ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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TexAgs91 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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Side note, I noticed a subtle shift yesterday with the WH press conference. The administration's starting to hang this around China's neck.

Trump said something like 'America was rolling along, and now we've been hit with this and it's due to no fault of our own.'

Now you're seeing Congressional leaders referring to this as Wuhan flu (and the leftist hack media calling that 'racist').

It appears the administration is headed down the path of this being China's fault (rightly so).

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When you're telling this story again, as long as you're including characterizations from random people you can include the fact that I called the leftist media hack an idiot.

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It's been all over twitter since the White House press conference yesterday.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3099003

It's amazing and yet predictable how lefties are so ignorant of history:

* Ebola named after the Ebola river where outbreak began.
* Marburg virus named after Marburg, Germany where it was discovered.
* Hantavirus named after Hanta River in South Korea where outbreak began.
* West Nile, Nile Uganda
* German Measles
* Rock Mountain Spotted Fever, Rocky Mountains
* Lyme Disease, Lyme Connecticut
* Reston ebola, Reston VA

The list goes on....

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Yes. Exactly why the leftist media hack is an idiot.

The latest from Italy...

https://www.rt.com/news/482767-italy-coronavirus-death-toll-again/

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Another 168 people in Italy have died of the COVID-19 coronavirus, bringing the death toll to 631, while the total number of cases rose by over ten percent to 10,149. The entire country is locked down in quarantine.

Tuesday's jump in the deaths, from the previous record of 463, represents a 36 percent rise and the largest in absolute numbers since the infection was first noticed on February 21, the Civil Protection Agency said.

Some 877 patients were in intensive care, up from 733 on Monday. The number of patients who recovered has also risen, however, and stood at 1,004 on Tuesday as opposed to 724 the day before.

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

Global warming will save us.....perish the thought. So what the h*ll do i do now with a garage full of TP?

Wendy 1990 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

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Would like to see that study posted. Going to consider it somewhere between a hopeful guess and speculation until I've seen an experiment.

this is a novel virus transmitting in a population with no immunity

we don't know if the summer will provide any meaningful mitigation, especially if most transmission is happening indoors

H1N1 raged out of flu season

SIAP. Interesting thread, and chart.

Good video on one of the treatments that's currently in the study phase remdesivir, and below that is the precursor video he is referring to.



Here is the 101 level of microbiology of Covid-19

I posted this on the thread about closures. This is LONG but good read (follow links). And after a few minutes I thought I was reading about the Coronavirus. The annual flu is bad news, especially if you have pre-existing conditions and are old. The difference seems to be Corona doesn't attack healthy young.

[url=https://www.medscape.com/answers/219557-3459/what-is-the-global-incidence-of-influenza][/url]https://www.medscape.com/answers/219557-3459/what-is-the-global-incidence-of-influenza

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Quote:
In tropical areas, influenza occurs throughout the year. In the Northern Hemisphere, the influenza season typically starts in early fall, peaks in mid-February, and ends in the late spring of the following year. The duration and severity of influenza epidemics vary, however, depending on the virus subtype involved.

The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths. [21] In the United States, individual cases of seasonal flu and flu-related deaths in adults are not reportable illnesses; consequently, mortality is estimated by using statistical models. [1]

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that flu-associated deaths in the US ranged from about 3000 to 49,000 annually between 1976 and 2006. The CDC notes that the often-cited figure of 36,000 annual flu-related deaths was derived from years when the predominant virus subtype was H3N2, which tends to be more lethal than H1N1. [1]

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That's a 10% fatality rate for "3-5 million cases of severe illness".

Wendy 1990 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

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The danger from being infected by touching fomites (objects with viruses on their surfaces) will certainly go down during warmer months.

However, it is yet to be seen how much the human-to-human transmission will be slowed. There is no herd immunity with this virus.

Live in Central America (Panama) and we just got our first confirmed case last night. Was a woman who had just flown back in the country from Spain.

About as hot and humid as you can hope for here at the equator. We will see if Panama has any 'community spread' start. Costa Rica now has about 10 cases, Equador has 1 etc.

But I would keep an eye on those Latin American countries to see if the outbreaks stay minimal, if you are hoping for warm weather to help out up North.

cisgenderedAggie said:

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Wendy 1990 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

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Would like to see that study posted. Going to consider it somewhere between a hopeful guess and speculation until I've seen an experiment.

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Maybe all of the countries in SE Asia with tropical climates serves as a pretty good indicator. Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, etc. all have significantly lower cases and high temps in common. It's a pretty good sized list of countries that are in the immediate surroundings of China.

Wendy 1990 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

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We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

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BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

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Singapore has a kick ass health care system. They studies temps and humidities on this already. Said higher temps will make no difference on the virus itself and people should not count on weather change to help knock this down.

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Said higher temps will make no difference on the virus itself

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we don't know either way, but agree that you can't rely on any mitigation. you just have to prepare and distance and watch what happens.

Health officials said a school-age child had an "inconclusive test and is being re-tested" but that all other individuals tested negative.

Ready for school closures????

Frisco schools closed in 3... 2... 1...

If one family member gets it, it's is hard to imagine where the entire family doesn't get it.

