China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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I'm thinking you don't hang around IT people. We can go by an entire month without writing a complete sentence.
I stand corrected, then.

Now that I think about it, technical writers aren't well versed in concise, explanatory and effective communication.

Even Ikea is atrocious.

I'm a gal. I try to actually read directions as opposed to The Hubs.
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KidDoc said:

My conference for pediatric medical education (COMSEP) just announced it is cancelled. It was supposed to be in Cincinnati.

What is super annoying is they FINALLY announced it at 6 PM. They were supposed to decide by 12. To make it more fun if you don't cancel the hotel within 24 hours of the announcement you will be charged full price.

Bunch of a-holes.

Bet it is gonna be fun waiting on hold with the hotel with 1000's of other Pediatricians.

And I cannot just decide to suddenly re-open my clinic next week because all the staff has plans already assuming I would be gone. Ah well more time for Texags I guess.
I assume that is one of required continuing medical education courses for you?

Contest the charges with your credit card company.
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Illuminaggie said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

Looks like our government is going to go the way of Iran's!

Are there any old people in our .gov? They're the only ones that really need to worry.


If it includes Congress? Then yes there was lots of old people there.
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Snap E Tom said:

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So this thing is at six figures plus in a smidge under a 100 different countries across this entire world.

When does it become a pandemic? Genuinely curious.


It's a pandemic by definition. It's well beyond it's original source Wuhan China and there is country to country community level spread.

The WHO, CDC etc just won't announce it to avoid panicking people.
This is why the WHO won't declare a pandemic:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/425m-in-world-bank-catastrophe-bonds-set-to-default-if-coronavirus-declared-a-pandemic-by-june

Basically, playing with people's lives so a few rich people can be richer.


$425MM is a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions that melted off the last month. There are richer people who have lost more than that. This is grasping at straws
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IrishTxAggie said:

Snap E Tom said:

Mr.Infectious said:

Eliminatus said:

So this thing is at six figures plus in a smidge under a 100 different countries across this entire world.

When does it become a pandemic? Genuinely curious.


It's a pandemic by definition. It's well beyond it's original source Wuhan China and there is country to country community level spread.

The WHO, CDC etc just won't announce it to avoid panicking people.
This is why the WHO won't declare a pandemic:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/425m-in-world-bank-catastrophe-bonds-set-to-default-if-coronavirus-declared-a-pandemic-by-june

Basically, playing with people's lives so a few rich people can be richer.


$425MM is a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions that melted off the last month. There are richer people who have lost more than that. This is grasping at straws
So just because people lost money, it's ok to lose more? I can see you're not rich. For several reasons.
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DON'T GO GET TESTED OR ELSE WE MAY GET THE POLICE INVOLVED!
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Yes and no. It's probably not the bond itself that was the issue. $425MM is a relatively small amount.

It's all of the derivatives that were leveraged 100:1 behind the scenes on all of those bonds. If those blow up, no bailout in the world is going to fill the hole left in the bank or two holding them.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



DON'T GO GET TESTED OR ELSE WE MAY GET THE POLICE INVOLVED!
WTF is a Hospital Police Department? That is a thing?
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
I am not friends with school shooters.
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Snap E Tom said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Snap E Tom said:

Mr.Infectious said:

Eliminatus said:

So this thing is at six figures plus in a smidge under a 100 different countries across this entire world.

When does it become a pandemic? Genuinely curious.


It's a pandemic by definition. It's well beyond it's original source Wuhan China and there is country to country community level spread.

The WHO, CDC etc just won't announce it to avoid panicking people.
This is why the WHO won't declare a pandemic:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/425m-in-world-bank-catastrophe-bonds-set-to-default-if-coronavirus-declared-a-pandemic-by-june

Basically, playing with people's lives so a few rich people can be richer.


$425MM is a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions that melted off the last month. There are richer people who have lost more than that. This is grasping at straws
So just because people lost money, it's ok to lose more? I can see you're not rich. For several reasons.

Actually, I'm a proud 1%er.
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OverSeas AG said:

YouBet said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



DON'T GO GET TESTED OR ELSE WE MAY GET THE POLICE INVOLVED!
WTF is a Hospital Police Department? That is a thing?
Similar to Universities that have a police department.
Interesting. My hospital didn't have that, but I've also been out of the business for a long time.
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Costco has a sanitation squad sanitizing carts and various surfaces. Of course they sanitize the carts as you enter, after you've already touched them and picked up all the germs from the previous user.

But ultimately it's just to give the sample employees something to do, as they announced they were temporarily suspending samples, which would have left a lot of contract workers in a lurch.
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aggietony2010 said:



But ultimately it's just to give the sample employees something to do, as they announced they were temporarily suspending samples, which would have left a lot of contract workers in a lurch.


Costco is suspending samples!??!!
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KidDoc said:

My conference for pediatric medical education (COMSEP) just announced it is cancelled. It was supposed to be in Cincinnati.

What is super annoying is they FINALLY announced it at 6 PM. They were supposed to decide by 12. To make it more fun if you don't cancel the hotel within 24 hours of the announcement you will be charged full price.

Bunch of a-holes.

Bet it is gonna be fun waiting on hold with the hotel with 1000's of other Pediatricians.

And I cannot just decide to suddenly re-open my clinic next week because all the staff has plans already assuming I would be gone. Ah well more time for Texags I guess.

