DTP02 said:
The degree of disagreement between Fauci and Trump on the hydroxychloraquine treatment has been significantly overstated in the press.
Trump didn't say it was a sure thing, he said it had very promising early results.
And Fauci didn't say it wouldn't work, he said essentially that there was anecdotal support for it working but it hasn't been proven by clinical testing.
I expect my science expert to want to hold science to a rigorous standard. And I expect my political leadership to try to push things along in an emergency situation. I see the yin and yang to be natural and healthy.
My bigger concern about Fauci isn't that he is overly politically biased, but that he's just maybe a little too old to be one of the leaders against the greatest pandemic in his lifetime.
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This is a good post. If only Fauci hadn't then turned around and tried to force an untested vaccine right after.
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Referring to the Lancet Surgisphere study during a May 27 (2020) CNN interview, Dr. Fauci stated on CNN about hydroxychloroquine, "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy."101 And even after the scandal lay exposed and the journals retracted their articles, Dr. Fauci let his lie stand. Instead of launching an investigation of this momentous and enormously consequential fraud by the world's two leading medical journals and publicly apologizing, Dr. Fauci and the medical establishment simply ignored the wrongful conduct and persevered in their plan to deny global populations access to lifesaving HCQ. The historic journal retractions went practically unnoticed in the slavish, scientifically illiterate mainstream press, which persisted in fortifying the COVID propaganda. Headlines continued to blame HCQ for the deaths instead of the deliberately treacherous researchers who gave sick, elderly, and compromised patients toxic drug dosages. And most remarkable of all, the FDA made no effort to change the recommendation it made against HCQ. Other countries persisted in demonizing the life-saving drug. Once the FDA approves a prescription medication, federal laws allow any US physician to prescribe the duly approved drug for any reason. Twenty-one percent of all prescriptions written by American doctors, exercising their medical judgment, are for off-label uses.102 Even after the FDA withdrew its Emergency Use Authorization and posted the fraudulent warning on its website,103 many front-line doctors across the country continued to prescribe and report strong benefits with appropriate doses of HCQ. In response, Dr. Fauci took even more unprecedented steps to derail doctors from prescribing HCQ. In March, while people were dying at the rate of 10,000 patients a week, Dr. Fauci declared that hydroxychloroquine should only be used as part of a clinical trial.104 For the first time in American history, a government official was overruling the medical judgment of thousands of treating physicians, and ordering doctors to stop practicing medicine as they saw fit. Boldly and relentlessly, Dr. Fauci kept declaring that "The Overwhelming Evidence of Properly Conducted Randomized Clinical Trials Indicate No Therapeutic Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)."105 Dr. Fauci failed to disclose that NONE of the trials he had used as the basis for that pronouncement involved medication given in the first five to seven days after onset of symptoms. Instead, all of those randomized controlled trials targeted patients who were already sick enough to be hospitalized. People wanting to be treated in that first critical week of illness and avoid being hospitalized were basically out of luck as Dr. Fauci moved to foreclose patients from receiving the lifesaving remedy during the treatment window when science and previous experience showed it to be effective. On July 2, following the humiliating journal retractions, Detroit's Henry Ford Health System published a peer-reviewed study showing that hydroxychloroquine significantly cut death rates even in mid-to-late COVID cases, and without any heartrelated side effects.106 Fauci leapt to the barricades to rescue his vaccine enterprise. On July 30, he testified before Congress that the Michigan results were "flawed."107 The FDA revocation of the EUA and Dr. Fauci's withering response to the Michigan trial provided cover for 33 governors whose states moved to restrict prescribing or dispensing of HCQ.108
nortex97 said:Does somebody owe @RandPaul an apology? pic.twitter.com/FcCayjK0Ql
— Nick Freitas (@NickForVA) July 15, 2022
Fauci should die in prison. https://t.co/umP9yxQhvM
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) January 2, 2023
They need to take the investigation back to Aids.