It really sounds like some sort of lockdown is going to be coming for all/some of Washington state.

https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/inslee-up-to-64000-coronavirus-cases-in-wash-by-may-if-we-dont-take-action

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OLYMPIA, Wash. - Up to 64,000 people could be infected with coronavirus in Washington state within a few weeks if actions aren't taken now to stop its spread, Gov. Inslee said Tuesday.

Although the number of confirmed cases is now 162, Inslee said experts believe the actual number could be 1,000 or more at the present time.

"What the experts are telling us is ... the number of people who are infected will double in anywhere from 5 to 8 days ... unless we take some real action," the governor said at a morning news conference.

"And if you do the math, it gets very disturbing. ... If it's 1,000 (infections) today, in seven to eight weeks there could be 64,000 people infected in the state of Washington if we don't somehow slow down this epidemic. And in the next week it could be 120,000, and in the next week a quarter of a million."

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Isn't Frisco ISD on spring break? Only positive I can see.

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Isn't Frisco ISD on spring break? Only positive I can see.

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They are.

And the kid went to Tadlock Elementary (north Frisco)

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Isn't Frisco ISD on spring break? Only positive I can see.

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They are.

And the kid went to Tadlock Elementary (north Frisco)

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So I assume the kid isn't three then.

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Said higher temps will make no difference on the virus itself

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we don't know either way, but agree that you can't rely on any mitigation. you just have to prepare and distance and watch what happens.

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Singapore put out studies on the virus in the following areas:

1. What cleaning / sanitation products will and won't work on the virus (and how long they have to be applied to do so).

2. Temperature and humidity impact on the virus. As I mentioned previously, they stated you need a combination of high temperatures and low humidity (lower than 20%) to impact this bug.

Denmark had 92 cases yesterday. Today they added 172 more.

Sweden Switzerland and Spain had big additions as a % of current cases as well.

Italy was way down from yesterday.

riverrataggie said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Isn't Frisco ISD on spring break? Only positive I can see.

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They are.

And the kid went to Tadlock Elementary (north Frisco)

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So I assume the kid isn't three then.

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two kids. 3YO positive, other one is inconclusive

hoosierAG said:

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If one family member gets it, it's is hard to imagine where the entire family doesn't get it.

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Except for when they don't as I posted in another thread. A buddy of mine's MIL that lives in Austin had it, didn't even know it, hung around the whole family in CS with it, got over it, and not a single other person in the family got it.

FriscoKid said:

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riverrataggie said:

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FriscoKid said:

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riverrataggie said:

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Isn't Frisco ISD on spring break? Only positive I can see.

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They are.

And the kid went to Tadlock Elementary (north Frisco)

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So I assume the kid isn't three then.

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two kids. 3YO positive, other one is inconclusive

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Gotcha. Yeah lockdown incoming.

IrishTxAggie said:

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cisgenderedAggie said:

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Wendy 1990 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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ttu_85 said:

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AG 2000' said:

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houag80 said:

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From John's Hopkins University:
Coronavirus
Global Cases: +115,000
Global Deaths: +4,028
USA Cases: +755
USA Deaths: +26

From CDC
USA Deaths so far 2020(General influenza): ~28,000

Things that make you go hmmm.

---

We're at the end of flu season, whereas we're just starting coronavirus season.

Exponential growth is not our friend.

For perspective, CDC is projecting that by end of May (if not sooner), we will run out of ICU beds in the entirety of the United States due to this.

---

BS its a new virus remember !!. So how the hell do you know.

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Simmer down Karen. My point was we are just getting started here in the US while flu season is nearing its traditional conclusion.

If you are watching every other country thinking it won't blow up here I can't help you. New York City just quarantined a neighborhood with the National guard and if you listened to this morning's Washington state press conference, western WA going to be on lock down by end of week.

But hey its just the flu bro.

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By the end of May the southern half of the US will be entering early summer. We'll be in the low 90's at that time. I thought this virus is fragile when higher temps and humidity are present? I think this is a factor that will mitigate the spread.

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Would like to see that study posted. Going to consider it somewhere between a hopeful guess and speculation until I've seen an experiment.

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Maybe all of the countries in SE Asia with tropical climates serves as a pretty good indicator. Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, etc. all have significantly lower cases and high temps in common. It's a pretty good sized list of countries that are in the immediate surroundings of China.

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Singapore has a kick ass health care system. They studies temps and humidities on this already. Said higher temps will make a difference on the virus itself and people should count on weather change to help knock this down.

- See how easy this is? This thread is full of stuff like this. Nobody knows anything, and a problem with this thread is is that one person will say they saw a study or link something on one page and 10-20 pages later someone else will say they saw a study that proves the opposite. I personally am in the summer will stem the spread of this puny virus, but we won't know until summer gets here.

US Timeline:



Italitan Timeline

*****..not even the wizards are safe.

KorbinDallas said:

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I'll admit is probably a dumb question, but if the Italian Hospitals are getting full of "otherwise healthy people", as you put it, why aren't they being discharged to make room for the seriously ill? Wouldn't it be easy to send those patients home for self quarantine?

Is it some sort of legal issue with discharging patients?

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You ever win an argument with an old Italian lady?

Hard to win an argument against somebody when you're more focused on avoiding their hands than listening to their argument.