How did those other sources get the information? Was this conjecture but unverified?

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He is not trailing Biden in nearly every battle ground state and down 14 pts... because he is a great patriot.

I just wonder for all the times people in Texags asked 'the libs' when they were gonna leave commie Obama....

What would it take for you to leave trump.

Let's say - He knew Americans had been killed by Russian paid terrorists And then fought to get Russia back in the G8. Or do you need him(trump)to execute American troops live on fox and on Fifth ave?

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Something other than Joe Biden for starters.

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Conservatives hate Obama because he let Americans be killed. Conservatives love Trump because he let Americans be killed.

Roger that.

I can feel the hypocrisy swelling inside you

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I think 2 Americans have been killed in Afghanistan this year. Zero would be better, but a decent part of that population hates us being there, Russia or No. nobody has even verified if this is true, let alone of anyone is taking up the alleged bounty that wasn't already trying to harm Americans anyways.

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Wacky. This is a big gooey mess.

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I would argue that the media has zero legitimacy when it comes to reporting anything on Russia. But, that obviously doesn't stop them from trying

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Oh I agree the media most certainly does not know the full story, if there is one. But I'm more concerned how easily this stirred up WH, Intel, and congressional resources to go on a goose chase. If fake this shows how easily a foreign country can use media to tie up US Intel resources all the way up to POTUS.

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Why do you assume a foreign country is involved at all? The media would sacrifice anything to contribute to trump losing in November. Russia doesn't have to do anything for the media to do this.

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Sorry wasn't trying to imply another country was involved in this instance. Just that a foreign agent could infiltrate a major US media source quite easily and create a mess.

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Fair enough. I just think you're letting the media off easy. They have proven over and over that they will run with any report that damages trump no matter where it comes from.

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The relationship the administration has with Moscow is just too creepy. Not sure why strong action was not taken in February once confirmed via the intelligence community since American deaths happened.

Incompetent or maligned? Who knows, just another cudgel for the Dems and media to beat the administration with at the start of the week. Pretty awful and it is only Monday.

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Yeah what does trump even gain by it

Things might be getting hairy...

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Letting the media off easy about what? By believing their report might be credible? I don't follow.

I think it's obvious the media only have a fraction of real information when it comes to intelligence matters such as these. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't ask questions and report on it.

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My point is that the media doesn't need a foreign country to to infiltrate them to do this type of thing. You keep bringing that up. My point is the problem lies with the media itself. Not their susceptibility to being infiltrated.

Because they're not trying to kill us already. They need that extra motivation.

Reported unconfirmed intelligence reports about Russia paying the taliban to kill Americans with the only goal of hurting trump or bating him into a conflict with Russia. The same thing they have been doing in regards to Russia from the moment trump won the election.

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He is not trailing Biden in nearly every battle ground state and down 14 pts... because he is a great patriot.

I just wonder for all the times people in Texags asked 'the libs' when they were gonna leave commie Obama....

What would it take for you to leave trump.

Let's say - He knew Americans had been killed by Russian paid terrorists And then fought to get Russia back in the G8. Or do you need him(trump)to execute American troops live on fox and on Fifth ave?

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There is literally nothing he could do because the lib communist totalitarian alternative will always be worse.

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Things might be getting hairy...

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bull****

Read the rest of her tweets. According to her sources, it was NOT in the PDB because it was not able to be confirmed at lower levels in the intel community and was considered unverified info.

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Reported unconfirmed intelligence reports about Russia paying the taliban to kill Americans with the only goal of hurting trump or bating him into a conflict with Russia. The same thing they have been doing in regards to Russia from the moment trump won the election.