— Curious (@Curious111188) January 2, 2023
peachbasket said:
I am a political conservative who recently retired from TAMU where I held appointments in both the medical and veterinary colleges. My long research career includes extensive research in infectious diseases, although not on corona viruses. Tony Fauci is the only scientist on the President's task force, and he is truly outstanding in both the breadth and the depth of his knowledge. He will not compromise his science based opinions for either the President or the liberal media. I was proud of President Trump for putting him on the task force. Heaven help us when we judge scientific opinion based on the political leaning of the source.
dermdoc said:peachbasket said:
I am a political conservative who recently retired from TAMU where I held appointments in both the medical and veterinary colleges. My long research career includes extensive research in infectious diseases, although not on corona viruses. Tony Fauci is the only scientist on the President's task force, and he is truly outstanding in both the breadth and the depth of his knowledge. He will not compromise his science based opinions for either the President or the liberal media. I was proud of President Trump for putting him on the task force. Heaven help us when we judge scientific opinion based on the political leaning of the source.
Thank you and you are correct. Dr. Fauci is the best:
peachbasket said:
I am a political conservative who recently retired from TAMU where I held appointments in both the medical and veterinary colleges. My long research career includes extensive research in infectious diseases, although not on corona viruses. Tony Fauci is the only scientist on the President's task force, and he is truly outstanding in both the breadth and the depth of his knowledge. He will not compromise his science based opinions for either the President or the liberal media. I was proud of President Trump for putting him on the task force. Heaven help us when we judge scientific opinion based on the political leaning of the source.
fullback44 said:
Where are the Covidiots who were ********s on this thread that were wrong .. think any of them show up now? I doubt it …. Rand Paul says 7 million people dead and counting .. crazy stuff .. most wars don't come close to that .. what else are they still funding ?
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He will not compromise his science based opinions for either the President or the liberal media.
Tom_Fox said:peachbasket said:
I am a political conservative who recently retired from TAMU where I held appointments in both the medical and veterinary colleges. My long research career includes extensive research in infectious diseases, although not on corona viruses. Tony Fauci is the only scientist on the President's task force, and he is truly outstanding in both the breadth and the depth of his knowledge. He will not compromise his science based opinions for either the President or the liberal media. I was proud of President Trump for putting him on the task force. Heaven help us when we judge scientific opinion based on the political leaning of the source.
You need to have your nose rubbed into this idiocy. Any other screaming hot takes lib?
Thinking about this regularly for nearly three years now... (I have been a WW2 buff for long before CoviFlu) https://t.co/TzhufugsdJ pic.twitter.com/h1IMcmjLAq
— Ivor Cummins (@FatEmperor) February 11, 2023
medwriter said:Man, that is horrible. That poor dog. If he was aware he was going to be tortured he'd probably offed himself somehow. How a human being could do this, which appears to be a form of torture more than anything, is beyond me.mjfrog said:
If beagle torture doesn't change the narrative on what Fauci wants to do to your children, I don't know what will.
https://blog.whitecoatwaste.org/2021/11/15/case-study-how-wcw-exposed-the-role-of-anthony-fauci-in-funding-abusive-animal-experiments/
LOL Fauci now says a lab leak could be considered originating from nature as he practices his perjury defense.
— @amuse (@amuse) March 12, 2023
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@RobertKennedyJr: "If Tony Fauci or anybody had admitted that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin are effective against COVID, it would have been illegal for them to give the emergency use authorization to the vaccines, and they could have never gotten them approved." pic.twitter.com/jhPaMvgIxv
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) March 11, 2023
Dr. Fauci did indeed lie to Congress about approving gain of function research in Wuhan. It is a fact that the scientists that Fauci convinced to change their minds on the lab leak theory were shortly thereafter given million dollar increases in their NIH. https://t.co/0eibmfVOqv
— Rand Paul (@RandPaul) March 11, 2023
Covid Retrospective Series, Vol. 4
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) June 9, 2023
Anthony Fauci, America's Covid Disinformation Agent pic.twitter.com/ufbdGBpG25
nortex97 said:Covid Retrospective Series, Vol. 4
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) June 9, 2023
Anthony Fauci, America's Covid Disinformation Agent pic.twitter.com/ufbdGBpG25
Almost funny to go back and play some of his greatest Fauci Flu hits these days.
Dr. Anthony Fauci declares, "the vulnerable will fall by the wayside." pic.twitter.com/8UU5l9D3Sh
— Andre Damon (@Andre__Damon) September 1, 2023
cevans_40 said:
Another instance where the res-libs look foolish
BuffsAg47 said:
No.
If anyone is guilty of election interference/conspiracies to kill millions/genocide/crimes against humanity/making false statements under oath...it's this guy.FL_Ag1998 said:
Why TF is anybody still even talking to this dude by now?! I know I shouldn't be surprised or let it anger me, but it still ****ing does.