I don't understand what you're trying to say here

That COVID is a manufactured and coordinated crisis. The virus is real but the response wasn't.

Which post?

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Which post?

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the one with Fauci and the Seattle field hospital

The virus is very real... so is the economic damage from a poorly conceived response. The response went from "nothing to see here, move along" to "shut it down, shut it down now" (die hard reference). Plenty of stupid going on. The economy didn't need to be fire bombed to deal with this and now we'll have even more problems to deal with. Maybe humanity doesn't deserve to survive if this is the level of intellect we manage to muster.

Dr. F is one of two things:

1) a professional political hack who used his position of power to influence to misguide this administration into poor /over reactionary decisions

OR

2) a expert in pandemic response who has all sorts of political connections in DC but no political agenda that Trump is going to throw under the bus as his fall guy when people start to ask "why did you kill the economy over this?"



Trump wants no part of 16 MM UE because of less than 25K dead......someone advised him poorly w ****ty models.

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Give them time to mourn then ask them to go home. You didn't need to bring a fire truck.

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That wasn't in NYC.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/video-shows-passerby-blasted-by-water-cannon-at-jerusalem-protest/

Twitter failed me again.... go figure.

oh look, another fake news tweet.

check sh*t first or don't post it.

but you've been alarmist on this bug from jump

so which is it? deadly catastrophe or nothing burger overreaction that's killing our economy over scant lives lost?

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but you've been alarmist on this bug from jump

so which is it? deadly catastrophe or nothing burger overreaction that's killing our economy over scant lives lost?

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I think it's something in between.

Scotland testing shows low numbers of positives. Paper has not been released yet.

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Give them time to mourn then ask them to go home. You didn't need to bring a fire truck.

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Read the thread, that was from Israel last year. It's not surprising though, the Hasidic and Ultra Orthodox Jews there don't obey any laws in Israel. They are refusing to obey any sort of quarantine at all.

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And I said Texas "cities". Not Texas towns.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/half-of-the-u-s-lives-in-these-146-counties-is-yours-1258718775

Of the fifty most densely populated counties in the US, only one Texas county comes in at 43....and it isn't Harris. It's Dallas.

Again, Texas is nothing like the cities experiencing the outbreaks

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I always knew Dallas was more dense than Houston. Talmbout.

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At a hospital in Chicago, a non-randomized sample found that 30-50% of patients tested for COVID-19 have antibodies in their system, suggesting they already had the virus and have potential immunity.

"A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus," Chicago City Wire reported Thursday.

"Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day," the report detailed. "Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease."

"A lot of people have high antibodies, which means they had the coronavirus but they don't have it anymore, and their bodies built the antibodies," Owaynat told Chicago City Wire.

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An antibody test study is reportedly underway in California by researchers at Stanford University.
"Researchers at Stanford Medicine are working to find out what proportion of Californians have already had COVID-19. The new study could help policymakers make more informed decisions during the coronavirus pandemic," KSBW 8 News reported. "The team tested 3,200 people at three Bay Area locations on Saturday using an antibody test for COVID-19 and expect to release results in the coming weeks."

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LINK

Some good news for a change.

That would be good news, but I'm a bit skeptical that the information is coming from the technician collecting blood. In most situations she wouldn't be running the test, just collecting blood, and therefore wouldn't see the results. Plus, how many places are doing serologic testing in conjunction with testing if they have the active virus or not?

I'd love it to be true, just looking at the source of the information.

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That would be good news, but I'm a bit skeptical that the information is coming from the technician collecting blood. In most situations she wouldn't be running the test, just collecting blood, and therefore wouldn't see the results. Plus, how many places are doing serologic testing in conjunction with testing if they have the active virus or not?

I'd love it to be true, just looking at the source of the information.

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Well, she says she's a phlebotomist so I assume she's not there to use only nasal swabs. Further, for her own safety I would expect her to inquire about test results to gauge her own exposure.

We'll see.

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Catching up. Just wanted to comment that weighing 136lbs at 6 ft is emaciated. That isn't normal. Eat something.

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It's normal for a 17 year old ectomorph who doesn't work out or play sports.

Source: That is almost exactly the physique I was sporting when I graduated high school.

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You mean normal for someone who doesn't eat. There is no such thing as ectomorph, endomorph, etc. There are only those who eat a lot and those who eat small amounts.

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BS. Skeletons differ in span, thickness and density. Largely affected by how much you eat and what kind of exercise you do while growing up. But then more or less static as you get older.

And a 17-year-old also doesn't have much muscle, either.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/coronavirus-can-spread-through-farts-21852204.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Notah Begay: Navajo community 'decimated' by COVID-19 crisis
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/notah-begay-iii-navajo-community-decimated-covid-19-crisis

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/coronavirus-can-spread-through-farts-21852204.amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Brings whole new meaning to the term "crop dusting".

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At first glance I thought, that looks like something from Kazakhstan. Then I zoomed in on the familiar looking green ATM and sure enough I see Cyrillic.

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Catching up. Just wanted to comment that weighing 136lbs at 6 ft is emaciated. That isn't normal. Eat something.

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It's normal for a 17 year old ectomorph who doesn't work out or play sports.

Source: That is almost exactly the physique I was sporting when I graduated high school.

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You mean normal for someone who doesn't eat. There is no such thing as ectomorph, endomorph, etc. There are only those who eat a lot and those who eat small amounts.

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BS. Skeletons differ in span, thickness and density. Largely affected by how much you eat and what kind of exercise you do while growing up. But then more or less static as you get older.

And a 17-year-old also doesn't have much muscle, either.

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Indeed, this is why the fats have bones nearly a foot wide! Their weight is mostly bone and the immense amount of muscle "under the fat" you see. BMI is just discrimination, they are healthy as a horse!

Ran across this article today. If correct, explains a lot the way everything shut down quickly.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article

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Abstract

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 is the causative agent of the 2019 novel coronavirus disease pandemic. Initial estimates of the early dynamics of the outbreak in Wuhan, China, suggested a doubling time of the number of infected persons of 67 days and a basic reproductive number (R0) of 2.22.7. We collected extensive individual case reports across China and estimated key epidemiologic parameters, including the incubation period. We then designed 2 mathematical modeling approaches to infer the outbreak dynamics in Wuhan by using high-resolution domestic travel and infection data. Results show that the doubling time early in the epidemic in Wuhan was 2.33.3 days. Assuming a serial interval of 69 days, we calculated a median R0 value of 5.7 (95% CI 3.88.9). We further show that active surveillance, contact tracing, quarantine, and early strong social distancing efforts are needed to stop transmission of the virus.

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Unbiased America is probably my favorite follow on Facebook. It does a ton of the leg work deciphering fake news

Good article thank you for sharing.

Treated with hydroxychloroquine and the azithromycin.

at what point did they get on the treatment?

The article didn't say.

This is the one which talks about her treatment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-update-102-year-old-woman-defies-odds-to-beat-covid-19-doctor-calls-recovery-miraculous/ar-BB12ugyu

Looks like USA is about to have a third consecutive day of drops in new covid deaths. Numbers of New cases are showing significant drops too.