China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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jpd301 said:

AG 2000' said:

Per evening news here in Dallas (not sure what channel the wife had on):

104 people in self-quarantine in Dallas County, 50 in Collin county.


On CBS 11 Sunday or Monday night they mentioned that collin county number and said that it was folks returning from countries like Italy that were self isolating.
Based on the news articles, it appears all of the people who are being monitored are due to returning (mostly from Italy I bet) from overseas and it does not appear anyone is sick.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Mr.Infectious said:


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Whoever is running the ops for the CDC in San Antonio needs to be sent to work in Barrow, Alaska.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Sounds about right.

Maybe they gave that lady a gift card or something...I wonder who paid for the hotel?
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IrishTxAggie said:

Sure is odd that in all the photos/videos of it happening it was to the young people but not the olds that it killed...

Nothing odd. It would be odd if it weren't the young and/or healthy. A weak or compromised immune system can't fight to the point of sudden collapse. The weak system just slowly gets beat down.

Similar to a cytokine response.
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Cheesecake Factory has the largest menu ever created. Who would be offended?
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looking forward to tomorrow's press release that vince young has been fired from his honorary CDC job due to yet another cheesecake factory fiasco
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ac04 said:

looking forward to tomorrow's press release that vince young has been fired from his honorary CDC job due to yet another cheesecake factory fiasco
Quit joking around Cote
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Rapier108 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Sure is odd that in all the photos/videos of it happening it was to the young people but not the olds that it killed...
And as was mentioned much earlier in this thread when similar tweets were posted, why are these people who are sick out roaming around?

Yes, I know the explanation is "they're feeling fine and then BAM!" but I find it hard to believe that one goes from feeling almost completely normal to on the ground in a split second. Sure there can be the random case where something unusual happens, but it just doesn't add up.

And many of the videos from China were later found to have been faked, were old, had no way to verify the content, or were of people who were suffering from other ailments such as cancer. One that I remember seeing here was a man spitting up blood on either a bus or train. People later found the video was over a year old and the man had terminal liver cancer.

I can speak from first hand experience on this. You can very quickly go from feeling perfectly fine, completely unaware there is even an issue, to on the floor trying desperately to knock something over because you cannot physically call for help.

Around 3 minutes in my case.
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Quote:

Amazon's Brazil office building in Seattle, WA
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Amazon names buildings as to be woke

https://blog.aboutamazon.com/amazon-campus/the-surprising-stories-behind-the-peculiar-building-names-at-amazon
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
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Pinche Abogado said:

Amazon names buildings as to be woke

https://blog.aboutamazon.com/amazon-campus/the-surprising-stories-behind-the-peculiar-building-names-at-amazon
Ah. Thanks.
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Don't forget the coronavirus diet:

Pizza
Tortillas
Crackers

In other words, whatever you can slide under the door without opening it.
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IrishTxAggie said:

Source?


There has been multiple twitter reports. Twitter is always suspect, but I think they're true. USA has done very little testing.
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Illuminaggie said:

Rapier108 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Sure is odd that in all the photos/videos of it happening it was to the young people but not the olds that it killed...
And as was mentioned much earlier in this thread when similar tweets were posted, why are these people who are sick out roaming around?

Yes, I know the explanation is "they're feeling fine and then BAM!" but I find it hard to believe that one goes from feeling almost completely normal to on the ground in a split second. Sure there can be the random case where something unusual happens, but it just doesn't add up.

And many of the videos from China were later found to have been faked, were old, had no way to verify the content, or were of people who were suffering from other ailments such as cancer. One that I remember seeing here was a man spitting up blood on either a bus or train. People later found the video was over a year old and the man had terminal liver cancer.

I can speak from first hand experience on this. You can very quickly go from feeling perfectly fine, completely unaware there is even an issue, to on the floor trying desperately to knock something over because you cannot physically call for help.

Around 3 minutes in my case.
And just what experience are you referring to?????
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DSAg44 said:

Cheesecake Factory has the largest menu ever created. Who would be offended?

Deer Cote,

I has been kwaran qaranteen stuck in Sam Antonio but is alrite becaas dey gived me a cheedcak factory kupon certifaket.

Your pal Vints
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AnScAggie said:

Illuminaggie said:

Rapier108 said:

IrishTxAggie said:

Sure is odd that in all the photos/videos of it happening it was to the young people but not the olds that it killed...
Yes, I know the explanation is "they're feeling fine and then BAM!" but I find it hard to believe that one goes from feeling almost completely normal to on the ground in a split second. Sure there can be the random case where something unusual happens, but it just doesn't add up.

I can speak from first hand experience on this. You can very quickly go from feeling perfectly fine, completely unaware there is even an issue, to on the floor trying desperately to knock something over because you cannot physically call for help.

Around 3 minutes in my case.
And just what experience are you referring to?????
Histoplasmosis.

ETA: In reference to the bolded section of the quote. I should have better expressed that this was a personal experience unrelated to COVID directly. My apologies for any confusion.
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flown-the-coop said:

AG 2000' said:

Per evening news here in Dallas (not sure what channel the wife had on):

104 people in self-quarantine in Dallas County, 50 in Collin county.


Flagging. Link an article with information or simply do not post.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/03/dallas-county-monitoring-at-least-100-people-for-possible-coronavirus-health-department-says/

[That's not your call to make--Staff]


Thanks staff.

