k2aggie07 said:

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I may be reading it wrong but it appears to say the opposite.

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The WHO has provided a second code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available. Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.

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I missed that part.

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No mention of Boris Johnson going to the hospital? What has happened to this thread.

It's all been a hack from the beginning.

yukmonkey said:

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No mention of Boris Johnson going to the hospital? What has happened to this thread.

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There is its own thread created about it, but was wondering why it wasn't here either

Exsurge Domine said:

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yukmonkey said:

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No mention of Boris Johnson going to the hospital? What has happened to this thread.

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There is its own thread created about it, but was wondering why it wasn't here either

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we're getting diluted out to other boards

Just saw it announced in Telegraph. It is precautionary and he is still in charge.

houag80 said:

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Just saw it announced in Telegraph. It is precautionary and he is still in charge.

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I would bet his o2 sat started dropping.

Could be. Wish him the best.

IrishTxAggie said:

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Don't worry everyone!! SJL is here to make sure we wear PPE properly!!

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...and she is the chair of the coronavirus task force !!

Question for this board: What is the current CFR for the U.S. and what will it be in a month? It appears that deaths divided by cases is currently about 2.8%, which should settle at about double that if it follows SARS timeline. However, deaths divided by total resolved cases is currently over 35%. CFR should be between 2.8% and 35%, with likely figure being close to about 5%. If drug treatments prove effective, the CFR should decline to 3% or less. The truly depressing number is that patients on ventilators are having a survival rate of only 33% in the UK.

We will never know CFR. All we will "know" is deaths and hospitalizations.

VaultingChemist said:

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Question for this board: What is the current CFR for the U.S. and what will it be in a month? It appears that deaths divided by cases is currently about 2.8%, which should settle at about double that if it follows SARS timeline. However, deaths divided by total resolved cases is currently over 35%. CFR should be between 2.8% and 35%, with likely figure being close to about 5%. If drug treatments prove effective, the CFR should decline to 3% or less. The truly depressing number is that patients on ventilators are having a survival rate of only 33% in the UK.

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Looking at the death rate now is pointless, given that we don't know how many people have actually contracted the virus. I believe the final death rate once we have an estimate on total number of cases not just confirmed cases will be well below 1%.

There still are plenty of deaths that still are occurring that very well could be Covid, but aren't counted as such did to a lack of testing.

So bad data on both the numerator and denominator

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WASHINGTON A coroner in Indiana wanted to know if the coronavirus had killed a man in early March, but said that her health department denied a test. Paramedics in New York City say that many patients who died at home were never tested for the coronavirus, even if they showed telltale signs of infection.

In Virginia, a funeral director prepared the remains of three people after health workers cautioned her that they each had tested positive for the coronavirus. But only one of the three had the virus noted on the death certificate.

Across the United States, even as coronavirus deaths are being recorded in terrifying numbers many hundreds each day the true death toll is likely much higher.

More than 9,400 people with the coronavirus have been reported to have died in this country as of this weekend, but hospital officials, doctors, public health experts and medical examiners say that official counts have failed to capture the true number of Americans dying in this pandemic. The undercount is a result of inconsistent protocols, limited resources and a patchwork of decision-making from one state or county to the next.

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How did they calculate the CFR for the graphs? 7-day lag in cases?

Yup

What's your best guess on U.S. CFR currently? I think it is close to 4%, with a chance to approach 7% if hospitals are overwhelmed. I find it odd that these numbers are not being discussed in the media.

VaultingChemist said:

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What's your best guess on U.S. CFR currently? I think it is close to 4%, with a chance to approach 7% if hospitals are overwhelmed. I find it odd that these numbers are not being discussed in the media.

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You believe between 4-7% of people that get this die?

That's impossible, Mike Wallace said just today there is no evidence it works or is safe.

That seems reliable.

Agnzona said:

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That's impossible, Mike Wallace said just today there is no evidence it works or is safe.

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So is this a "good thing he is dead" or not?



Asking for a friend.

Why is it not reliable? It's the cocktail that people have been recommending for a good while now. If it wasn't working, why would Novartis commit to donating 130MM doses of hydroxycloroquine?

Would some of y'all rather here that it works from the Novartis CEO on it?

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Agnzona said:

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That's impossible, Mike Wallace said just today there is no evidence it works or is safe.

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So is this a "good thing he is dead" or not?



Asking for a friend.

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LOL I meant his Son Chris.

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VaultingChemist said:

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What's your best guess on U.S. CFR currently? I think it is close to 4%, with a chance to approach 7% if hospitals are overwhelmed. I find it odd that these numbers are not being discussed in the media.

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You believe between 4-7% of people that get this die?

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Of the cases being documented, yes. Hopefully HCQ and Remdesivir will cut those numbers in half or lower. IFR rates will be lower by at least 33%. If you have a better idea of interpreting the data, please tell me.

Well since will never know how many people of have had it... CFR is useless. Count deaths and hospitalizations.

I would bet a handsome amount that less than 1% of those infected die from CV.

What do you base that on?

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Well since will never know how many people of have had it... CFR is useless. Count deaths and hospitalizations.

I would bet a handsome amount that less than 1% of those infected die from CV.

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Antibody tests will be able to determine the CFR when they become available. Dr. Fauci just stated that the percentage of people that have been infected but not counted in official numbers is between 25% and 50% of the number of current cases.

Facts

Which means 75-90%. Which makes you CFR???

it's gotta be higher than that

I actually believe the drug cocktail has some efficacy especially if given early. But anyone claiming 100% cure of any virus loses credibility IMHO. Even the very best drugs out there just don't do that.