China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Tx-Ag2010 said:

Madman said:

India supposedly stamping the hands of people suspected of having the virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-now-hand-stamping-people-who-are-suspected-have-covid-19-infections





Kinda curious why the stamp is in English.
English is the official Lang of the Indian Gov. India has almost 100 different langs. They were part of the Brit Empire in the 19th and part of the 20th C. English was the 1 lang educated Indians all knew.

Edit BirdBear beat me to it. Good explanation there.
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Madman said:

India supposedly stamping the hands of people suspected of having the virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-now-hand-stamping-people-who-are-suspected-have-covid-19-infections



They should be thankful they are not tattooing just a number on them.
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Joes said:

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Try China.

Finding an english speaker is much harder. Then throw in the fact that Chinese people speak Mandarin, Shanganese, Cantonese, etc and normally only understand their own dialect it can get frustrating quick.

Or go to Scandinavia and have the locals correct your english, also frustrating.
I believe it. I spent a good portion of my childhood growing up in Laredo and I heard more Spanish than English, and learned it pretty well, then later I took two years of Spanish in high school. Yet when I went to Spain a long time ago (1985) we were told there were (I think, from memory) 6 major dialects and far more minor ones. And as comfortable as I had expected to be communicating there I had real trouble in some places. I'm sure China and India are like that x100.
Yep, even just the slang stuff we heard growing up that was the same as what a coworker from near Mexico City used - half of it made no sense to a Colombian we worked with.
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ttu_85 said:

Tx-Ag2010 said:

Madman said:

India supposedly stamping the hands of people suspected of having the virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-now-hand-stamping-people-who-are-suspected-have-covid-19-infections





Kinda curious why the stamp is in English.
English is the official Lang of the Indian Gov. India has almost 100 different langs. They were part of the Brit Empire in the 19th and part of the 20th C. English was the 1 lang educated Indians all knew.

Edit BirdBear beat me to it. Good explanation there.
Good god, how do you function as a society!
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flakrat said:

ttu_85 said:

Tx-Ag2010 said:

Madman said:

India supposedly stamping the hands of people suspected of having the virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-now-hand-stamping-people-who-are-suspected-have-covid-19-infections





Kinda curious why the stamp is in English.
English is the official Lang of the Indian Gov. India has almost 100 different langs. They were part of the Brit Empire in the 19th and part of the 20th C. English was the 1 lang educated Indians all knew.

Edit BirdBear beat me to it. Good explanation there.
Good god, how do you function as a society!
Well until recently they really didn't. For decades one of the poorest nations on Earth. And their caste system didn't help either. Today they have one of the fastest growing ecos. We will see how they handle CV.
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ttu_85 said:

flakrat said:

ttu_85 said:

Tx-Ag2010 said:

Madman said:

India supposedly stamping the hands of people suspected of having the virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-now-hand-stamping-people-who-are-suspected-have-covid-19-infections





Kinda curious why the stamp is in English.
English is the official Lang of the Indian Gov. India has almost 100 different langs. They were part of the Brit Empire in the 19th and part of the 20th C. English was the 1 lang educated Indians all knew.

Edit BirdBear beat me to it. Good explanation there.
Good god, how do you function as a society!
Well until recently they really didn't. For decades one of the poorest nations on Earth. And their caste system didn't help either. Today they have one of the fastest growing ecos. We will see how they handle CV.
Yeah. And all that wealth goes into the hands of the very few while the vast majority of the populace remains very poor. They have the trappings of an advanced society, so while there might be a few 5-star hotels, modern medical clinics, high-end malls, walled/guarded neighborhoods, silicon valley wannabe centers, etc. again only the elite can afford these services. The tribal/caste system combined with a bloated bureaucracy and corruption further tilts the scales. Step outside the 5-star enclaves and the country is horribly impoverished and buildings are falling down around their ears. Preventative maintenance, birth control, food-preparation hygiene, and caring about pollution seem to still be largely foreign concepts. They may not weather this well at all.
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Nice discussion of CFR here
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/dont-panic-the-comprehensive-ars-technica-guide-to-the-coronavirus/#h15


Quote:

...a much larger concern is that we are undercounting the number of cases overall. Because most of the COVID-19 cases that we know about are mild, health experts suspect that many more infected people have not presented themselves to health care providers to be tested. They may have mistaken their COVID-19 case for a common cold or didn't notice it at all. In areas hard hit by COVID-19, there may not have been enough testing capacity to detect all of the mild cases. If a large number of mild cases are being missed in the total case count, it could make the CFR look artificially high.

