China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.
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eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.
If I'm alive, I'll be in the market in about a year.
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eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.
are you new to this disease?
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lead said:

eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.
are you new to this disease?
Nope.

Has this already been discussed here? I don't feel like reading 303 pages here. And after reading 303 pages, there could be another 100 to 200 pages to catch up on.
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I Have Spoken said:

Why are people buying up bottled water? Are we shutting off the water? This isn't a hurricane.


Because after breathing, it's the fastest thing that you will die without having.
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KorbinDallas said:

I Have Spoken said:

Why are people buying up bottled water? Are we shutting off the water? This isn't a hurricane.


Because after breathing, it's the fastest thing that you will die without having.
Save urine now to recycle later?
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Athanasius said:

Morbid, irrational thoughts follow:

I wonder what life expectancy will look like in the US and world in a decade?
It will probably keep creeping up toward 80.
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wessimo said:


I have one book that says to remember: "Face clean, hands dirty" when talking about pathology.

Supposedly, it's very common for us to get the influenza virus on our hands and that if we touch our face, particularly the eyes, we stand a good chance of becoming infected. You can see why pathologists have to be extra careful.
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Rapier108 said:

Toilet paper actually makes more sense than bottled water.

If you had to stay home for 2-3 weeks, one of the things you absolutely do not want to run out of is toilet paper.
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KorbinDallas said:

I Have Spoken said:

Why are people buying up bottled water? Are we shutting off the water? This isn't a hurricane.


Because after breathing, it's the fastest thing that you will die without having.

Again, is the water being shut off? Honestly, I just can't see how loading up on water is taking so much priority. My tap with a Brita solves this nonissue.
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CDub06 said:

Athanasius said:

Morbid, irrational thoughts follow:

I wonder what life expectancy will look like in the US and world in a decade?
It will probably keep creeping up toward 80.


Already at 78.9
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eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.
Shut up about such things. Mine goes on the market tomorrow. PS it has 11,000 gallons of bottled water.
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eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.


Will Smith in I am Legend had his pick of any house or apartment in an empty New York City free of charge, and no traffic at all whenever he wanted to drive around. I guess some TexAgs Politics posters watched that movie and saw Paradise?
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Shanked Punt said:

Wonder how Costco is going to look on Saturday.
Like a 1988 Moscow state-run bread store.
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eric76 said:

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Its Not Rocket Surgery said:

Here's a nice BBC Reel video on proper hand washing for all of you newly minted hypochondriacs and those recently introduced to the idea of scrubbing after taking a wee.

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p084zgcf/why-you-re-washing-your-hands-wrong
i'm fairly confident that 90% of the men in my building didn't wash their hands. The trash in the bathroom was never full. this past week, the trash has been full of wet paper towels by lunch each day.

I always wash my hands unless there is no place to wash them. (When taking a link on a fence post, there is often no place to wash your hands.) What I hate is washing my hands and then having to open the door to leave with clean hands. It makes me want to wash them again. If they have paper towels, I use the paper towel for the door handle and then toss the paper towel in the trash after the door is open.
I'll wash my hands BEFORE I handle my member, and after. It hasn't been doing much socializing... not getting out of the house much... so it hasn't been exposed to the CV. Now... my hands... they're used quite often, and socially. So a before and after wash... then using a paper towell to exit... is my MO.
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Pumpkinhead said:

eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.


Will Smith in I am Legend had his pick of any house or apartment in an empty New York City free of charge, and no traffic at all whenever he wanted to drive around. I guess some TexAgs Politics posters watched that movie and saw Paradise?


Or they are using logic to foresee a possible change in the market.
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IrishTxAggie said:

CDub06 said:

Athanasius said:

Morbid, irrational thoughts follow:

I wonder what life expectancy will look like in the US and world in a decade?
It will probably keep creeping up toward 80.


Already at 78.9


Better not look at our infant mortality rate though
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lead said:

eric76 said:

WHO is reporting that the mortality rate is 3.4%.
link?
CNBC carried the story. Eric is right.
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I picked up a puking boy from school.


Quarantine!

Vomit sucks
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Athanasius said:

Morbid, irrational thoughts follow:

I wonder what life expectancy will look like in the US and world in a decade?
It is highly likely that over time the virus will mutate to a less dangerous strain. Viruses like corona/rhino/flu mutate often and the longer strains last, generally the less dangerous they become. This is what happened with the 1918 flu. Its descendants are still out there and still making people sick, but they are no longer lethal like they were 100+ years ago.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Athanasius said:

Morbid, irrational thoughts follow:

I wonder what life expectancy will look like in the US and world in a decade?
It is highly likely that over time the virus will mutate to a less dangerous strain. Viruses like corona/rhino/flu mutate often and the longer strains last, the less dangerous they become. This is what happened with the 1918 flu. Its descendants are still out there and still making people sick, but they are no longer lethal like they were 100+ years ago.
When a cell becomes infected with two strains of influenza virus, the strains can recombine to produce a brand new virus. That can happen on farms where pigs and chickens are kept in close proximity. If the chickens get one strain and the pigs another and then an animal gets the other strain, a new virus is very possible.

