China Rivers Flooding ...... 3 Gorges Dam could fail ?

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nortex97 said:

Screw CCP but I am certainly praying this doesn't happen.


I agree, hope their people come out ok.. their leaders not so much
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fasthorse05 said:

Mostly Sunny Disposition said:

Good. **** China
In my younger days, your comment was my exact thoughts.

Now, if the flood could hit the party headquarters and wipe out the politburo, bring it on. However, like many benighted and ignorant souls of a dictatorship, it's likely 80% of the 1.4 billion folks in China are great people who just want to take care of their families and live a life.

So in my old age, I'm conflicted. However, anything that's bad for China can't be too bad for us.


That's because your testosterone levels are a fraction of what they used to be. 99.9 percent of Chinese people would cheer the death of millions of Americans. If a nation does not oppose its government it is complicit in its actions.
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You think China would be being a little bit nicer to everybody considering only several hundred feet of Chinese made concrete separate it from death, famine and destruction.
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locovaquero said:

fasthorse05 said:

Mostly Sunny Disposition said:

Good. **** China
In my younger days, your comment was my exact thoughts.

Now, if the flood could hit the party headquarters and wipe out the politburo, bring it on. However, like many benighted and ignorant souls of a dictatorship, it's likely 80% of the 1.4 billion folks in China are great people who just want to take care of their families and live a life.

So in my old age, I'm conflicted. However, anything that's bad for China can't be too bad for us.


That's because your testosterone levels are a fraction of what they used to be. 99.9 percent of Chinese people would cheer the death of millions of Americans. If a nation does not oppose its government it is complicit in its actions.


I've spent much time in China over the years. This statement is completely false. And I am no fan of China and the CCP. If 99.9% of CCP members disappeared tomorrow the world would be a better place.
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My sentiments also. Well said.
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The history of the Chinese since Mao means they really don't care. Mao's famine killed how many millions?

A damn failure won't move the needle for Chinese citizens. Now matter how die.
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locovaquero said:

fasthorse05 said:

Mostly Sunny Disposition said:

Good. **** China
In my younger days, your comment was my exact thoughts.

Now, if the flood could hit the party headquarters and wipe out the politburo, bring it on. However, like many benighted and ignorant souls of a dictatorship, it's likely 80% of the 1.4 billion folks in China are great people who just want to take care of their families and live a life.

So in my old age, I'm conflicted. However, anything that's bad for China can't be too bad for us.


That's because your testosterone levels are a fraction of what they used to be. 99.9 percent of Chinese people would cheer the death of millions of Americans. If a nation does not oppose its government it is complicit in its actions.
Way too harsh. Even here few are willing to do that because fairly certain will end up prison or worse, and that is here where the odds of being summarily shot and disposed of are far less.

Like pointed out above, even non-Communist leaders have been brutal to the Chinese. They are more like the Russians in that the experience of ever having an even benign government let alone a good one is almost unknown.
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Could be.

I think that's why we're supposed to work for 30 or 40 years to replace the testosterone with money.
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In a rare revelation, Beijing has admitted that its 2.4-kilometer Three Gorges Dam spanning the Yangtze River in Hubei province "deformed slightly" after record flooding.

The official Xinhua News Agency quoted the operator of the the world's largest hydroelectric gravity dam as saying that some nonstructural, peripheral parts of the dam had buckled.

The deformation occurred last Saturday when the flood from western provinces including Sichuan and Chongqing along the upper reaches of the Yangtze River peaked at a record-setting 61,000 cubic meters per second, according to China Three Gorges Corporation, a state-owned enterprise that manages the dam and the sprawling power plant underneath it.

The company noted that parts of the dam had "deformed slightly," displacing some external structures, and seepage into the main outlet walls had also been reported throughout the 18 hours on Saturday and Sunday when water was discharged though its outlets.



Get ready now because later is too late.
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rab79 said:

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In a rare revelation, Beijing has admitted that its 2.4-kilometer Three Gorges Dam spanning the Yangtze River in Hubei province "deformed slightly" after record flooding.

The official Xinhua News Agency quoted the operator of the the world's largest hydroelectric gravity dam as saying that some nonstructural, peripheral parts of the dam had buckled.

The deformation occurred last Saturday when the flood from western provinces including Sichuan and Chongqing along the upper reaches of the Yangtze River peaked at a record-setting 61,000 cubic meters per second, according to China Three Gorges Corporation, a state-owned enterprise that manages the dam and the sprawling power plant underneath it.

The company noted that parts of the dam had "deformed slightly," displacing some external structures, and seepage into the main outlet walls had also been reported throughout the 18 hours on Saturday and Sunday when water was discharged though its outlets.



Get ready now because later is too late.


