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fooz said:

Is Anatole open? I may take her there for her bday. We have other plans next week, but if it's that vacant I may have to surprise her with dinner and hotel tonight.


You should! It's amazing.
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The Bensons.
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Eliminatus said:

The disaster is already here. And yes, I do firmly believe that there are groups of Americans right now that not only want this to happen, but actively pursue plans and messages to encourage it.


The group is called the FED.

The economic pain is the hangover from 2008 and decades of zero interest rates finally kicking in. Money printing was never the answer.

Even w Stimulus 2.0, it will only buy a few months of relief, they'll have to pass another $2 Trillion at the end of the year to keep this thing afloat.

Brrrrrrrrr goes the digital printing press........until confidence is lost.
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Sweden was right. It's too late to prevent an economic collapse, but the sooner we end this health theater, the sooner we can begin a slow trudge toward recovery.

Hopefully we've learned our lesson. I don't mean our elected officials or our woefully unsound public health officials. I mean us, the people. Maybe next time we won't gleefully abandon our rights, our livelihoods, and our way of life at the first sign of trouble. Hopefully we'll actually get a second chance to get it right.
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We started the drive from Houston to Smokey Mountains yesterday. Dinner in downtown Tuscaloosa, Everywhere was packed. Spending the night in Birmingham at a hotel downtown. Went up to the bar on the roof, packed. Wow, all I can say is people in Alabama dgaf about covid.
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I can't say what should happen to Clay Jenkins. Dude has a special place in hell waiting for him.
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Well of course we are being played. Even the liberals on here know it but they have to be good soldiers and go along with it because they've been told that destroying the economy is the only way they can get Trump out. If it wasn't an election year, we would still have covid but it would be handled like every year with a bad flu. I wonder if the Democrats will think this was worth it when this is over.
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Went down to do some maintenance on a fishing cabin I've had for 20 years in Seadrift/POC. You'd never know any impending financial doom was upon us by what I was seeing. New boat after new boat after new boat, everywhere. The smallest flats/bay boat (most just a few months old) was 21' and most every other were 24' long $75-100k rigs. Shiny and new. The manufacturers (I know one) are backlogged for months on sold orders, no spec builds in sight.

Not disagreeing on the impending doom, but what gives? People are lining up to sign on huge boat loans, bay houses, travel trailers, RVs, and second homes in the hill country etc., and these are not retirees by any means. Smiling like no tomorrow.

I understand that there is little travel and little to do right now and that is some of it.
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The rural communities are back at full force. Kerrville and Fredericksburg are going nuts. Real Estate is on fire.

Get out of the urban areas, stat.
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Tormentos said:

What is crazy to me....I'm over in Singapore having a staycation this weekend at Marina Bay Sands. The hotel and restaurants are packed. There is a strong push here to get peoples livelihoods back and get the economy moving. The striking differences between here and seeing pictures like this is asinine....the whole Covid situation has become overly politicised in the US.
Singapore is close to the model needed to get out of this, quasi right military rule and discipline with an emphasis on enabling commerce.
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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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Old Sarge said:

Went down to do some maintenance on a fishing cabin I've had for 20 years in Seadrift/POC. You'd never know any impending financial doom was upon us by what I was seeing. New boat after new boat after new boat, everywhere. The smallest flats/bay boat (most just a few months old) was 21' and most every other were 24' long $75-100k rigs. Shiny and new. The manufacturers (I know one) are backlogged for months on sold orders, no spec builds in sight.

Not disagreeing on the impending doom, but what gives? People are lining up to sign on huge boat loans, bay houses, travel trailers, RVs, and second homes in the hill country etc., and these are not retirees by any means. Smiling like no tomorrow.

I understand that there is little travel and little to do right now and that is some of it.


That's the weirdest thing in all this. Certain sectors have had records. It's very complicated for anyone to predict what's going to happen. But seeing certain sectors about to go completely broke it's hard not to imagine a national crisis.

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AGHouston11 said:

Old Sarge said:

Went down to do some maintenance on a fishing cabin I've had for 20 years in Seadrift/POC. You'd never know any impending financial doom was upon us by what I was seeing. New boat after new boat after new boat, everywhere. The smallest flats/bay boat (most just a few months old) was 21' and most every other were 24' long $75-100k rigs. Shiny and new. The manufacturers (I know one) are backlogged for months on sold orders, no spec builds in sight.

Not disagreeing on the impending doom, but what gives? People are lining up to sign on huge boat loans, bay houses, travel trailers, RVs, and second homes in the hill country etc., and these are not retirees by any means. Smiling like no tomorrow.

I understand that there is little travel and little to do right now and that is some of it.