Of course, many of the recombined strains of influenza viruses don't do much, but occasionally we get one that does survive.

And sometimes, we get a new strain that is very deadly. If I remember correctly, it is thought that the 1918 flu was from a farm in Kansas or Missouri. It was a recombination of other strains.

That's why if a farm has chickens and pigs, they should be kept well apart from each other.
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JJMt said:

New cases are up 20 to 50% today in virtually every country, including India. So much for the theory, or possibly really hope, that warm humid weather would dampen it down. The one outlier is Singapore. What the heck are they doing that no one else is doing? We need to figure that out and copy it as fast as possible.
Singapore has been reporting CV as "viral pneumonia". Their number of viral pneumonia cases have been increasing exponentially.
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daggertx said:

Pumpkinhead said:

eric76 said:

One thing to consider if you are in the market to buy a house, if this hits hard and the death rate is very high, it could easily be a buyer's market in most places a year from now.


Will Smith in I am Legend had his pick of any house or apartment in an empty New York City free of charge, and no traffic at all whenever he wanted to drive around. I guess some TexAgs Politics posters watched that movie and saw Paradise?


Or they are using logic to foresee a possible change in the market.


The Feds lowering interest rates making it potentially easier to refinance or have lower equity loan interest rates down the road isn't a 'possible' change...it is an actual change that just happened. If this virus still affects housing prices coming down then it means the economy is in danger of tanking, just like in 2008. You don't want housing values to generally go down, that is usually no bueno.
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Has Greenland or Madagascar been hit?
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wessimo said:




Hah. Took me a couple times to get this.
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WoMD said:

KorbinDallas said:

I Have Spoken said:

Why are people buying up bottled water? Are we shutting off the water? This isn't a hurricane.


Because after breathing, it's the fastest thing that you will die without having.

Again, is the water being shut off? Honestly, I just can't see how loading up on water is taking so much priority. My tap with a Brita solves this nonissue.

Stocking up on bottled water is an easy, inexpensive insurance policy that can save lives. It is irresponsible NOT to have a week or two supply on hand at all times.
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If I remember correctly, it is thought that the 1918 flu was from a farm in Kansas or Missouri. It was a recombination of other strains.
Haskell County, Kansas, is one of the theories while another is Etaples, France. Both had a large number of soldiers based in the area, and right next to both there were large concentrations of pigs and chickens being raised together.

Other historians/scientists think it came from China (or somewhere else in east Asia) because of the much lower death rate China suffered from the 1918 flu. If it did originate in China, it would have likely happened in 1916 or 1917, and thus the population would have had some acquired immunity already before the virus ramped up to its dangerous strain.

There are various other theories, all of which could be right. Perhaps one day newer tests, samples, and even better genetic analysis will reveal the truth.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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tehmackdaddy said:

WoMD said:

KorbinDallas said:

I Have Spoken said:

Why are people buying up bottled water? Are we shutting off the water? This isn't a hurricane.


Because after breathing, it's the fastest thing that you will die without having.

Again, is the water being shut off? Honestly, I just can't see how loading up on water is taking so much priority. My tap with a Brita solves this nonissue.

Stocking up on bottled water is an easy, inexpensive insurance policy that can save lives. It is irresponsible NOT to have a week or two supply on hand at all times.
I had to use Fiji water for my coffee Friday and Saturday because Houston was on a boil water notice. I also used a much larger amount of Irish cream too...

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Legal Custodian said:

Has Greenland or Madagascar been hit?
Not that has been reported.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Bobcat06 said:

JJMt said:

New cases are up 20 to 50% today in virtually every country, including India. So much for the theory, or possibly really hope, that warm humid weather would dampen it down. The one outlier is Singapore. What the heck are they doing that no one else is doing? We need to figure that out and copy it as fast as possible.
Singapore has been reporting CV as "viral pneumonia". Their number of viral pneumonia cases have been increasing exponentially.


Lmao so they just changed the definition. Classic bull**** government reporting.
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link?

it's one thing to accuse japan or south korea of hiding the deaths, but i'll need to see some proof of Singapore doing that

Singapore is extremely serious about epidemic prevention.
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Viral pneumonia. You mean, like the flu? So now they are counting flu numbers in with coronavirus...

This is all hysterical nonsense.
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Rapier108 said:

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If I remember correctly, it is thought that the 1918 flu was from a farm in Kansas or Missouri. It was a recombination of other strains.
Haskell County, Kansas, is one of the theories while another is Etaples, France. Both had a large number of soldiers based in the area, and right next to both there were large concentrations of pigs and chickens being raised together.

Other historians/scientists think it came from China (or somewhere else in east Asia) because of the much lower death rate China suffered from the 1918 flu. If it did originate in China, it would have likely happened in 1916 or 1917, and thus the population would have had some acquired immunity already before the virus ramped up to its dangerous strain.

There are various other theories, all of which could be right. Perhaps one day newer tests, samples, and even better genetic analysis will reveal the truth.
That's really good information. Thanks.
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