But on the plus side, you don't have to go to Cincinnati!
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Shanked Punt said:

aggietony2010 said:



But ultimately it's just to give the sample employees something to do, as they announced they were temporarily suspending samples, which would have left a lot of contract workers in a lurch.


Costco is suspending samples!??!!
Someone didn't use a cocktail stick!
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What's Amtrak Joe going to do now?
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It would be interesting to see flu statistics on media blast for a month.

Would it be as scary even with the greater numbers?
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smango05 said:

KidDoc said:

My conference for pediatric medical education (COMSEP) just announced it is cancelled. It was supposed to be in Cincinnati.

What is super annoying is they FINALLY announced it at 6 PM. They were supposed to decide by 12. To make it more fun if you don't cancel the hotel within 24 hours of the announcement you will be charged full price.

Bunch of a-holes.

Bet it is gonna be fun waiting on hold with the hotel with 1000's of other Pediatricians.

And I cannot just decide to suddenly re-open my clinic next week because all the staff has plans already assuming I would be gone. Ah well more time for Texags I guess.

But on the plus side, you don't have to go to Cincinnati!

And miss out on exquisite delicacies like Skyline Chili?
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Just bought my Cody Johnson concert tickets for next Friday. To hell with Covid 19!
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/doctor-consulted-70-patients-at-toorak-clinic-while-infected-with-coronavirus-20200307-p547su.html

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A Toorak doctor who has tested positive for coronavirus consulted about 70 Melbourne patients for five days while infected.

Health Minister Jenny Mikakos confirmed the doctor, in his 70s, may have contracted the virus on a flight in the US.

He developed a runny nose on an internal flight from Denver to San Francisco on February 27 and then flew from San Francisco to Melbourne on flight UA0060 arriving at 9.30am on February 29.

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Health authorities are 'flabbergasted' a Toorak doctor with flu-like symptoms continued to treat about 70 patients while concerns for coronavirus surge.
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Robert C. Christian said:

smango05 said:

KidDoc said:

My conference for pediatric medical education (COMSEP) just announced it is cancelled. It was supposed to be in Cincinnati.

What is super annoying is they FINALLY announced it at 6 PM. They were supposed to decide by 12. To make it more fun if you don't cancel the hotel within 24 hours of the announcement you will be charged full price.

Bunch of a-holes.

Bet it is gonna be fun waiting on hold with the hotel with 1000's of other Pediatricians.

And I cannot just decide to suddenly re-open my clinic next week because all the staff has plans already assuming I would be gone. Ah well more time for Texags I guess.

But on the plus side, you don't have to go to Cincinnati!

And miss out on exquisite delicacies like Skyline Chili?


Deadlier for your GI tract than COVID-19!! Though I could put down a 5-way and a couple cheese coneys right now though!
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Agsrback12 said:

It would be interesting to see flu statistics on media blast for a month.

Would it be as scary even with the greater numbers?


Breaking news: Uruguay confirms first case of the flu.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-how-hospitals-are-preparing-for-us-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3



US apparently preparing for 96 million cases and some of these numbers used above are the low end estimates in comparison to some studies.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-how-hospitals-are-preparing-for-us-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3



US apparently preparing for 96 million cases and some of these numbers used above are the low end estimates in comparison to some studies.
Better to take the worst estimates and prepare for those than get caught flatfooted.
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lunchbox said:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/doctor-consulted-70-patients-at-toorak-clinic-while-infected-with-coronavirus-20200307-p547su.html

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A Toorak doctor who has tested positive for coronavirus consulted about 70 Melbourne patients for five days while infected.

Health Minister Jenny Mikakos confirmed the doctor, in his 70s, may have contracted the virus on a flight in the US.

He developed a runny nose on an internal flight from Denver to San Francisco on February 27 and then flew from San Francisco to Melbourne on flight UA0060 arriving at 9.30am on February 29.

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Health authorities are 'flabbergasted' a Toorak doctor with flu-like symptoms continued to treat about 70 patients while concerns for coronavirus surge.

IIRC, a doctor in Japan did the same thing.

It's bad enough with a normal person goes around spreading illness, but when a doctor does it, there are no adjectives strong enough to describe the amount of stupidity.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Those are manageable numbers.
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Just wanted to post that I am tired of this corona virus bull***** ****ing thing sucks
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We are such a weak society.
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First case in Hawaii, passenger on the previous Grand Princess cruise.

Also, three more cases in CA connected to the same ship/cruise.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/3-new-coronavirus-cases-in-contra-costa-co-with-connection-to-grand-princess-ship
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-how-hospitals-are-preparing-for-us-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3



US apparently preparing for 96 million cases and some of these numbers used above are the low end estimates in comparison to some studies.


Now imagine a 10% hospitalization rate that some counties are seeing.

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frito lay and pepsi closing plano offices and mandating WFH
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AgsMyDude said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-how-hospitals-are-preparing-for-us-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-3



US apparently preparing for 96 million cases and some of these numbers used above are the low end estimates in comparison to some studies.


Now imagine a 10% hospitalization rate that some counties are seeing.




Suddenly locking down 100 million people doesn't seem so crazy
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This should come as a shock to absolutely no one at all.

The three cases in Maryland, and all of the cases in Houston are from people who took a CRUISE SHIP on the Nile River. The ship, MS Asara, was found to have crew aboard who are infected and were placed into quarantine.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/maryland-coronavirus-cases-linked-to-egyptian-cruise-ship-governor-says

And two of the individuals in Maryland recently went to large events, one at a school and another at a nursing home.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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