That's the weirdest thing in all this. Certain sectors have had records. It's very complicated for anyone to predict what's going to happen. But seeing certain sectors about to go completely broke it's hard not to imagine a national crisis.


It could go either way. The key to remember is something the elite press and Democrat party wreckers don't really get--- its not their money that keeps things going, but the consumer and buying power of the middle and upper middle class. If too many are out of work, purchases of things will start dropping steeply. Even sectors in demand may have a problem with not enough left with good buying power. Especially if they repeat any of the nonsense of late winter/spring.
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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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What a shame. I presented a paper at a conference there last year. Very nice hotel. Supposedly one of the biggest in the state.
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The socialist takeover is here, and half of the US population does not realize it or are too near-sighted to see it.

Here in TX we think we're safe, but look at Austin, Dallas, Houston, SA, El Paso, etc ... cities are growing and it isn't with moderates or conservatives.

Time to buckle up.
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Quote:

If only the Media could be shut down...
I'm not sure what's worse - the 24/7 news cycle, social media... or both?
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zephyr88 said:

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If only the Media could be shut down...
I'm not sure what's worse - the 24/7 news cycle, social media... or both?
The former -- because supposedly `adults' with `standing'. And the latter would have less a source for anything other than their own gossip without the former. Certainly no stature.
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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
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Pantera said:

The socialist takeover is here, and half of the US population does not realize it or are too near-sighted to see it.

Here in TX we think we're safe, but look at Austin, Dallas, Houston, SA, El Paso, etc ... cities are growing and it isn't with moderates or conservatives.

Time to buckle up.
The problem is that half of the population wants it and welcomes it.
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numetalbizkitaggie said:

Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
As someone who lives here I can certainly understand this sentiment. However, I'm routinely surprised when we are traveling outside of Texas how many people light up when you tell them you are from Dallas. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "You're from Dallas!? That is one of my favorite cities in the world. I love to visit Dallas!"

I don't undersell or bag on Dallas like most around here do but I am always a little baffled by this.
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I travel for work a lot (am right now on East coast of FL....hurricane warnings and all) and most places (hotels, restaurants and stores other than big box stores) are like this.

"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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To a point, Dallas would be up there on the list of cities to travel to, definitely more so than Houston, but there's probably something to them not traveling to it, despite telling you it's on their list. I really don't mean anything disparaging or rude by this, but if I was presented with a list of Durango, Destin, and DFW, it'd be the third choice on that list. Nobody would compare those three on a list, of course.
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numetalbizkitaggie said:

To a point, Dallas would be up there on the list of cities to travel to, definitely more so than Houston, but there's probably something to them not traveling to it, despite telling you it's on their list. I really don't mean anything disparaging or rude by this, but if I was presented with a list of Durango, Destin, and DFW, it'd be the third choice on that list. Nobody would compare those three on a list, of course.
Well, of course. Same here.

I'm just saying people get excited about it to the point that I think I'm being punked. Happens frequently though.
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YouBet said:

numetalbizkitaggie said:

Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
As someone who lives here I can certainly understand this sentiment. However, I'm routinely surprised when we are traveling outside of Texas how many people light up when you tell them you are from Dallas. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "You're from Dallas!? That is one of my favorite cities in the world. I love to visit Dallas!"

I don't undersell or bag on Dallas like most around here do but I am always a little baffled by this.
Agree. Really Dallas' worst feature has always been only City Hall. Its excessive tilt into Democratic Leftism of late is the only reason it can be said to be trending down fast now. And some of the mystique was the Cowboys, for sure. I/T hub, even an important and underestimated section of the entertainment industry and even filming takes place.

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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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Old Sarge said:

Went down to do some maintenance on a fishing cabin I've had for 20 years in Seadrift/POC. You'd never know any impending financial doom was upon us by what I was seeing. New boat after new boat after new boat, everywhere. The smallest flats/bay boat (most just a few months old) was 21' and most every other were 24' long $75-100k rigs. Shiny and new. The manufacturers (I know one) are backlogged for months on sold orders, no spec builds in sight.

Not disagreeing on the impending doom, but what gives? People are lining up to sign on huge boat loans, bay houses, travel trailers, RVs, and second homes in the hill country etc., and these are not retirees by any means. Smiling like no tomorrow.

I understand that there is little travel and little to do right now and that is some of it.
BTW, when you go down there next and this **** is over, stop off in Long Mott at the Rusty Hook Winery. Owner is an Ag and she's my GF's best friend.

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YouBet said:

numetalbizkitaggie said:

Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
As someone who lives here I can certainly understand this sentiment. However, I'm routinely surprised when we are traveling outside of Texas how many people light up when you tell them you are from Dallas. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "You're from Dallas!? That is one of my favorite cities in the world. I love to visit Dallas!"

