SUag said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's the difference between how a scientist answers questions vs how the layman politician does.

Fauci has been a solid supporter of what Trump has said and done

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Dr. Fauci is best case scenario for someone who is science/data driven but also aligns with trump policy. However, cracks are starting to show in the relationship as Dr. Fauci is not afraid to contradict standard trump lies and bs for the benefit of the public.

Accordingly, wouldn't be surprised to see Dr. Fauci's role minimized going forward or eliminated outright. Trump plays 2nd fiddle to no one. He and his personal agenda ALWAYS come first.

Lets see how this plays out.

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Well that didn't take long! MIA in today's press conference.

SUag said:

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SUag said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's the difference between how a scientist answers questions vs how the layman politician does.

Fauci has been a solid supporter of what Trump has said and done

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Dr. Fauci is best case scenario for someone who is science/data driven but also aligns with trump policy. However, cracks are starting to show in the relationship as Dr. Fauci is not afraid to contradict standard trump lies and bs for the benefit of the public.

Accordingly, wouldn't be surprised to see Dr. Fauci's role minimized going forward or eliminated outright. Trump plays 2nd fiddle to no one. He and his personal agenda ALWAYS come first.

Lets see how this plays out.

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Well that didn't take long! MIA in today's press conference.

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He was making the Sunday news circuit basically calling the media out in the most polite way possible. He's not going anywhere. FFS dude.

Trump is handling this very well.

He has the experts with him up on the podium, and they all get to speak.

Sure he takes a lot of the Q&A, but even then he will defer to the expert.

He's doing exactly what you expect an executive to do in this situation.

Mattis' exit was way different. He didn't like how Trump was handling things(fair criticism) and he made what could be argued as political moves to force that situation.

Fauci is Trump's #1 asset.

Fauci being a Jesuit is enough for me to be wary of him. I apologize to any of you who are true and honest Jesuits.

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AgLiving06 said:

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Trump is handling this very well.

He has the experts with him up on the podium, and they all get to speak.

Sure he takes a lot of the Q&A, but even then he will defer to the expert.

He's doing exactly what you expect an executive to do in this situation.

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Handling it well? Trump is a pathological liar and this ain't changing that. What kind of leader repeatedly lies during a crisis to the point where how his experts handle the lying is a thing?

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Excellent hit piece.

Post more.

Read in text I don't see anything wrong with what he said there.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Read in text I don't see anything wrong with what he said there.

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You're not supposed to read the text. Just read the headline.

SUag said:

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SUag said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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It's the difference between how a scientist answers questions vs how the layman politician does.

Fauci has been a solid supporter of what Trump has said and done

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Dr. Fauci is best case scenario for someone who is science/data driven but also aligns with trump policy. However, cracks are starting to show in the relationship as Dr. Fauci is not afraid to contradict standard trump lies and bs for the benefit of the public.

Accordingly, wouldn't be surprised to see Dr. Fauci's role minimized going forward or eliminated outright. Trump plays 2nd fiddle to no one. He and his personal agenda ALWAYS come first.

Lets see how this plays out.

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Well that didn't take long! MIA in today's press conference.

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Didn't he miss two pressers earlier this week? Fauci could do almost anything and he'd be immune from any presidential retribution until this is all over (This is just a hypothetical... nothing will happen to him). The optics would be too terrible, even for Trump.

He was on the Mark Levin show. Mark asked him some hard questions and Dr. Fauci was very honest. His answers have been consistent.

The interview will not be liked by the folks who can't get off from the party bus of hate recovering from a hate hangover.

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AgLiving06 said:

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Trump is handling this very well.

He has the experts with him up on the podium, and they all get to speak.

Sure he takes a lot of the Q&A, but even then he will defer to the expert.

He's doing exactly what you expect an executive to do in this situation.

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Handling it well?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html

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Wow that is such a pathetic leap. Keep reading edurorialized news stories that fit your agenda if you want.

Fauci is a politician first, physician way down the line. He's never seen a camera/microphone he didn't love. He's been 'ok' in this but I can't stand his type.

Another hit piece.

