pwned 100%

scottimus said:

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UncoverAg00 said:

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I may be way behind, but I read somewhere that the CDC admitted to an oversight commitee that they have found people who died months ago here in the states died of CV... but it was attributed to flu. If true, it makes me wonder. My wife had pneumonia at the beginning of January and tested negative for flu. I ended up getting sick too and would sometimes be so short on breath that it would panic me a little. Was a dry cough and I resorted to using inhalers to help. It took a couple of weeks to kick it. I'm not claiming to have had CV, but it certainly makes me wonder.

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Same thing with me and my 4 kids.

About the time Brazos County was testing the potential case, my 4 children and I developed a weird flu...wasn't the normal flu and we stayed home for the week. Doctor said type B flu but didn't test.

All fine now.

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I don't see anyway that this thing just arrived here in the last 7-10 days.

Seems to me that it is absolutely possible if not likely that many people have had this in the US since as far back as the 1st of the year.

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really struggling with whether we should let my mom take my kids, 3 and 2, to the as of now not canceled Houston st patricks day parade. we have told her no as of now.

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Dude, parades are terrible. Why even consider it in this situation...?

What will this do to our prison population that are wards of the state?

cone said:

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explain Thailand

that's the real outlier

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How prepared is Thailand to deal with the epidemic?

A note by the Thailand Embassy stated that Thailand was Asia's most prepared country in the event of an epidemic, as ranked by Johns Hopkins University, and sixth out of 165 countries globally.

Thailand ranked second in having a robust health system capable of treating the sick and protecting healthcare workers. It was ranked third in the prevention of the emergence or release of pathogens.

Thailand's Ministry of Public Health launched the 'Big Cleaning Week' on 04 February to make the general public aware of personal hygiene practices at the workplace, home, and public places. Hotel operators have been advised to monitor the health of tourists for coronavirus symptoms.t

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The government is also taking preventive measures such as:

Placing screening systems at popular tourist spots such as Asiatique The Riverfront
Advising visitors to wear masks
Providing alcohol-based sanitisers and masks at attractions such as Siam Niramit
Performing additional cleaning and disinfection across public transportation
To avoid further decline in visitors, The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) assured visitors of strong measures to maintain hygiene and prevent the viral spread.

Thai authorities are also considering to limit export of surgical masks to avoid shortage in the country, the demand for which has been surging since the epidemic's outbreak. Thailand exports approximately 400 million masks a year.

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TAT is also issuing Health Beware Cards to travellers arriving in Thailand, which can be shown to doctors in case of feeling symptoms such as fever, cough and breathing difficulties within 14 days of arriving in Thailand.

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https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-affected-countries-thailand-measures-impact-tourism/

Sine poena nulla lex.

96ags said:

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scottimus said:

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UncoverAg00 said:

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I may be way behind, but I read somewhere that the CDC admitted to an oversight commitee that they have found people who died months ago here in the states died of CV... but it was attributed to flu. If true, it makes me wonder. My wife had pneumonia at the beginning of January and tested negative for flu. I ended up getting sick too and would sometimes be so short on breath that it would panic me a little. Was a dry cough and I resorted to using inhalers to help. It took a couple of weeks to kick it. I'm not claiming to have had CV, but it certainly makes me wonder.

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Same thing with me and my 4 kids.

About the time Brazos County was testing the potential case, my 4 children and I developed a weird flu...wasn't the normal flu and we stayed home for the week. Doctor said type B flu but didn't test.

All fine now.

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I don't see anyway that this thing just arrived here in the last 7-10 days.

Seems to me that it is absolutely possible if not likely that many people have had this in the US since as far back as the 1st of the year.

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There you go. People are starting to get it. I've been harping from the get go the number of cases is exponentially higher. This is a positive. Likely a lot of people already have had this run through them and thus mortality rate and % of serious conditions is much less than expected.

The bad news is we didn't even see it coming and as others have said it's a multiplier effect on top of other *****

Remember, "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Mark Twain.

Here's the CDC's virus page: SIAP

still doesn't add up, given the proximity and interaction with Wuhan/mainland China

same with the Philippines

NY locking things down. No gatherings more than 500 people...

This is my suspicion also. Probably a lot of cold and untested flu diagnoses have been this mess.

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Sorry if already discussed, but how the hell is India staying relatively out of all this? Lock down all borders, airports, trains?

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Ok same question for Russia.

I'm assuming they locked everything down very fast, and then anyone who has a cough gets shipped to Siberia??

lunchbox said:

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NY locking things down. No gatherings more than 500 people...

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That is going to kill Broadway

tsuag10 said:

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tsuag10 said:

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Sorry if already discussed, but how the hell is India staying relatively out of all this? Lock down all borders, airports, trains?

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Ok same question for Russia.

I'm assuming they locked everything down very fast, and then anyone who has a cough gets shipped to Siberia??

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I think it's extremely naive to think India and Russia have somehow missed this.

cone said:

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explain Thailand

that's the real outlier

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As discussed previously, Thailand is classifying cases as "viral pneumonia" rather than coronavirus

I remember you saying that now

do you have a link to read on it?