Sorry I didn't go dig an article out for you. Was in between putting the kids to bed and heading out to the back porch to discuss bug in plans with the neighbors. Clearly Google is still functional so you know it was good data.

Best of luck to you in the coronapocalypse.
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OldAg89er said:

Empty loading docks typically brimming with Chinese manufactured goods imported into U.S.:


https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sAooT_1583234498



Walmart will be a ghost town soon.
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The Fife said:

DSAg44 said:

Cheesecake Factory has the largest menu ever created. Who would be offended?

Deer Cote,

I has been kwaran qaranteen stuck in Sam Antonio but is alrite becaas dey gived me a cheedcak factory kupon certifaket.

Your pal Vints

At the Omaha National Quarantine Unit patients were fed Omaha Steaks!

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID

Departure from the National Quarantine Unit (NQU) is being finalized for a few of the 15 Americans from the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship.

The guests were served a steak dinner Saturday evening, courtesy of Omaha Steaks. Spirits remain high among the guests. Daily virtual town hall meetings for the guests continue with discussion of resilience and coping methods.
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Analogy: Yankees vs Red Sox postponed.
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FamousAgg
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India cases tripled, likely due to Increased testing but still a significant event.
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China now reporting it has mutated.

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Abstract here: https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

For a bit of light reading. Work is rather slow, so I guess I know what I'll be doing for a bit.
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unimboti nkum said:

I would recommend everyone read the rest of the article. You'll note that he's told the time tables multiple times, then when making statements later, appears as though he either didn't listen or forgot what he was told.


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What's remarkable about these exchanges is that Fauci has explained all of this in front of Trump and publicly. At a White House briefing on Thursday, Fauci laid out a detailed timetable for clinical testing and concluded, "So although this is the fastest we have ever gone from a sequence of a virus to a trial, it still would not be applicable to the epidemic unless we really wait about a year to a year and a half."

Trump on Monday eventually relented and set the goal posts at about a year from now. "So can you have it ready for next season, any of you?" he asked. "I mean, would you say, for the next season?"

Several CEOs said they hoped to, but Paul Stoffels, Johnson & Johnson's chief scientific officer, stepped in to clarify, saying: "Yeah. But, like many people said, we have to be very careful here. If you vaccinate several hundred million people "

"You've got to make sure it works," Trump said.

"Works and is safe," Stoffels said. "Yeah."

"And it doesn't hurt," Trump said. "Right."

Eventually, Trump turned to the efficacy of the potential vaccines, and again he seemed unfamiliar with how much is known at this point. He mentioned that seasonal flu vaccines are different every year, but that they are often somewhat ineffective.

"And yet, I hear numbers that are better than that with respect to corona," Trump said. "You think you can really knock it out and that's because you know specifically what it is, I suspect. So that's impressive."

Schleifer clarified that there's still so much that is unknown. And that's when Trump asked about whether they could just use the flu vaccine.

"But the same vaccine could not work?" he said. "You take a solid flu vaccine you don't think that would have an impact or much of an impact on corona?"

"No," Schleifer replied.

"Probably not," Fauci added.

Soon, Trump returned to his preferred months-long timetable. Asked by a reporter whether he's comfortable with this taking longer than that, Trump again sounded as though he hadn't heard everything the CEOs and experts had just told him.

"I don't think they know what the time will be," Trump said. "I've heard very quick numbers a matter of months and I've heard pretty much a year would be an outside number."



Again, Fauci had said a year to 18 months.

"But if you're talking about three to four months, in a couple of cases, and a year in other cases wouldn't you say, doctor, would that be about right?" Trump said.

When a reporter pressed on whether Trump really thought the months-long timetable was viable for a vaccine, Fauci cut in. And he actually asked that the president be educated on the timetable despite it having been told to him repeatedly.

"Would you make sure you get the president the information that a vaccine that you make and start testing in a year is not a vaccine that's deployable," Fauci said. "So he's asking the question, 'When is it going to be deployable?' And that is going to be, at the earliest, a year to a year and a half, no matter how fast you go."

Trump, though, was still skeptical.


"Do you think that's right?" he asked.

Azar emphasized that treatments but not vaccines could be available sooner, and Trump suddenly seemed more interested in that.

"Well, I think treatment, in many ways, might be more exciting," Trump said, adding: "So the treatment, I mean, just for the media so the treatment element of it goes faster than the vaccine element of it, which, in my opinion, in this case, would be better."

How about watching the video the article poorly describes, which is publicly available and only lasts an hour?
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Back to the news...
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First, that article doesn't even hint at what you're claiming. In fact, there are other articles already published that have looked into the sequencing of the virus and have concluded that this is highly probable of being a natural mutation. Stop spreading conjecture and false info.

Second, there is a part in the article you posted that was stunning...

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In light of the high similarity between SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV2, it is quite likely that the potential neuroinvason of SARS-CoV-2 plays an important role in the acute respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients. According to the complaints of a survivor, the medical graduate student (24 years old) from Wuhan University, she must stay awake and breathe consciously and actively during the intensive care. She said that if she fell asleep, she might die because she had lost her natural breath.



That's ****ing terrifying.
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Anyone who has ever had an asthma attack or severe pneumonia/bronchitis knows this feeling.
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