Oh weird, seems to work differently for some people.

That's a nice small clip. Context matters.

That was posted yesterday. It is awful and no one will defend it. What is your point OP?

Did I hear get down and then he did not comply?

Either way the officers probably should 1. Be more clear in their instructions 2. Learn a better method than teeb kick to the butt.

How can you justify the first one in any way, guy was cooperating and walker texas ranger ****** cop kicks him in the back

What happened before the videos?

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How can you justify the first one in any way, guy was cooperating and walker texas ranger ****** cop kicks him in the back

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I'm not justifying it. I'm saying, what is the whole story and what happened before that.

Here's a good reason why "assault" against officers should be revisited.

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. Look! We found one!

I'll play the odds of NOT being shot while complying with not being shot while being stupid any day.

Well, in cases of submission it's A LOT easier to convict the cops.

You can take the 1/1000000 chance of getting stomped when complying or the 1/1 chance of getting shot when resisting.

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Wasn't there already a thread and discussion about this yesterday?

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Here's a good reason why "assault" against officers should be revisited.

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He did not comply

Need more video on both instances. Not 18 second clips...

WaltonAg18 said:

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So you think it's generally a good idea to attack police officers? Are you from Texas? Did you have parents?

Now post the videos of where people comply and nothing escalates.

Nobody got shot. If athletes really cared, they would all cut PSAs imploring young men not to fight police or resist. That would end 90% of police killings. Problem solved.

you don't know if he was cooperating.

The response in the first clip shop have been applied to the guy in the 2nd clip and both would be ok with me.

The dude in San Antonio is resisting. If he is not the right person, that will get sorted out in court.

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Now post the videos of where people comply and nothing escalates.

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Millions of times that had happened. Literally.

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OK lib, now show a couple of the tens of thousands of examples where the individual complied with the police and no one got tazed or shot.

Leftists love to focus on the exception rather than the rule, aka reality.

So you think it's generally ok for cops to profile people ?

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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Now post the videos of where people comply and nothing escalates.

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Millions of times that had happened. Literally.

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So you think it's generally ok for cops to profile people ? Boot locker much ?

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I profiled people and it works exceptionally well. Random stops without profiling is a waste of time and effort.

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When there is an investigation and you are being questioned, you have to provide identification. If you resist then the door is open to repercussions.

Not
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OP, have you ever seen the Daniel Shaver video? White guy mowed down by a pos cop with an AR15 in hallway of hotel while following orders. Cop was even acquitted and I believe his pension was reinstated?

That being said...no one ever said we can't go digging through hundreds of thousands of police interactions for rare and extreme exceptions.

You're not making any sort of point. These cases are statistically insignificant and cops still pose virtually ZERO threat to any person of any race.

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Then go after those cops hard.

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WaltonAg18 said:

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When there is an investigation and you are being questioned, you have to provide identification. If you resist then the door is open to repercussions.

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What was he being detained for?

What crime was suspected of being committed?

Was it a stop and identify state?

What reason do you have to give up private, personal information when you have nothing to do with the situation?

Yep, focusing on the extreme exceptions (i.e. "OMG but what about life of the mother?!" in the abortion debate). It's a classic propaganda technique.

Liberals are dishonest as all get out. All of them. Deceit is a major pillar of their faith.

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OP, have you ever seen the Daniel Shaver video? White guy mowed down by a pos cop with an AR15 in hallway of hotel while following orders. Cop was even acquitted and I believe his pension was reinstated?

That being said...no one ever said we can't go digging through hundreds of thousands of police interactions for rare and extreme exceptions.

You're not making any sort of point. These cases are statistically insignificant and cops still pose virtually ZERO threat to any person of any race.

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I was on that thread, with people like The_Fox moving the goalposts, constantly defending the indefensible "for the greater good".

The TC Jester said:

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OP, have you ever seen the Daniel Shaver video? White guy mowed down by a pos cop with an AR15 in hallway of hotel while following orders. Cop was even acquitted and I believe his pension was reinstated?

That being said...no one ever said we can't go digging through hundreds of thousands of police interactions for rare and extreme exceptions.

You're not making any sort of point. These cases are statistically insignificant and cops still pose virtually ZERO threat to any person of any race.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-officer-who-fatally-shot-sobbing-man-temporarily-rehired-apply-n1028981

Yes.. The cop had "You're ****ed" on the butt of his rifle and was able to keep that out of his criminal case.

Someone who goes to hell and back for cops, feds etc....

Also

Can I just say that I wish you Libs would learn something here about WHY it's so important to limit the amount of power that government is given because human beings are still imperfect creatures

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Now post the videos of where people comply and nothing escalates.

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Millions of times that had happened. Literally.

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If you comply you survive. 99.999% of the time. If you are mistreated you sue and get your day in court ala Rodney King.

I will take being Rodney King over dead all day every day.

Also, one bad example versus a million good examples does not mean that the majority of cops are bad. It does not mean there is a systemic problem.

Systemic by definition means the problems are rampant. 1/300,000 is not systemic. 1/100,000 is not systemic. 1/50,000 is not a systemic problem.

You need to learn basic definitions.

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Someone who goes to hell and back for cops, feds etc....

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Ok. Who does that?