China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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The nursing home is going to be problematic....it's essentially a cruise ship Without all of the water.
Yeah I was just thinking about this too. If I had parents in a nursing facility I would strongly consider taking them out and doing home based care for a few months if possible.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

KidDoc said:

Mr.Infectious said:

The nursing home is going to be problematic....it's essentially a cruise ship Without all of the water.
Yeah I was just thinking about this too. If I had parents in a nursing facility I would strongly consider taking them out and doing home based care for a few months if possible.


How did the people in the nursing home get it since they don't leave the facility?
There is at least one employee who is sick so that is likely how it got in.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Mr.Infectious said:

The nursing home is going to be problematic....it's essentially a cruise ship Without all of the water.
A couple of years ago, my grandmother's nursing home in Katy was in quarantine for all of December due to Norovirus. It was both ridiculous and terrible.
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We may find 14 days is too short a quarantine period. Let's hope not.
Also from that article "The cycle of infection with COVID-19 is not yet well understood, but the amount of virus is typically highest when the person is sickest. As the illness resolves, the amount of virus falls." I've read that is not the case with this and is one of the many characteristics that makes this different and more dangerous - the viral load ( that's sounds so nasty) is the same whether asymptomatic or showing symptoms. It's puzzling researchers because normally the sicker you are, the more contagious you are.
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Big Al 1992 said:

BlackLab said:




We may find 14 days is too short a quarantine period. Let's hope not.
Also from that article "The cycle of infection with COVID-19 is not yet well understood, but the amount of virus is typically highest when the person is sickest. As the illness resolves, the amount of virus falls." I've read that is not the case with this and is one of the many characteristics that makes this different and more dangerous - the viral load ( that's sounds so nasty) is the same whether asymptomatic or showing symptoms. It's puzzling researchers because normally the sicker you are, the more contagious you are.
Almost like it's manufactured.
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Rapier108 said:

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Probably getting too high to handle now.
All they're doing is changing the time frame for what the report covers. They're not changing anything else.


I know. What I mean is that it's going up so much that they have no reason to break it up like this.
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So apparently 9000 of that cult are showing symptoms. Just incredible.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



Probably getting too high to handle now.

I'm no math expert but that looks like a .5% mortality
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For anyone who wants to listen in, KIRO in Seattle will be going live in a few minutes about the coronavirus.

https://www.facebook.com/KIRO7Seattle/

https://www.kiro7.com/video/live-stream/

I assume it will be on their FB page as well as their website, so both links are provided.
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From SA:

Mayor Ron Nirenberg says it's unacceptable that CDC officials released the patient and allowed the public to be exposed:

"The fact that the CDC allowed the public to be exposed to a patient with a positive COVID-19 reading is unacceptable," said Mayor Ron Nirenberg. "We will hold the CDC accountable to providing complete transparency for the public. This situation is exactly why we have been asking for federal officials to accept the guidance of our medical community."

Mayor Nirenberg added, "Our San Antonio Metro Health District and other local officials continue to address the situation with the utmost professionalism and care. We will do everything within our power to ensure that the community is kept safe and the exposure risk remains low. The federal quarantine period for the Diamond Princess cruise ship evacuees ends tomorrow March 2. I have asked the CDC to do everything in their power to ensure that those who are released pose no risk to the community."

Judge Nelson Wolff also issued a statement, saying the city is in need of additional resources and protocols going forward.

"This has been our biggest concern and now we will experience the consequences of no action. Time and time again, I have raised issues concerning evacuees, inappropriate accommodations, the risk of exposure during transporting and the need for additional monitoring and extended quarantine periods. I issued a letter on February 18th relating our concerns and then a joint letter with the Mayor on February 24th. To date, no response or even acknowledgement of our concerns has been made," said Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff.

Judge Wolff added, "Our federal representatives, the CDC, and the US Department of Defense cannot and should not ignore us now. We are in dire need of additional resources and protocols immediately to include longer quarantine periods and the opening of appropriate facilities such as the Alabama facility or the San Antonio Military Medical Center. Please do not delay any longer and risk local transmission."
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Mr.Infectious said:

I can't keep up anymore.....this story is moving insanely fast. It's only been 42 days from OP. Seems like an eternity.


