White husband watches his black wife "go woke".

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Texaggie7nine
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1/ Woke anti-racism is child abuse.
My family is living the antithesis of @thomaschattwill's Self Portrait in Black and White. And I fear it may damage my children irrevocably.
Let me explain

2/ I'm white, my wife's black. When we met, we "saw each other's race," but we didn't think that was the most interesting thing about us. We foolishly thought our children would be part of a post-racial future, in which all Americans could just be human beings to one another.

3/ Then came Trump. I decided I should try to learn more about my fellow citizens, who I now realized were completely opaque to me. In contrast, my wife decided she was at war with an immutably white supremacist America.

4/ My wife began to read authors like Nikole Hannah Jones and Michael Harriot. She had a "racial awakening," concluding that she'd been "inauthentically black" all her life.

5/ My wife came to think that her mindtrained in exclusive private schools and in two Ivy League institutions for a BA and a PhDhad been "colonized." She's come to think she owes her success to being "the right kind" of black woman...

6/ ...an inauthentic and "white-acting" black woman who is "non-threatening" to "white spaces." Most disturbing, she's reinterpreted her 5 decades of lifein which she only ever had one very mild story of a microaggressionas a history of brutal, grinding racial oppression.

7/ Deep beneath her inauthentic "white" acculturation is an oppressed black woman, struggling for freedom. This is what racial grievance entrepreneurs like NHJ have done to my wife's mind. What she's doing, in turn, to the minds of our small children makes my blood run cold.

8/ My wife is teaching our children that America hates them and wants to kill them b/c they're black. Rather than take the birth of our childrenambiguous, innocent, raceless little creaturesas an opportunity to rethink the oppressive American race ideology...

9/ ...and not hand it down to a new generation, my wife got "woke" after Trump and doubled down on anti-racist racial essentialism. Here are three hair-raising stories.

10/ First story: she regularly explains to our kids that the police want to kill black people. Blacks are people police like to kill, and always have been. They will keep using the pretext that they get "scared" when unarmed black people reach into cars, like Jacob Blake...

11/ ...or steal police tasers, like Rayshard Brooks, as long as using that pretext allows them to keep killing black people w/ impunity. That's what she told our children, who by plantation logic, are among the black population that the police go out hoping to kill every day.

12/ Second story: she told our kids that Kyle Rittenhouse, like so many whites, hates black people and wants to kill black people, so he went to a BLM protest and opened fire. When I asked, in a neutral way, why she thought Rittenhouse had shot those people, she became upset...

13/ ...and stormed out of the house, not to return for 3 hours. The "obvious" answer is that Rittenhouse is a white supremacist (I don't think she even knows that he shot only white people). Any probing beyond this self-evident axiom is too triggering to indulge.

13a/ (BTW I have no defense of Rittenhouse, a confused, stupid kid, whose foolishness and apparent criminal behavior led to his needless killing of two people.)

14/ Third story: We drove by a poster that said "Ahmaud" w/ a pic of Arbery. Daughter: "Who's that?" Wife: "That's a black man who was killed." My 7-yr-old daughter, now trained to think white people hate and want to kill black people like her, went straight to the inference...

15/ "Oh, so they killed him because they hate black people?"

My daughter needed no further information to infer that a black man who had been killed was killed because "they hate black people."

16/ This is bad enough, but what's worse is that my wife is training her to see herself as one of these universally hated black people, whom everyone wants to kill. Let the implications of that for my girl's soul, for the ease with which she will encounter her world, sink in.

17/ My wife wants her to "inherit the wound," as I've heard @thomaschattwill say, when she should inherit nothing but joy, love, and a sense of her own endless potential in a world that will reward her for her beauty and brilliance, not punish her for "hatred" of her blackness.

18/ Why does my wife want our kids to "inherit the wound"? I suspect it's because, due to her parents' successes, who fought the Civil Rights battles of the '60s and became a surgeon & a teacher, she never inherited the wound herself, and has come to feel "inauthentically black."

19/ After all, NHJ and Coates are always telling her how traumatized she should be just because she's black in America. So, she has come to believe that only when she viscerally feels the wound that all black people are supposed to feel, will she herself be "authentic."

