Law schools?

How open is Foxconn? Couple weeks ago they were only at 30%.

Still waiting for Nuclear to defend his comment about no manufacturing and no shipping going on right now...

Been following this thing since the beginning. Just haven't posted until now.

Thought this was worth sharing.

https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/coronavirus-fatality-rate-or-death-percentage-the-most-accurate-estimate-817752/

Thoughts?

My prepping has been primarily to beat the panic. I have been able to pick and choose the things I have stocked up on without really stressing about it.

I figure if we are all going to get sick, there is little I can do to prevent it. But I don't want to have to go to the grocery store with 103 degree fever either. We can ride it out for several weeks without having to stress much about what we are going to eat.

3.5% death rate...

Foxconn can open its factories all it wants. But the demand for consumer electronics is going to crater in the coming months.

claym711 said:

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https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyse-could-close-trading-floor-in-coronavirus-contingency

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The NYSE ran some BCP tests this weekend and asked connected firms to prepare to work remotely. Not very many people actually work on the floor nowadays and much of those that do can do the same job from a different location. The street and exchanges learned their lesson after 9/11 and the blackout a year or two later.

MaroonStain said:

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3.5% death rate...

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That high?

Logistically I don't think much impact, but another nugget of what's going to go on with the economy.

daggertx said:

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MaroonStain said:

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3.5% death rate...

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That high?

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It's at the higher end of the spectrum of estimates but not an outlier. No one really knows what the real death rate is yet.

daggertx said:

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MaroonStain said:

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3.5% death rate...

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That high?

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By comparison flu is 0.1%. So yes. It's high. Is it Ebola high? No but this is apparently a LOT more transmissible.

aezmvp said:

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daggertx said:

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MaroonStain said:

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3.5% death rate...

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That high?

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By comparison flu is 0.1%. So yes. It's high. Is it Ebola high? No but this is apparently a LOT more transmissible.

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I realize that. My comment was surprise because I had been seeing 1 maybe 2%

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I like how the response of normies is to immediately go to the most crowded place imaginable to panic buy. Listen to the guy coughing here, in a pandemic, all this does is spread more disease

Edit - This is why you pay attention and prepare beforehand or you go at off hours. For instance, go to the grocery store at 10 pm on a week night. There is no one there and they are stocking the shelves.

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At Costco at least get a bunch of samples!

daggertx said:

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aezmvp said:

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daggertx said:

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MaroonStain said:

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3.5% death rate...

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That high?

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By comparison flu is 0.1%. So yes. It's high. Is it Ebola high? No but this is apparently a LOT more transmissible.

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I realize that. My comment was surprised because I had been seeing 1 maybe 2%

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It's under 1% outside of China I believe.

...and a real prepper would take the samples, wrap in paper towels and save for the pending doom...

Really hope they are keeping close tabs on the cruise ship group. That should be the best indicator of death rate because the actual denominator is known. Also probably a decent high end estimate for percentage of a population in close quarters likely to become infected

McDonald's and Waffle House will always be open

I can see zombies being able to run a McD

planoaggie123 said:

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...and a real prepper would take the samples, wrap in paper towels and save for the pending doom...

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Frugal mom approved

Civil.Savage said:

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Only as long as people show up to plants. If coal plants stop making power nuclear plants go to diesel backup. Once that runs out cooling systems fail.

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???? What?

BigN--00 said:

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Been following this thing since the beginning. Just haven't posted until now.

Thought this was worth sharing.

https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/coronavirus-fatality-rate-or-death-percentage-the-most-accurate-estimate-817752/

Thoughts?

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Bad math. You can't just divide deaths by number of cases as the disease is growing exponentially. Deaths will lag cases by 5 to 7 days or more.

VaultingChemist said:

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BigN--00 said:

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Been following this thing since the beginning. Just haven't posted until now.

Thought this was worth sharing.

https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/coronavirus-fatality-rate-or-death-percentage-the-most-accurate-estimate-817752/

Thoughts?

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Bad math. You can't just divide deaths by number of cases as the disease is growing exponentially. Deaths will lag cases by 5 to 7 days or more.

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Yeah but how DO you do it properly? The number of unreported cases is probably badly skewing the result as well.

GE said:

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VaultingChemist said:

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BigN--00 said:

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Been following this thing since the beginning. Just haven't posted until now.

Thought this was worth sharing.

https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/coronavirus-fatality-rate-or-death-percentage-the-most-accurate-estimate-817752/

Thoughts?

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Bad math. You can't just divide deaths by number of cases as the disease is growing exponentially. Deaths will lag cases by 5 to 7 days or more.

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Yeah but how DO you do it properly? The number of unreported cases is probably badly skewing the result as well.

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You're correct but the number of deaths that have been or will be attributable to something else (say generic pneumonia) are a factor as well. Likely the most "accurate" guess will be a very difficult problem for statisticians for years to come.

k2aggie07 said:

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Civil.Savage said:

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Only as long as people show up to plants. If coal plants stop making power nuclear plants go to diesel backup. Once that runs out cooling systems fail.

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Yep they just fail, hundreds of nuclear meltdowns!!!!


Or they just shut them down

But a nuclear plant makes its own power. It doesn't need a coal plant or a diesel backup unless the actual nuclear generation is turned off. Just nonsense.

Question:

If summer coming will wipe this out, does that explain the very low incidence rates in Australia, South America, and Southern Africa?

Follow up:

What prevents these countries from having big outbreaks as they enter fall and winter?

Nuclear plants use power to run their systems. They do not produce energy for their own consjmption. So the reactors cooling systems for example. Or the systems you would use to shutdown the reactor....

So coal plants can output power for maybe 4 days without human input. The auotmatic coal loaders would just run out of coal.

The NP's would receive prioritt for energy if people are prepared. And could shutdown reactors safely. But worst case scenario if no one is going to coal plants or NP. About 30 days till a lot of ***a

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Anyone have good lists of food/items they are stocking up on? Gonna make a Sams run in a bit

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Sams club
- 25lb bag rice
Green bean/ corn casescome out to .50 a can
Canned chicken breast / tuna
Water -large case of individual bottles for 3$ or 6 gallons 3$ - either one comes to .004 per oz.
Ibuprofen/ tylenol large quantity in makers mark brand
Nitrile gloves 400 ct 15$
Powdered milk
Spaghettj o's
Spam 8 pk

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Large size assorted frozen veggies.
Dried beans/peas.
Bulk frozen fish, chicken, sausage.
Butternut squash, onions, potatoes. (Will keep a long time if not mishandled.)

A bunch of flour. (I bake bread and make pizza dough.)

All of these things are stuff we will end up eating anyway but that keep so long we can easily keep a good stock on hand.

Thats they key people overlook. Buy **** you or kids eat anyway and consider it a diet. If you eat dont need to be trapped in your hpuse. Eat it anyway and use the money saved on future food purchases for hookers and blow.

Every man dies,

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Serious question - why is everyone buying food like we are about to lose electric or run out of clean water?

Shouldn't we be stocking the deep freeze with real meat, etc?

I get non perishables but it seems a bit overboard on the water supply and lack of other things for the fridge / freezer.

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Agree on water... I always have some as part of general preparedness but I don't understand why people are filling shopping carts with bottled water.

A far smarter prepping move is to buy collapsible water storage that you can fill with water if you really think you need to hoard water.

If the water/power goes off no city will be livable past 3-4 days.