I know, just jerking your chain...
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The Debt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Probably getting too high to handle now.

I'm no math expert but that looks like a .5% mortality


Shhh that doesn't fit his doom m gloom scenario
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They are just living up to the name "doomsday cult".


"You really want doomsday? I'll show you MF'ing doomsday" - Old Testament God
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



So apparently 9000 of that cult are showing symptoms. Just incredible.


I believe other churches are having to hire security and only let in registered members because this cult is actively trying to spread the virus.

They should be labeled terrorist group for that bull*****..
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Don't know jack about SK religious practices but seems like this cult could really set back Christians in that country?
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Daughters big work conference in California was just cancelled. Folks from across country were going.
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aginlakeway said:

Shanked Punt said:

This doesn't give me much confidence in our ability to contain this. Presumably the viral load was too low to detect, or the tests are crap. Probably both.


What would give you confidence?
A democrat President (for Shanked I mean)
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YouBet said:

Don't know jack about SK religious practices but seems like this cult could really set back Christians in that country?


They believe their leader is the second coming of Christ, they are way out there...
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It's all good. I was serious, it's difficult to stay on top of all of this.

And the scary thing is, this is just getting rolling still. Some sources are predicting this is going to be a 2-3 year process, not 6-8months like most people are hoping.
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coastsrs said:

The Debt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



Probably getting too high to handle now.

I'm no math expert but that looks like a .5% mortality


Shhh that doesn't fit his doom m gloom scenario



That's not how it works. Would you call this a 20% death rate? No, because that's just the numbers from a given day...



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Quote:

"At the time of discharge from the facility, the patient was asymptomatic and met all of CDC's criteria for release resolution of any symptoms and two consecutive sets of negative test results, collected more than 24 hours apart," CDC stated. "Following the patient's release, results of a subsequent sample were received, and determined to be weakly positive. Out of an abundance of caution, CDC decided to bring the individual back into isolation at a local medical facility."
The CDC is going to have to increase their quarantine over 14 days. I'm surprised it's not longer already.
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Shanghai stock market opened 2% higher today. Looks like the central banks are starting their EpiPen to the heart liquidity injections to print their way out of this.....
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I'm no math expert but that looks like a .5% mortality
To get a more accurate rate, use the number of cases at 5 to 7 days ago as the denominator.......602 to 977.

That would yield 2.2% to 3.7%. Right in line with Chinese research studies.
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Most of the beans you put in chili, outside of Texas, were gone.

There's no beans in chili and it doesn't matter where you are
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Dead should be measured against the case number 4-12 days ago.
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This virus can decimate nursing homes, they need to seriously think about cutting down on visitation in these facilities. Could be a horrible outcome if it makes it into these places.
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Why does it help to ban travel to California now when it's expected to start having positive tests in every state soon? The virus is already here?
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What do they do with the staff? Pay them triple and have them live on site?
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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PJYoung said:





https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/



So business forum showing 7,000 more cases recovered than announced over last 4 days. Any chance the site shows this data as well?
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30wedge said:

Fizban said:

Meanwhile...



If we are all going to die from this virus, just go bareback
They sell condoms at Costco?
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Two presumed cases in the Tampa Bay, Florida area.

One traveled to Italy, the other they haven't said if the person has been out of the country, except to say they have not been to a country with travel bans/restrictions.

https://www.wfla.com/news/breaking-news/2-people-presumptively-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-in-manatee-hillsborough-co/

I'm going to bet that in the end, other than Seattle, most cases in the US will be traced to Italy and a few to Iran.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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flakrat said:

30wedge said:

Fizban said:

Meanwhile...



If we are all going to die from this virus, just go bareback
They sell condoms at Costco?
Buy low, sell high.
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Oh, goodie. I'm getting Online ads for N95 respirators. Guess it had to happen sooner or later as much time as I've spent on this thread lately.
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