The best way to clear up this uncertainty is to wait until one of the local outbreaks is completely over and then to do blood tests on the general population to see how many people were infected. Those blood tests would look for antibodies that target SARS-CoV-2...

...some preliminary population screening for COVID-19 infections has been done in China, specifically in Guangdong province. Screening of 320,000 people who went to a fever clinic suggested that we may not be missing a vast number of mild cases. This in turn suggests that the CFRs we are calculating now are not wildly higher than they should be. However, experts still suspect that many mild cases are going unreported, and many still anticipate that the true CFR will be lower than what we are calculating now.

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Shanked Punt said:



You're peddling in Chinese propaganda and election interference.
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A more poetic way to sum that up is...

Maybe yes, maybe no; one thing is certain, we don't really know.
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Haha I feel that! That site does take a bit to update the charts
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UncleNateFitch said:

Shanked Punt said:



You're peddling in Chinese propaganda and election interference.


Exactly. We can lie about our numbers as well.
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Interesting...my twitter feed has been showing the devestating numbers in Italy for days now....if i am googling correct Italy has had yet another day of reduced cases but that fails to make the headlines....just the doom and gloom pieces...
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Yeah, I see the decline for Italy on the Johns Hopkins CSSE Dashboard. Death and damnation are the only things that are allowed to be discussed by the media [sarcasm]
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planoaggie123 said:

Interesting...my twitter feed has been showing the devestating numbers in Italy for days now....if i am googling correct Italy has had yet another day of reduced cases but that fails to make the headlines....just the doom and gloom pieces...
CNN has reported it...

Quote:


Italians woke up Tuesday with a glimmer of hope as the coronavirus death toll in the country appeared to have slowed down.

The number of deaths rose by 602 on Monday, the smallest increase in four days, according to Reuters. The number of new confirmed cases also slowed on Monday. These figures have raised expectations that the worse could be over for the country with the highest number of deaths from the virus worldwide

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Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
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I can find the "good news" if i google...its just the Twitter and other main "highilghts" that so many people wake up to...its the first thing I honestly have been looking at each morning....specifically to Twitter, not one of the 7 bullet points (or the heading) are positive...
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Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
You seriously believe this video???
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hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.
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IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
You seriously believe this video???


Over the Chinese government? Absolutely. I have zero reason to trust anything that government ever says.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
You seriously believe this video???


Over the Chinese government? Absolutely. I have zero reason to trust anything that government ever says.
But you've got plenty of reason to trust a random video on Twitter from a guy with 500 followers with a profile that is less than a month old...
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riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.

Have we ever attempted to "cure" the flu before? No. And we won't. Slowing this down in the short term to buy time is the right thing to do.

America can't shelter in place for 6 months. Eventually you have to accept the Darwinian side of this thing. This will always be around now, if you don't get it this year, you might get it next year. Life must (and will) go on.
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You know what I believe? I believe government power is very seductive and when left unchallenged and allowed to satisfy that yearning for more power, you get a draconian society... like the Chinese government. Like so many governments before it.

The scary part is that people think it can't happen here... their party is too awesome to allow it; while that same government, occupied by members of said "awesome" party allowing **** to happen, chips away liberties marching closer and closer to what they say can't happen.

/rant
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IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
You seriously believe this video???


Over the Chinese government? Absolutely. I have zero reason to trust anything that government ever says.
But you've got plenty of reason to trust a random video on Twitter from a guy with 500 followers with a profile that is less than a month old...
Don't you know how this thread works?

