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Is testing going to make the symptoms go away? Because that's what I think when I see tweets like this.

If you have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

If you don't have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

bmks270 said:

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Florida might a have bump of cases in two weeks, but these spring breakers are 18-22 mostly and will probably just sit in their room with a cold and never be entered into the Chinese virus case data.

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The bars are closing, the hotels are closing, the beach is closed. They are going home.

That's when the new outbreaks start to cluster in their home states.

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PJYoung said:

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Is testing going to make the symptoms go away? Because that's what I think when I see tweets like this.

If you have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

If you don't have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

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Except for those who are trying to help stop this thing on the front lines -like that person. We need every warm body and THAT'S why they need to know specifically if health care workers have the virus or not.

When we lose the doctors and nurses for 2+ weeks it's a big problem.

BoydCrowder13 said:

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4,500 new confirmed US cases today and 51 deaths

13,700 total cases and 201 total deaths

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I bet this doesn't even include all of the West Coast's final numbers.

Updated today at 19:00 GMT

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So let the blame game begin. Libs will blame Trump. Of course, maybe I missed it but I only saw dems interested in impeachment and not coronavirus tests.

I personally do not think it is anyone's fault. Except the Chi coms unleashing this crap on the world. And remember Trump was called a racist for limiting travel with China and actually that will turn out to be brilliant.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

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Maybe you guys are fine with Italy sending us 500,000 swabs and China's richest man sending over 1,000,000 testing kits and PPE or whatever and chalk all of this up to dumb luck that other countries were incredibly more prepared than the United States.

Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

I am not saying who is at fault but I think it's obvious we screwed up and were not as prepared as multiple other countries. And we will pay a price in lives needlessly lost.

We had a good solid month head start on this and because we couldn't test it didn't do us much good.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-digestive-symptoms-diarrhea-almost-half-of-patients/


This is kind of freaking me out. 3 days after arriving in Lisbon in February I had severe digestive issues like this describes for like a week. But no respiratory issues.

I still think it's their **** food

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If true maybe I had it in late January.

Never pooed as much over a 3 day period.

Fever lasted about a week and a couple days.

First day of pooing was maybe 40x.

Decreased exponentially.

And no did not overdose on probiotics.

PJYoung said:

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PJYoung said:

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Is testing going to make the symptoms go away? Because that's what I think when I see tweets like this.

If you have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

If you don't have coronavirus, great. Go home. Medicate. Come back if you get worse.

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Except for those who are trying to help stop this thing on the front lines -like that person. We need every warm body and THAT'S why they need to know specifically if health care workers have the virus or not.

When we lose the doctors and nurses for 2+ weeks it's a big problem.

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He shouldn't be spreading his germs whether coronavirus or influenza.

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That's the same one, no?

PJYoung said:

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dermdoc said:

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PJYoung said:

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So let the blame game begin. Libs will blame Trump. Of course, maybe I missed it but I only saw dems interested in impeachment and not coronavirus tests.

I personally do not think it is anyone's fault. Except the Chi coms unleashing this crap on the world. And remember Trump was called a racist for limiting travel with China and actually that will turn out to be brilliant.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

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Maybe you guys are fine with Italy sending us 500,000 swabs and China's richest man sending over 1,000,000 testing kits and PPE or whatever and chalk all of this up to dumb luck that other countries were incredibly more prepared than the United States.

Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

I am not saying who is at fault but I think it's obvious we screwed up and were not as prepared as multiple other countries. And we will pay a price in lives needlessly lost.

We had a good solid month head start on this and because we couldn't test it didn't do us much good.

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I think your premise that the government is competent and will protect us might be where you got confused.

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PJYoung said:

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dermdoc said:

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PJYoung said:

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So let the blame game begin. Libs will blame Trump. Of course, maybe I missed it but I only saw dems interested in impeachment and not coronavirus tests.

I personally do not think it is anyone's fault. Except the Chi coms unleashing this crap on the world. And remember Trump was called a racist for limiting travel with China and actually that will turn out to be brilliant.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

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Maybe you guys are fine with Italy sending us 500,000 swabs and China's richest man sending over 1,000,000 testing kits and PPE or whatever and chalk all of this up to dumb luck that other countries were incredibly more prepared than the United States.

Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

I am not saying who is at fault but I think it's obvious we screwed up and were not as prepared as multiple other countries. And we will pay a price in lives needlessly lost.

We had a good solid month head start on this and because we couldn't test it didn't do us much good.

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I think your premise that the government is competent and will protect us might be where you got confused.

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I think it's sad that you surrender our competence and just concede that other countries like South Korea are that much better and that's the way it has to be.

Sounds like this was a case of better is enemy of the good. We didn't like the WHO test, had a problem with false positives or something. So we wanted to make a better one. Oops.