I don't undersell or bag on Dallas like most around here do but I am always a little baffled by this.
I lived in DFW for almost 30 years...19 of them in Weatherford.

I avoided Dallas like the plague. Never really liked the city. Ft Worth was much more my vibe if I ever had to go into the big city.
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titan said:

YouBet said:

numetalbizkitaggie said:

Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
As someone who lives here I can certainly understand this sentiment. However, I'm routinely surprised when we are traveling outside of Texas how many people light up when you tell them you are from Dallas. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "You're from Dallas!? That is one of my favorite cities in the world. I love to visit Dallas!"

I don't undersell or bag on Dallas like most around here do but I am always a little baffled by this.
Agree. Really Dallas' worst feature has always been only City Hall. Its excessive tilt into Democratic Leftism of late is the only reason it can be said to be trending down fast now. And some of the mystique was the Cowboys, for sure. I/T hub, even an important and underestimated section of the entertainment industry and even filming takes place.


It's certainly going the way of other large cities on the leftist decline. Our police situation was gold standard for ineptness and degradation before the current defund trend took off in some other locales. It's still a mess here though with our totally incompetent Police Chief, DA, and City Council.

I'm not sure if this was deliberate but your tilt comment on city hall was a nice double meaning considering it's architecture style.
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Ag with kids said:

YouBet said:

numetalbizkitaggie said:

Not quite sure how to say this, but DFW wouldn't be on my list of places to travel to for leisure. Not that there isn't a 33% GDP impact, because there is, but possibly, just maybe, DFW isn't a vacationing hot spot either.

Kinda like Houston bragging about being top 25 in travel...Most are traveling there for work.
As someone who lives here I can certainly understand this sentiment. However, I'm routinely surprised when we are traveling outside of Texas how many people light up when you tell them you are from Dallas. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "You're from Dallas!? That is one of my favorite cities in the world. I love to visit Dallas!"

I don't undersell or bag on Dallas like most around here do but I am always a little baffled by this.
I lived in DFW for almost 30 years...19 of them in Weatherford.

I avoided Dallas like the plague. Never really liked the city. Ft Worth was much more my vibe if I ever had to go into the big city.
I keep bleeding all over the site about it, but I'm trying to get us to consider moving out. Wife isn't quite there yet and we do have a level of golden handcuffs with her right now. Of course, if we fully destroy the economy as we seem to want to do that might go away.
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BigRobSA said:

I travel for work a lot (am right now on East coast of FL....hurricane warnings and all) and most places (hotels, restaurants and stores other than big box stores) are like this.



Yeah, it's not just a Dallas problem. Hotels are going to be destroyed once the free money runs out. This hoax has been devastating. But to see this at a huge hotel like this is amazing.
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FriscoKid said:

BigRobSA said:

I travel for work a lot (am right now on East coast of FL....hurricane warnings and all) and most places (hotels, restaurants and stores other than big box stores) are like this.



Yeah, it's not just a Dallas problem. Hotels are going to be destroyed once the free money runs out. This hoax has been devastating. But to see this at a huge hotel like this is amazing.
The layoffs just between hotels and airlines is/will be unreal.
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FriscoKid said:

BigRobSA said:

I travel for work a lot (am right now on East coast of FL....hurricane warnings and all) and most places (hotels, restaurants and stores other than big box stores) are like this.



Yeah, it's not just a Dallas problem. Hotels are going to be destroyed once the free money runs out. This hoax has been devastating. But to see this at a huge hotel like this is amazing.
Yes. Its one reason so resent the MSM being so untouched by it and advocating it be doubled-down on.
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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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I have a hard time reading the other forum. While there is SOME good information, it is littered with folks that I have lost complete respect for. We are being lied to. Yes there is a virus and yes it is deadly in some cases, but the data is being shaped to fit a narrative.
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FriscoKid said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Economy is about to hit hard. We aren't looking at reality. All we see is distraction 24/7.
33% decrease in GDP? Na, we are fine.
Dear God...so, that is with government spending trillions to keep the economy afloat?
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TTUArmy said:

FriscoKid said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Economy is about to hit hard. We aren't looking at reality. All we see is distraction 24/7.
33% decrease in GDP? Na, we are fine.
Dear God...so, that is with government spending trillions to keep the economy afloat?
Totally alarming. Especially since no `WW II' could fix it now either. We saw with 9/11 that the center is too rotted out. So there is no way out of one if it happens. That is why it is essential to ignore the losses--- and reopen. Stop "dashboarding" cases especially. Cases don't matter. Only the degree of being ill does.
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Lina have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused.
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Tanya 93 said:

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CoMo is a 'Tine suburb>?!
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