20/ My wife's father told me he's glad his daughter, and Obama too, come from the post-Civil Rights generation, because they did not acquire his "black rage." This is why Obama could be elected, he said, and why race was never important to his daughter, my wife ...till now.

21/ Newly desiring to feel the wound, but not able to authentically experience it due to a life of untroubled privilege, she's living vicariously through her kids, trying to inflict the wound upon them. Maybe if she can't be an authentically wounded black person, they can?

22/ Like a father who pushes his son into sports in which he could not excel himself, she's pushing her children into a racial grievance that she has read about in books and in the NYTimes but has never had a chance to experience for herself.

23/ The only viable alternative to this child abuse that I've seen is in the writing of @thomaschattwill. The alternative my 80-year-old father-in-law offered is as bad as my wife's plan. He said he's happy his grandkids will identify as white, so they will never have to feel...

24/...the sense of inherent worthlessness compared to whites that he felt coming of age in the Jim Crow south. His revelation of his own wound saddened me immeasurably. This proud surgeon's scars bears witness to the country America used to be.

25/ But my father-in-law's solutiona binary solution, and the only one this black man from another era could come up withis as bad as my wife's. I don't want my children to identify as white any more than as black.

26/ I want them to be deeply aware of the complex and difficult, but also often beautiful, histories behind their parental lineages. But I pray they identify into neither blackness nor whiteness, for each of these legacies is heavy, the one with pain and the other with guilt.

27/ I want them to be the generation that at last transcends the limiting and soul-destroying American "skin game." I want them not to identify but to empathize deeply with all the complexities of their heritage, without being limited by the trauma and shame it would impose.

28/ To me, that's how we can at last become simply fellow citizens, simply fellow humans, to one another.

So, I'm in this for the long game, a game in which my wife, with her racial-essentialism agenda, has as yet no real idea that she has an opponent.

29/ I'm committed to mitigating the effects of what I see as her child abuse where I can, until our kids are old enough to read for themselves @thomaschattwill, @cvaldary, ...

30/ ...and other thoughtful writers who come from a place of love and healing of our ancient and needless racial wounds.

The Roman author and former slave Terence said 2000 years ago: "I am human: I suppose nothing human to be alien to me."

Words we have yet to live up to.


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AlexNguyen
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Wow. That seems like a life about to be full of rage and despair for the hubby. That said, I'm not sure that type of mental transformation by his wife could have taken place suddenly in a healthy relationship. You don't just go BSC out of the blue.
Bonfire1996
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Dave Chappelle cancelling his own show, and the subsequent rise of the Daily Show, has killed America's millennial youth.

The satire skit, "When keeping it real goes wrong" would have shown this wife that she is an imbecile. The "racial draft" and "reparations" and many others did more to ease racial tensions than any HR training possible.
Eliminatus
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AlexNguyen said:

Wow. That seems like a life about to be full of rage and despair for the hubby. That said, I'm not sure that type of mental transformation by his wife could have taken place suddenly in a healthy relationship. You don't just go BSC out of the blue.
You ever met a woman before??
captkirk
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I can't imagine writing something like that about my wife on a public forum and expecting to stay married
Tex100
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Shows the power of psychological warfare.
Tex100
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Eliminatus said:

AlexNguyen said:

Wow. That seems like a life about to be full of rage and despair for the hubby. That said, I'm not sure that type of mental transformation by his wife could have taken place suddenly in a healthy relationship. You don't just go BSC out of the blue.
You ever met a woman before??
50ish too, huh?
MemphisAg1
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Quote:

12/ Second story: she told our kids that Kyle Rittenhouse, like so many whites, hates black people and wants to kill black people, so he went to a BLM protest and opened fire. When I asked, in a neutral way, why she thought Rittenhouse had shot those people, she became upset...

