasa-launch-scn/index.html
The linked European writer for Arstechnica had an interesting take on it, although there's really no other way for the smaller European countries to get their astronauts into space. Even the bigger countries went through the auspices of Roscosmos or NASA.
However at least one is hopping the line as a reserve astronaut for the ESA, which is kind of funny.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/axiom-and-spacex-are-disrupting-europes-traditional-pathway-to-space/
Shorter article:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/18/world/axiom-3-spacex-nasa-launch-scn/index.html
Leonard H. Stringfield said:Thanks..close enough to feel some rumble I would imagine?PJYoung said:At Boca Chica I believe by boat you can get as close as 3 miles away but I'm not entirely sure. My spot is 5.1 miles as the crow flies.Leonard H. Stringfield said:
How close can you get to the launch site to view a lift-off?
thanks..roadtrip perhaps
My folks are ~22 miles from the McGregor site and can often hear / feel when they are lighting stuff up, even when inside with the tv on.
About to go...
They probably need to get used to it. It's gonna get a lot more frequent.
They've been there quite some time and are quite used to it already. Our place growing up was a small town with a train that went through town. This is their new equivalent.
Wait...near Waco??RED AG 98 said:Leonard H. Stringfield said:Thanks..close enough to feel some rumble I would imagine?PJYoung said:At Boca Chica I believe by boat you can get as close as 3 miles away but I'm not entirely sure. My spot is 5.1 miles as the crow flies.Leonard H. Stringfield said:
How close can you get to the launch site to view a lift-off?
thanks..roadtrip perhaps
My folks are ~22 miles from the McGregor site and can often hear / feel when they are lighting stuff up, even when inside with the tv on.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
Just outside, yes
Damn. I've been involved in other projects....RED AG 98 said:
Just outside, yes
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024
Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
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