Anything on Twitter, Reddit, 4Chan/8Chan, Facebook, Instagram must be accepted, so as long as it fits the doomsdays or conspiracy narrative.
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hbtheduce said:

riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.

Have we ever attempted to "cure" the flu before? No. And we won't. Slowing this down in the short term to buy time is the right thing to do.

America can't shelter in place for 6 months. Eventually you have to accept the Darwinian side of this thing. This will always be around now, if you don't get it this year, you might get it next year. Life must (and will) go on.


Sarcasm bro. And I agree with you and have accepted the Darwin aspect of this a long time ago. I've been saying next week band should be lifted.
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Shanked Punt said:


She may just be an idiot propagating fear.

Let's think about this for a moment. These guys, covid act now, are driving public health policy.

[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YEj4Vr6lG1jQ1R3LG6frijJYNynKcgTjzo2n0FsBwZA/edit#gid=1579455912][/url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YEj4Vr6lG1jQ1R3LG6frijJYNynKcgTjzo2n0FsBwZA/edit#gid=1579455912

Multiply total deaths on their spreadsheet by 450 to obtain US deaths and 40 to obtain Texas deaths (population/717,545).

Date Total US Deaths Total TX Deaths
7-Mar 0 0
11-Mar 0 0
15-Mar 450 40
19-Mar 1,800 160
23-Mar 4,050 360 <--- We are here These guys are a joke! Our elected officials are idiots.
23-Mar Actual deaths 23-Mar US = 516 TX = 5

27-Mar 10,350 920
31-Mar 24,750 2,200
4-Apr 59,400 5,280
8-Apr 216,450 19,240
12-Apr 579,150 51,480
16-Apr 1,369,350 121,720
20-Apr 2,877,750 255,800
24-Apr 4,968,000 441,600
28-Apr 6,354,450 564,840
2-May 6,609,600 587,520
6-May 6,622,200 588,640
10-May 6,623,550 588,760
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Someone from Wuhan got a video out. Just as we all suspected, the Chinese just left them all to die and have covered it up as attention began to be focused elsewhere.
That video came out in late January if not early February IIRC.

Definitely an emotional outcry and plea.

Definitely taken down on almost all platforms it was posted to. The interesting part is not seeing her again...
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riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.
Not gonna be 10 billion dead.

7.7 billion now populate the earth.
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Wife of Chas Satterfield said:

riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.
Not gonna be 10 billion dead.

7.7 billion now populate the earth.
come on man by the end of the week after that we'll have >16.5billion dead... You're just other college educated dude that doenst understand those pesky exponents...

edit to add: and after a year we'll have more dead people than there are atoms in the universe /simple math
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Yes, the United States is gonna be the epicenter of this pandemic. We will lead in infections and probably deaths unless some African country passes us.
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riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

riverrataggie said:

hbtheduce said:

Social distancing really started about a week ago. This is when you would expect a bend in the curve.


Exactly. I think we have another critical 2-3 days to see if this social distancing might work. By the weekend if the curve hasn't flattened then it might just come down to 10billion dead. Not much else we can do.

Have we ever attempted to "cure" the flu before? No. And we won't. Slowing this down in the short term to buy time is the right thing to do.

America can't shelter in place for 6 months. Eventually you have to accept the Darwinian side of this thing. This will always be around now, if you don't get it this year, you might get it next year. Life must (and will) go on.


Sarcasm bro. And I agree with you and have accepted the Darwin aspect of this a long time ago. I've been saying next week band should be lifted.
Now lifted, at the north end of Kyle Field.
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He's right. if you enter the equation into Excel and then drag it you'll get there.

Its amazing stuff.
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Houston goes shelter in place.

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The hospital CEOs at the medical center basically told the county/city that if they don't lock things down, they will not be able to keep the death rate down and will be overwhelmed. They are already seeing rapidly increasing ICU patients.
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um, what makes you say that over Europe?

they are older, more dense
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