This is a very informative thread:

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4,500 new confirmed US cases today and 51 deaths

13,700 total cases and 201 total deaths

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Still not worse than the flu.

Originally it was, though the post has been updated.

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Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

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This is fake news. The WHO never offered us test kits.

I'm amazed at all the hard core "mathematicians" who don't understand variables......

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I'm amazed at all the hard core "mathematicians" who don't understand variables......

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Examples please?

Thanks for sharing that.

PJYoung said:

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dermdoc said:

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PJYoung said:

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So let the blame game begin. Libs will blame Trump. Of course, maybe I missed it but I only saw dems interested in impeachment and not coronavirus tests.

I personally do not think it is anyone's fault. Except the Chi coms unleashing this crap on the world. And remember Trump was called a racist for limiting travel with China and actually that will turn out to be brilliant.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

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Maybe you guys are fine with Italy sending us 500,000 swabs and China's richest man sending over 1,000,000 testing kits and PPE or whatever and chalk all of this up to dumb luck that other countries were incredibly more prepared than the United States.

Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

I am not saying who is at fault but I think it's obvious we screwed up and were not as prepared as multiple other countries. And we will pay a price in lives needlessly lost.

We had a good solid month head start on this and because we couldn't test it didn't do us much good.

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So how would testing make a huge difference unless you had enough tests to test everybody? And if you only test symptomatic folks, how do you know whatever the people whose tests are negative are not spreading something just as deadly to high risk folks as the corona virus?

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Thanks for sharing that.

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If you click on post#31, there are six more posts.

Aggressive contact tracing and quarantine. We can't even test people we THINK have it right now, much less the people they MIGHT have come in contact with.

dermdoc said:

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The problem is that this virus has been hyped into a mega killer super virus deadlier than any virus we have seen in years. And there is no evidence of that as of yet in a developed country like the US.

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You just don't know math.. or something.. hospital beds.. ventilators.. models with uncontrolled variables.. rabble rabble.

Shanked Punt said:

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Updated today at 19:00 GMT

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Not normalized for population? That doesn't feel right.

dermdoc said:

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The problem is that this virus has been hyped into a mega killer super virus deadlier than any virus we have seen in years. And there is no evidence of that as of yet in a developed country like the US.

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Don't forget in January we were told it had a kill rate over 70% and some conspiracy whackos said near 100%.

The massive kill rate hype has been going on since almost day 1.

DumbFox News reporter just said 20% of all people infected with the virus require hospital stays..Why are they allowed to lie like this?

techno-ag said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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4,500 new confirmed US cases today and 51 deaths

13,700 total cases and 201 total deaths

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Still not worse than the flu.

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Breaking: The China Virus on pace to surpass # of nightly shooting victims in Chicago.

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DumbFox News reporter just said 20% of all people infected with the virus require hospital stays..Why are they allowed to lie like this?

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Because Fox, just like the rest of the media, loves to hype up anything they can for ratings. The more panicked they can make people, the more people will watch.

Hell, their coverage on the channel guide is often labeled "Coronavirus" or "Coronavirus Pandemic." Even CNN hasn't done that yet.

yep you are right.

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Seems like a strange stance to me when our CDC refused the WHO test which was perfectly ok for the rest of the world and then crapped the bed with their own test 6 weeks ago thereby making it impossible for us to follow the South Korea model.

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This is fake news. The WHO never offered us test kits.

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You are correct, but it seems like the CDC chose to develop their own test, and ignored the WHO protocols which were published... and then they completely **** the bed with their test.

We certainly have the manufacturing capability to create our own tests, but ignoring what the Germans and WHO came up with seems to have been disastrous for taking early action.

That's correct, with the caveat that it is of known / observed cases.

Rapier108 said:

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dermdoc said:

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The problem is that this virus has been hyped into a mega killer super virus deadlier than any virus we have seen in years. And there is no evidence of that as of yet in a developed country like the US.

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Don't forget in January we were told it had a kill rate over 70% and some conspiracy whackos said near 100%.

The massive kill rate hype has been going on since almost day 1.

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Source? Links? Even a tweet from a half-way reputable source?

Probably because the % in China is 31% serious or critical at the moment.

Mordred said:

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Rapier108 said:

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dermdoc said:

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The problem is that this virus has been hyped into a mega killer super virus deadlier than any virus we have seen in years. And there is no evidence of that as of yet in a developed country like the US.

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Don't forget in January we were told it had a kill rate over 70% and some conspiracy whackos said near 100%.

The massive kill rate hype has been going on since almost day 1.

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Source? Links? Even a tweet from a half-way reputable source?

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Go back to the first couple of dozen pages on this thread. The freak out started early and never stopped.

It wasn't any legitimate sources; just out there stuff that people either made up, or found on Twitter or Reddit. But they believed it and went nuts when people called it out for being crap.