13/ ...and stormed out of the house, not to return for 3 hours. The "obvious" answer is that Rittenhouse is a white supremacist (I don't think she even knows that he shot only white people). Any probing beyond this self-evident axiom is too triggering to indulge.
Let's be honest on Rittenhouse. Remains to be seen if he's convicted of criminal behavior. On the surface it appears he was trying to run away from his attackers and acted in self defense. Oh... and those three people he shot were white. So tell me again how this proves he was out to get black people?
AgFormerlyInIrving
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I'm afraid this is FAR from an isolated circumstance.
hbtheduce
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It is terrible that this couple is now in a relationship where they see their partner as an enemy. It's even worse that these kids are being used to draw battle lines. Without a major intervention, now, before this mindset gets further ingrained. I'd consider that marriage over.
JB99
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This is how Marxism destroys countries. It creates a victim class and an oppressor class. In Russia it was about landowners/wealth vs. peasants. The land owners were demonized by the peasants through the marxist rhetoric. This justified the Gulags and murder of millions. On our version, it's white vs. black, but the tactics and rhetoric is the same.
Urban Ag
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1. He needs a good lawyer

2. Latinos and Asians have to be laughing their asses off at white and black people right now
Spotted Ag
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That guy is screwed. He needs to do everything he can to get his kids out now. Good luck being as the justice system basically tells dads to pound sand when they try to get custody of their kids.
AgBQ-00
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JB99 said:

This is how Marxism destroys countries. It creates a victim class and an oppressor class. In Russia it was about landowners/wealth vs. peasants. The land owners were demonized by the peasants through the marxist rhetoric. This justified the Gulags and murder of millions. On our version, it's white vs. black, but the tactics and rhetoric is the same.
This is exactly right
powerbelly
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captkirk said:

I can't imagine writing something like that about my wife on a public forum and expecting to stay married
I can't imagine a black women who is teaching all this to her kids is going to stay married to a white man.
aggiebrad94
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What color were the guys Rittenhouse killed?
AlexNguyen
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Urban Ag said:

1. He needs a good lawyer

2. Latinos and Asians have to be laughing their asses off at white and black people right now
This one is mostly befuddled at what has happened to the country. It is like half the population started eating mushrooms or something.
cisgenderedAggie
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From Broadway to film to real life.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Son_(2019_film)

Playbook
LouisHerbertWong
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1. Immediately file for divorce/sole custody
2. Print that thread/show to judge
3. ???
4. Profit
ABATTBQ11
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captkirk said:

I can't imagine writing something like that about my wife on a public forum and expecting to stay married


I would have already filed divorce papers.
Viper16
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My first thought on that tweet.......pure bullsheet!

My second thought on that tweet........absolutely pure, unadulterated made up bullsheet!
Jmiller
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Identity politics is at 'Full steam ahead' in America. Obama bent to the pressure from the left and used it. Trump launched his political career with it with Birtherism. The man's story is not surprising. Tribalism is part of our nature. It's a tough thing for our species to overcome.
YouBet
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That's a really insightful look into what's happening to seemingly normal people. And scary as hell that we have an entire race of people that are being used as militarized pawns against the majority. And now you have their allies (white leftists) who have been compromised as well.
chevy con queso
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I am so glad I took my mom's advice and married someone with the same values and belief structure.

I can't imagine going through a marriage where we are at odds politically, religiously, or anything else. That has to be a miserable existence for that man. Hopefully his kids grow up and look at things objectively, and make their own choices. That's the best he can probably hope for at this point, because it sounds like his wife is a lost cause. That man marrying her is absolute proof that she's wrong, and she can't even see it.

This reminds me heavily of a former coworker of mine who was mixed race. She was starting down this path, and was having to convince herself that someone was racist to her on occasion. We're talking "microaggressions" at best here. It's all in how you choose to look at it. If you choose for race to be at the forefront of your thoughts, that's all you are going to see.

Now, it's considered racist to be color blind, and I believe that has done more to damage race relations than any other viewpoint. It means there is no solution to overcoming our differences.
YouBet
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Jmiller said:

Identity politics is at 'Full steam ahead' in America. Obama bent to the pressure from the left and used it. Trump launched his political career with it with Birtherism. The man's story is not surprising. Tribalism is part of our nature. It's a tough thing for our species to overcome.
Hillary Clinton is genesis for this.
Texaggie7nine
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Viper16 said:



My first thought on that tweet.......pure bullsheet!

My second thought on that tweet........absolutely pure, unadulterated made up bullsheet!
If it is, the guy is a master at the long con. I've been following him for awhile. He doesn't always mention his wife but he has been pretty consistent about the story as it has progressed over the past few months.
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Decay
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Also notice how she's already shifted some of the expectations in him.

Rittenhouse, in his eyes, is indefensible. He's so desperate to be levelheaded and fair to his wife that he's being pulled down by her undermining despite his full knowledge of her actions.