How does record flooding "slightly deform" a "non-structural" part of a dam? Seems to me that if it can be affected by water flow and it's a part of a dam then it is a part of the structure. This statement doesn't ease any of my concerns or am I just reading this with incorrect assumptions?
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agent-maroon said:




How does record flooding "slightly deform" a "non-structural" part of a dam? Seems to me that if it can be affected by water flow and it's a part of a dam then it is a part of the structure. This statement doesn't ease any of my concerns or am I just reading this with incorrect assumptions?
It's ccp speak so filter it through logic and what do you get?
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some interesting stuff about the dam and other things chinese at this link


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/china-three-gorges-dam-collapse/
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rab79 said:

some interesting stuff about the dam and other things chinese at this link


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/china-three-gorges-dam-collapse/


Little far fetched what that Arthur wrote .. but kind of spooky that a lot of this stuff is coming true ..

If that dam breaks who knows how many will die and what it will do for the worlds economies .. crazy crazy stuff
Going on ... it's almost as if people are somehow predicting the future ... just too spooky to see/ predict something of this magnitude
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agent-maroon said:

rab79 said:

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In a rare revelation, Beijing has admitted that its 2.4-kilometer Three Gorges Dam spanning the Yangtze River in Hubei province "deformed slightly" after record flooding.

The official Xinhua News Agency quoted the operator of the the world's largest hydroelectric gravity dam as saying that some nonstructural, peripheral parts of the dam had buckled.

The deformation occurred last Saturday when the flood from western provinces including Sichuan and Chongqing along the upper reaches of the Yangtze River peaked at a record-setting 61,000 cubic meters per second, according to China Three Gorges Corporation, a state-owned enterprise that manages the dam and the sprawling power plant underneath it.

The company noted that parts of the dam had "deformed slightly," displacing some external structures, and seepage into the main outlet walls had also been reported throughout the 18 hours on Saturday and Sunday when water was discharged though its outlets.



Get ready now because later is too late.


How does record flooding "slightly deform" a "non-structural" part of a dam? Seems to me that if it can be affected by water flow and it's a part of a dam then it is a part of the structure. This statement doesn't ease any of my concerns or am I just reading this with incorrect assumptions?


Non-structural in this case likely means it doesn't affect the dam's strength (for holding back the water level). The damage/distortion may have been to a cosmetic feature or to something that directs water flow.
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Somewhat concerning seeing that these are the same folks that said Covid wasn't transmitting human to human.
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So do I need more ammo or TP?
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Yes!
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locovaquero said:

fasthorse05 said:

Mostly Sunny Disposition said:

Good. **** China
In my younger days, your comment was my exact thoughts.

Now, if the flood could hit the party headquarters and wipe out the politburo, bring it on. However, like many benighted and ignorant souls of a dictatorship, it's likely 80% of the 1.4 billion folks in China are great people who just want to take care of their families and live a life.

So in my old age, I'm conflicted. However, anything that's bad for China can't be too bad for us.


That's because your testosterone levels are a fraction of what they used to be. 99.9 percent of Chinese people would cheer the death of millions of Americans. If a nation does not oppose its government it is complicit in its actions.


Completely untrue. China is not monolithic. Even if it was there's Hong Kong, Tibet, the Uighur, etc.

I imagine the number who would cheer the death of millions of Americans is not dissimilar from the number here who would do likewise for them, and that that number is inflated by government propaganda used to focus on an external enemy.
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I just got no idea what they will do other than be prepared for hardcore cannibalism and other mayhem at least in China.
Our first prediction of zombie apocalypse for 2020. That would really cap the year off.
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After the dam collapses, there's going to be a wave of support from the world to help China.

United States should NOT give them one red cent.
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zephyr88 said:

After the dam collapses, there's going to be a wave of support from the world to help China.

United States should NOT give them one red cent.
We could offer them some of our communist/Marxist rioters, since they are dying to get out of America and live under communism anyway.
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aggiehawg said:

Are we really sure 400 million people would be affected? Just thinking about all of the stories about construction of ghost towns in China.
Yangtze River has been the core transportation, settlement and a principle agricultural area for China for Centuries. It was always subject to flooding when it would rain. The people who were moved -- whether at gunpoint or not -- during Construction, were just "right there" by the dam site, and behind it.

I have seen estimates of 300MM to 400MM people, should it fail, and those will all be downstream...lots of people, lots of industry and lots of agricultural products.

The irony will be, as one post on this threaqd emphasized, is China trying to buy up more than boatloads of food...and water too. What is the gauge of willingness of countries with food to supply CCP with much of their crop, after China has inflicted COVID on the world. And, if other countries are uncooperative, does China take military steps to "encourage" neighbors to part with precious food supplies?

And you can bet much of our drug/medicine supplies (80%+/-??) are -- oh, wait -- manufactured in plants along the Yangtze...can you see the issue here?

China CCP has little regard for human life...100 MM casualties will not hurt them, but it can certainly play to media stories by bleeding heart liberals.

Honestly, it could bring down the Chinese government, economy, the people and the current base of manufacturing much of our goods. I don't know who to cheer for, but it could really pinch Americans...hard. And, of course...