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Well at this point there have been multiple outlets and multiple sources reporting on the matter. I'd feel obligated to report on the story and raise questions, even knowing I don't have the full story (I don't think they claim to). American lives and all. How are they supposed to confirm what intel officials are telling them? Ask the WH, ask Congress, ask more intel officials? When does it become confirmed and by who? I mean, I agree they need to confirm their source is solid and not some retiree, but how would they go as far to confirm the entire intelligence of the matter? If they knew the entirety of it then they wouldn't even need the source. Look, I agree, media in 2020 is a rotten institution relative to what it used to be. But to say this is a fabrication made up by multiple media outlets to make Trump look bad I think is unlikely. That's pretty wide coordination between various media outlets, Intel officials, NATO officials ... merely to hurt Trump. And note the WH has only denied that Trump was briefed, they haven't denied the bounties being true from what I know. That's hard for me to swallow this is entirely fabricated so as to hurt Trump. Do certain stakeholders want to use it to discredit him or attack him? Of course. At the same time, I can understand your POV and distrust of the media based on 2016-present. The institution has heavily degraded. Introduces a boy who cries wolf element.

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The only reason this is a major story is to make it seem that Trump knew about it and didn't do anything about it because he and putin are buddies. That is the only portion of the story that actually matters.

OK. I'm telling you why it was reported.

The entire media caring more about goading Trump and trying to tee up a lose lose situation is all Putin needs. The media will do his bidding by making Trump look weak, like Putin's buddy, or start a new mini cold war.

The WH presser said it all today.

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The entire media caring more about goading Trump and trying to tee up a lose lose situation is all Putin needs. The media will do his bidding by making Trump look weak, like Putin's buddy, or start a new mini cold war.

The WH presser said it all today.

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Or people could just care about a potential motivation for American soldiers being killed in Afghanistan while we're in peace talks with the Taliban...

But nah, it's all about the media trying to bring down Trump. Don't worry about the soldiers

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Is this new info?

"AP sources: White House aware of Russian bounties in 2019"

https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1

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Trump haters will believe it. Trump fans will believe it's fake news. The only named source on this is John Bolton and he just said he never briefed trump on it

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Except Bolton doesn't deny knowing about the intelligence in that clip. He played a word game with Chuck Todd's question.

I already covered your response in the quoted post.

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A lot of people say it's true. No one has denied it. Trump allegedly knew a long time ago and took no action. Not a great moment for Trump, but hardly his worst.

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The only people saying it is "true" are citing the New York Times and their "anonymous source."

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Even if there was a former advisor, whistle blower, or recording evidencing it it's not like it would matter.

Besides, there's no need to dig in on fake news and then but Obama/Clinton first.

This seems like the sort of chaotic thing of course Russia or any number of enemies would do, and that we'd not make a big deal about publicly, but rather address privately so as to not limit our options and let the Court of public opinion hem us in. Also who knows what actions we may or may not have taken?

Exactly, which makes the administration's wizened responses to Russia all the more crazy.

Russia is not our friend while Putin is in charge, end of story.

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The entire media caring more about goading Trump and trying to tee up a lose lose situation is all Putin needs. The media will do his bidding by making Trump look weak, like Putin's buddy, or start a new mini cold war.

The WH presser said it all today.

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Or people could just care about a potential motivation for American soldiers being killed in Afghanistan while we're in peace talks with the Taliban...

But nah, it's all about the media trying to bring down Trump. Don't worry about the soldiers

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What's your solution? Tell me what you think is best for Trump to do, and I'll tell you exactly how the media will respond.

When the media finds wrong in anything Trump does, that's how you know it's all about media trying to bring down Trump. Just like how he got bashed in media for Jerusalem embassy, when all he did was execute a Schumer bill passed by a Clinton Congress.

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Just how legit is the accusation that they had bounties on our guys?

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

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Sure they did. In the eighties we were supplying the Afghans with Stinger missiles to shoot down Soviet Hind helicopters. It has been a tit vs tat since WWII. I think it is wrong, but that is what adversarial governments do.

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Can I put you down for not defending American soldiers who are being slaughtered?

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"Slaughtered?" Quit using dramatic words to try and win an argument.

Also, Trump definitely has his faults, but a vote for Joe is a vote for a shadow government because Joe isn't running anything from his nursing home. It's obvious his mind is deteriorating.

This is a non-story. I guarantee Trump took internal action (that shouldn't be publicized) after learning about the reports. If Trump were to make public statements all over the media, Russia would change their MO. It's the dumbest possible thing he could do. Now, because our glorious media has spouted our hundreds of articles the last several days saying we know, Russia will assuredly change their MO. I'm actually surprised Trump was able to resist saying anything on Twitter with how much he tweets.