Regardless of "why Kyle was there", he was literally running away from each person before firing on them. That is clearly attempting to remove himself from the situation and regardless of what happened before, chasing him makes you the aggressor.

That's why, unless you're a cop or they're running away with your property, you don't shoot people who are fleeing. You're no longer allowed self-defense if they run. Same goes for the guys who attacked Rittenhouse.

It's a simple, straightforward defense. Kyle had a right to safety and exercised it - he ran away until he couldn't anymore.

This man and his wife could discuss this and come to that conclusion as well. But Marxism requires Rightful Anger. Much like Marxism requires all conservative emotion to be Impotent White Rage (aka it's not legitimate). She's lost in the sauce, baby.
Jmiller
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YouBet said:

Jmiller said:

Identity politics is at 'Full steam ahead' in America. Obama bent to the pressure from the left and used it. Trump launched his political career with it with Birtherism. The man's story is not surprising. Tribalism is part of our nature. It's a tough thing for our species to overcome.
Hillary Clinton is genesis for this.


Sorry, but the accusation was around before her 2008 run and she did not use it Nor does it change the fact that Trump promoted it for years, all the way up till a month? before the 2016 election.
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captkirk said:

I can't imagine writing something like that about my wife on a public forum and expecting to stay married
First thing I thought of.

Even if he's dead on, and there's got to be some hyperbole involved, though I suspect he's correct, I'd be surprised if that marriage last much longer, unless she stops watching and listening to the news for a month.
YouBet
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Jmiller said:

YouBet said:

Jmiller said:

Identity politics is at 'Full steam ahead' in America. Obama bent to the pressure from the left and used it. Trump launched his political career with it with Birtherism. The man's story is not surprising. Tribalism is part of our nature. It's a tough thing for our species to overcome.
Hillary Clinton is genesis for this.


Sorry, but the accusation was around before her 2008 run and she did not use it Nor does it change the fact that Trump promoted it for years, all the way up till a month? before the 2016 election.
Her campaign and supporters did.
Jmiller
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YouBet said:

Jmiller said:

YouBet said:

Jmiller said:

Identity politics is at 'Full steam ahead' in America. Obama bent to the pressure from the left and used it. Trump launched his political career with it with Birtherism. The man's story is not surprising. Tribalism is part of our nature. It's a tough thing for our species to overcome.
Hillary Clinton is genesis for this.


Sorry, but the accusation was around before her 2008 run and she did not use it Nor does it change the fact that Trump promoted it for years, all the way up till a month? before the 2016 election.
Her campaign and supporters did.


Not really. White identity politics doesnt play well on the left, go figure.
Texaggie7nine
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fasthorse05 said:

captkirk said:

I can't imagine writing something like that about my wife on a public forum and expecting to stay married
First thing I thought of.

Even if he's dead on, and there's got to be some hyperbole involved, though I suspect he's correct, I'd be surprised if that marriage last much longer, unless she stops watching and listening to the news for a month.
Public but anonymous.
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chevy con queso said:

I am so glad I took my mom's advice and married someone with the same values and belief structure.

I can't imagine going through a marriage where we are at odds politically, religiously, or anything else. That has to be a miserable existence for that man. Hopefully his kids grow up and look at things objectively, and make their own choices. That's the best he can probably hope for at this point, because it sounds like his wife is a lost cause. That man marrying her is absolute proof that she's wrong, and she can't even see it.

This reminds me heavily of a former coworker of mine who was mixed race. She was starting down this path, and was having to convince herself that someone was racist to her on occasion. We're talking "microaggressions" at best here. It's all in how you choose to look at it. If you choose for race to be at the forefront of your thoughts, that's all you are going to see.

Now, it's considered racist to be color blind, and I believe that has done more to damage race relations than any other viewpoint. It means there is no solution to overcoming our differences.
The scary thing is, I think this guy DID marry someone who shared his values and beliefs. Then she changed them.
Urban Ag
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I think this guy knows full well that he's f'd and his 31 point diatribe was basically a roadmap he's leaving behind so family, friends, and the authorities already understand when he bails or turns up missing.
iluvpoker
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This story goes back to my question on how do you determine how much of what you read is real vs fake news?
 
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