IT'S ALL TRUMP'S FAULT!!! Amiright?
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Short-term I guess this could be catastrophic for us on the pharma front, but long-term it would be incredible for this country to cut them totally loose. Would be worth the pain now.

I'm not sure I realized until somewhat recently how much of our pharma base is manufactured there. The fact that we are that dependent on one of the most oppressive, de-humanizing countries on the planet for life-sustaining medicine is a catastrophic failure by this nation to protect it's citizens.

Surely to god we are doing something about that right now even if it's not making the news.
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YouBet said:

Short-term I guess this could be catastrophic for us on the pharma front, but long-term it would be incredible for this country to cut them totally loose. Would be worth the pain now.

I'm not sure I realized until somewhat recently how much of our pharma base is manufactured there. The fact that we are that dependent on one of the most oppressive, de-humanizing countries on the planet for life-sustaining medicine is a catastrophic failure by this nation to protect it's citizens.

Surely to god we are doing something about that right now even if it's not making the news.
I think when Trump was having US companies converting to ramp up PPE, and other equipment, not to mention making deals with the pharmaceutical companies for vaccine and other drug production that issue was likely addressed as well.
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aggiehawg said:

YouBet said:

Short-term I guess this could be catastrophic for us on the pharma front, but long-term it would be incredible for this country to cut them totally loose. Would be worth the pain now.

I'm not sure I realized until somewhat recently how much of our pharma base is manufactured there. The fact that we are that dependent on one of the most oppressive, de-humanizing countries on the planet for life-sustaining medicine is a catastrophic failure by this nation to protect it's citizens.

Surely to god we are doing something about that right now even if it's not making the news.
I think when Trump was having US companies converting to ramp up PPE, and other equipment, not to mention making deals with the pharmaceutical companies for vaccine and other drug production that issue was likely addressed as well.
Well, I hope so. If this is being corrected it would be one of the greatest things he's done as President even if he will never get credit for it.
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YouBet said:

good nuggets said:


That seems bad.


Wuhan flooded with 7 meters of water, welcome to corona 2.0.
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YouBet said:

aggiehawg said:

YouBet said:

Short-term I guess this could be catastrophic for us on the pharma front, but long-term it would be incredible for this country to cut them totally loose. Would be worth the pain now.

I'm not sure I realized until somewhat recently how much of our pharma base is manufactured there. The fact that we are that dependent on one of the most oppressive, de-humanizing countries on the planet for life-sustaining medicine is a catastrophic failure by this nation to protect it's citizens.

Surely to god we are doing something about that right now even if it's not making the news.
I think when Trump was having US companies converting to ramp up PPE, and other equipment, not to mention making deals with the pharmaceutical companies for vaccine and other drug production that issue was likely addressed as well.
Well, I hope so. If this is being corrected it would be one of the greatest things he's done as President even if he will never get credit for it.
Trump is not modest. He will take credit for it...even if Anderson Cooper criticizes Trump for holding a hand over his head.

The problem is even though we have the facilities here, the big pharma firms who feed from that trough are reluctant to let go of the "profits" they are making off Insurance policies with Drug Plans. He needs to whack off some genitals of a few CEO's to "speed up" the process, but so far he has been a gentleman and a good Federalist.

When (if) 3GD fails, there will be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Not to mention that there are STILL (read: STUPIDLY) some of these big firms who have left funds in banks controlled by CCP...do you think for even ONE MOMENT the CCP will graciously allow these companies to repatriate profits sitting in their banks?

I think not...wailing and gnashing ot teeth, indeed. China will need those funds to pay the exorbitante premium for foodstuffs that angry countries will charge for their own precious food supplies.
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scottimus said:

So do I need more ammo or TP?
Insert "Why not both?" Chinese girl here.
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Are the chances high it will bust?
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Win At Life said:

scottimus said:

So do I need more ammo or TP?
Insert "Why not both?" Chinese girl here.
I think she's Korean. Oh hell, I can't tell.
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AgsMnn said:

Are the chances high it will bust?
No telling. Thats the thing with anything chinese. Everything they say is false, if if you cant figure out why they'd be lying.

Everything they do is corrupted, so there is no telling what defects or shortcomings may be in play. My gut tells me it is unlikely, but who the hell knows.
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Rydyn said:

Win At Life said:

scottimus said:

So do I need more ammo or TP?
Insert "Why not both?" Chinese girl here.
I think she's Korean. Oh hell, I can't tell.
why not both?
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good nuggets said:




So...basically a cover-up of the Wuhan virus conspiracy!
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From National Review:

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It would be a black swan of epic proportions, China's Chernobyl moment. A tsunami-like wave from a breach in the Three Gorges Dam could wipe out millions of acres of farmland right before the autumn harvest, possibly leading to famine-like conditions. As it is also the world's largest hydroelectric power station, a failure would lead to huge power outages. Low-lying cities of millions along the Yangtze's banks cities could become uninhabitable and the death toll could be staggering.
 
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