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I said it earlier, but I'll say it again. SOOOOO many more people actually have CV or have had it recently, but because of limited testing it remains unreported.

This is a huge issue that I cannot believe the media is not reporting on.

My wife kids and I very likely had it weeks ago but powered through it because "strep & flu tests were negative".

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No doubt it's already out there, but that goes both ways too... Basically it's been around, but it also means a ton more people have spread it. Either way it needs mitigation.

Left axis is deaths right axis is infected.

It was linked on one of the Peak Prosperity youtube videos

Boston Marathon postponed until Sept

i heard that CV doesn't like RBVs, so I need to medicate during the day to help keep the CV away!

This is about to be announced by Harris County...

MouthBQ98 said:

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What will this do to our prison population that are wards of the state?

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Two biggest goofballs in local politics...and that is saying something

Tanya 93 said:

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lunchbox said:

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NY locking things down. No gatherings more than 500 people...

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That is going to kill Broadway

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Eh. No big loss.

riverrataggie said:

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96ags said:

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scottimus said:

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UncoverAg00 said:

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I may be way behind, but I read somewhere that the CDC admitted to an oversight commitee that they have found people who died months ago here in the states died of CV... but it was attributed to flu. If true, it makes me wonder. My wife had pneumonia at the beginning of January and tested negative for flu. I ended up getting sick too and would sometimes be so short on breath that it would panic me a little. Was a dry cough and I resorted to using inhalers to help. It took a couple of weeks to kick it. I'm not claiming to have had CV, but it certainly makes me wonder.

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Same thing with me and my 4 kids.

About the time Brazos County was testing the potential case, my 4 children and I developed a weird flu...wasn't the normal flu and we stayed home for the week. Doctor said type B flu but didn't test.

All fine now.

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I don't see anyway that this thing just arrived here in the last 7-10 days.

Seems to me that it is absolutely possible if not likely that many people have had this in the US since as far back as the 1st of the year.

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There you go. People are starting to get it. I've been harping from the get go the number of cases is exponentially higher. This is a positive. Likely a lot of people already have had this run through them and thus mortality rate and % of serious conditions is much less than expected.

The bad news is we didn't even see it coming and as others have said it's a multiplier effect on top of other *****

Remember, "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Mark Twain.

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I am in my mid 30s and otherwise healthy. I caught a cough and chest congestion in November/December that I could not shake. I finally got some extreme fatigue and shortness of breath that really freaked me out. I was thinking I was way, way out of shape or maybe I should go talk to a doctor about a possible heart problem (there is some family history). I went to the doctor and tested negative for flu, but they diagnosed me with viral pneumonia. I thought that was odd for someone my age and figured I should not let a cough go so long again before seeing my doctor. Steroid shots, pills, antibiotics (in case it was bacterial) and it still took another 2 weeks to feel back to normal

I certainly don't assume I had this virus but I wonder what they would have found if they actually tested me for something other than the flu.

I'm gonna buy some netflix stock...

Sine poena nulla lex.

Same thing here. Traveled internationally in Dec/Jan. Got home. I swore I had the flu. Negative for both flu and strep. Steroid shot had me feeling better, but I could not shake the cough for a few weeks. My wife and kids both had a something similar.

riverrataggie said:

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96ags said:

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scottimus said:

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UncoverAg00 said:

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I may be way behind, but I read somewhere that the CDC admitted to an oversight commitee that they have found people who died months ago here in the states died of CV... but it was attributed to flu. If true, it makes me wonder. My wife had pneumonia at the beginning of January and tested negative for flu. I ended up getting sick too and would sometimes be so short on breath that it would panic me a little. Was a dry cough and I resorted to using inhalers to help. It took a couple of weeks to kick it. I'm not claiming to have had CV, but it certainly makes me wonder.

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Same thing with me and my 4 kids.

About the time Brazos County was testing the potential case, my 4 children and I developed a weird flu...wasn't the normal flu and we stayed home for the week. Doctor said type B flu but didn't test.

All fine now.

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I don't see anyway that this thing just arrived here in the last 7-10 days.

Seems to me that it is absolutely possible if not likely that many people have had this in the US since as far back as the 1st of the year.

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There you go. People are starting to get it. I've been harping from the get go the number of cases is exponentially higher. This is a positive. Likely a lot of people already have had this run through them and thus mortality rate and % of serious conditions is much less than expected.

The bad news is we didn't even see it coming and as others have said it's a multiplier effect on top of other *****

Remember, "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Mark Twain.

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Yup. I would be willing to bet this thing has been here and lots have already had it and recovered with zero issues.

It's been so quiet it's made it's way around without notice. These cases that popped up recently may be late to the party. Chinese business travel could have brought it here in December if not sooner. Who know how long China was dealing with it.

Like the flu, has taken out mostly elderly with some outliers. I would be willing to bet it has been identified as flu without tests at times.

Off to Lowe's to get some masks. Have to mow the lawn.

Go visibly cough a lot in the paper goods aisle at the local grocery store, then buy as much TP as they will then gladly give you to get you out of there.