Good for you.

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Fauci is a politician first, physician way down the line.

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this is the the opposite of true.

he is saying what he thinks based on the science, politics be damned.

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AgLiving06 said:

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Trump is handling this very well.

He has the experts with him up on the podium, and they all get to speak.

Sure he takes a lot of the Q&A, but even then he will defer to the expert.

He's doing exactly what you expect an executive to do in this situation.

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Handling it well?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html

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Three people... in Nigeria... taking way too much of the drug without operating under a doctor's orders, is somehow a reflection on Trump? That's a damning indictment of the media that is willing to print something like that for the consumption of only the most biased/deluded individuals.

This gotcha hyper-partisan BS is so trivial in these times it's demeaning to even address it. I can't imagine the mindset of someone who would actually put something like that out there as if it has any relevance to anything.

Fauci himself has said Trump has never acted against his recommendations; not once. Get outside your bubble. How someone has the energy to keep tilting at windmills with everything going on is disturbing.

not even worth it. Other countries ARE USING the drug & there have been stories about it being used. Trump talked about the idea of it helping and they want to pin 3 morons in Nigeria on him. Just such ****ty reporting.

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nortex97 said:

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Fauci is a politician first, physician way down the line.

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this is the the opposite of true.

he is saying what he thinks based on the science, politics be damned.

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Uh, no, I say that as someone who has had family who worked with and around him at NIH 20 years ago.

your theory completely ignores how he has handled the press conferences over coronavirus.

I don't know how he acted beforehand. Even if he was 100% political over that time, he has shown he is not political the last two weeks.

Incorrect, BMX. He just barely masks his contempt for the GOP/WH.

That he is adored by the whole DC press corps and has professed his love in writing for Hillary Clinton are other current indications, but the biggest to me is his dismissal of hydroxychloroquine as 'anecdotal.'

There's a lot of data out there on it and he knows that, which is why hundreds of millions of dosages have been donated in the past couple weeks.

you are quoting USA Today? now thats funny. the MSM has a vested interest in creating some divide between Fauci and Trump where one does not exist.

Fauci has consistently defended Trump at every turn

What he said about "anecdotal" was accurate from a science standpoint. which goes back to what he is.

I read the interview and pretty much agree with everything he said. Trump absolutely starts riffing off his speeches. That's when he says foolish things like "everyone who wants a test will get a test" almost 2 weeks ago. Get ready for that commercial over and over during the campaign.

They create plans of action and Trump stumbles through the updates. He then says things that aren't fully accurate and they have to stand behind him and answer a nasty press afterward.

It's ok to acknowledge those basic facts because that is what's happening on TV daily. That doesn't mean I think Trump is awful and a failure. But it's definitely a weak spot in this entire saga.

Instead of finding a hit piece, go look at the interview with him on Face the Nation yesterday and tell me he isn't defending/supporting Trump & this task force.

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A news release from Banner Health, based in Arizona, said the couple, both in their 60s, took an additive called chloroquine phosphate, used to clean fish tanks, to try to prevent infection with the coronavirus.

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Man eats fish tank cleaner & dies.

So a man somehow "acquires" chloroquine, takes it without a reason and without doctor supervision and dies and that means we should stop using it?

Seriously? This is the best you have?

LOL, did Fauci somehow approve of that? No. What a random tangent. Might as well use "Florida man" as an indictment of Trump.

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Fauci is a politician first, physician way down the line. He's never seen a camera/microphone he didn't love. He's been 'ok' in this but I can't stand his type.

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Disagree completely.

SUag said:

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Lysol kills coronavirus but I'm not going to start drinking industrial chemicals like these idiots did.

Bunk Moreland said:

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not even worth it. Other countries ARE USING the drug & there have been stories about it being used. Trump talked about the idea of it helping and they want to pin 3 morons in Nigeria on him. Just such ****ty reporting.

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I hope one of them is not a Prince; he is sending me some money?!?!?!?

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And that is sad but I bet they took way more than they should have. Not anybody's fault, just tragic.

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It takes a sick mind to use this to attack Trump.