The disease is out in the wild and no one knows where transmission is happening now.

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I recommend this book....

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I actually just picked this up during lunch today. Kinda funny to log in here and see it being talked about, and I'm glad I kept the receipt

Does anyone actually have the toothbrush?

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This is why I bought a PAPR...

If I run out of cartridges I guess I'll shave and use my p100 filters.

I am so glad that I bought that Swiss gas mask and extra filters (NATO interchangeable) ten years ago. NBC protection includes the cheap. It will look strange to wear in public.

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Only 433 new cases and 29 deaths in China, vast majority in Wuhan. China finally has this under control.

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Would you be interested in some oceanfront property that I have for sale?

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So an hour after Trump says they might find more cases, guess what? CDC announces the first case in someone without travel history or known exposure (a.k.a. "community transmission").

Get ready for many more.

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CA case is in Solano County, CA.

Guess what else is in Solano County, CA?

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Travis AFB, quarantine location for the Wuhan flight (and a couple others).

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And they also said it is possible he was infected by a traveler. They have to do more checking to trace back his contacts.

Also, he's been in the hospital for a week so that backs up the time he could have been infected to make it somewhat more possible it was from a traveler rather than someone else who is local.

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True. Just suspicious on the surface as it's the same location as the quarantine.

I'm sure they are looking into the person's background -

1. Did they work at the base?
2. Did they work in some sort of company that provided services to the base?
3. Friend/family that was on the base helping with the quarantine?

etc.

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Only 433 new cases and 29 deaths in China, vast majority in Wuhan. China finally has this under control.

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Which is it? Last week it was holy **** the Chinese numbers are going up, more deaths, etc.. This week the numbers start to go down and it can't be trusted. You can't have it both ways

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AG 2000' said:

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So an hour after Trump says they might find more cases, guess what? CDC announces the first case in someone without travel history or known exposure (a.k.a. "community transmission").

Get ready for many more.

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CA case is in Solano County, CA.

Guess what else is in Solano County, CA?

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Travis AFB, quarantine location for the Wuhan flight (and a couple others).

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And they also said it is possible he was infected by a traveler. They have to do more checking to trace back his contacts.

Also, he's been in the hospital for a week so that backs up the time he could have been infected to make it somewhat more possible it was from a traveler rather than someone else who is local.

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True. Just suspicious on the surface as it's the same location as the quarantine.

I'm sure they are looking into the person's background -

1. Did they work at the base?
2. Did they work in some sort of company that provided services to the base?
3. Friend/family that was on the base helping with the quarantine?

etc.

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Exactly, which is why certain people screaming "IT'S IN THE WILD" is premature at best, and attempting to incite a panic at worst, but par for the course around here.

They should have tested him earlier, or at least done a flu test to rule that out, and then test for the coronavirus, but apparently his symptoms didn't seem to indicate it could be. That's one problem with all diseases, even nasty ones like Ebola. Different people present symptoms in different ways which can at times make diagnosis difficult.

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Only 433 new cases and 29 deaths in China, vast majority in Wuhan. China finally has this under control.

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Which is it? Last week it was holy **** the Chinese numbers are going up, more deaths, etc.. This week the numbers start to go down and it can't be trusted. You can't have it both ways

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Agreed. They want to panic. Same people that hope for hurricanes to make land fall so they can partake in doom n gloom.

We can't trust the numbers, the virus is roaming the streets rampantly even here in the US. However, no one besides the dudes cruise ship olderly friends, even knows anyone sick.

Reminds me of the climate crisis champions. I come here to read if the zombies have started walking the streets yet.

From this morning....

Sine poena nulla lex.

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Only 433 new cases and 29 deaths in China, vast majority in Wuhan. China finally has this under control.

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Which is it? Last week it was holy **** the Chinese numbers are going up, more deaths, etc.. This week the numbers start to go down and it can't be trusted. You can't have it both ways

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It's that way every single day around here.

"Can't trust anything out of China." Proceeds to use numbers of out of China to calculate some outrageous death rate.

Numbers go down. "Can't trust anything out of China, it's skyrocketing!"

Numbers go up. ""Can't trust anything out of China, millions dead!"

The only thing they would believe would be if China came out and said the death toll was in the millions. Anything less would still be called a coverup

Not sure who you're referencing. My belief has been that the CCP has consistently UNDERreported since day 1. I still believe this is the case.

You admit that you don't trust the Chinese and yet post their data? Why post data you don't trust? You may as well be posting articles from the National Enquirer.

Saw a lady buy a whole cart full of Clorox wipes today at Kroger, both brand name and store brand. She must have had 50 containers. She had cleaned out the entire shelf.

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Saw a lady buy a whole cart full of Clorox wipes today at Kroger, both brand name and store brand. She must have had 50 containers. She had cleaned out the entire shelf.

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You should have loudly boooed her.

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Saw a lady buy a whole cart full of Clorox wipes today at Kroger, both brand name and store brand. She must have had 50 containers. She had cleaned out the entire shelf.

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Is it theft if you grab something out of someone's cart before they pay?

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Saw a lady buy a whole cart full of Clorox wipes today at Kroger, both brand name and store brand. She must have had 50 containers. She had cleaned out the entire shelf.

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Probably someone from this thread

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Saw a lady buy a whole cart full of Clorox wipes today at Kroger, both brand name and store brand. She must have had 50 containers. She had cleaned out the entire shelf.

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. Seems like the least effective and most costly way to hoarse disinfectant.

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Which is it? Last week it was holy **** the Chinese numbers are going up, more deaths, etc.. This week the numbers start to go down and it can't be trusted. You can't have it both ways

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It's that way every single day around here.

"Can't trust anything out of China." Proceeds to use numbers of out of China to calculate some outrageous death rate.

Numbers go down. "Can't trust anything out of China, it's skyrocketing!"

Numbers go up. ""Can't trust anything out of China, millions dead!"

The only thing they would believe would be if China came out and said the death toll was in the millions. Anything less would still be called a coverup

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Our own government doesn't believe their numbers. No one does.

It is clearly obvious that China would under report actual cases and over report recoveries....you can have it both ways.


Also, IMHO 500 cases across the US already MINIMUM....two week roll out to slow panic.

After the 1000 maker hits (3 weeks to 1 month) we will see what happens and if we are in government sanctioned quarantines.

As I have stated multiple times. the military is involved in this and there is no way we know the truth...neither does the CDC.

Trump put on his best lying face yet...which is ok, because he has been practicing. Just hope he knows how to handle this fall out...

I am a Trump fan by the way.

IF we have 500 cases today, we hit 1000 much sooner than 3 weeks from now.

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IF we have 500 cases today, we hit 1000 much sooner than 3 weeks from now.

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My apologies. "They" will "test" and "announce" 1000 cases. "They" won't even really know.

It's always going to be two weeks away.

San Diego actually released suspected cases earlier this week. The internet is making this much bigger in your heads

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It is clearly obvious that China would under report actual cases and over report recoveries....you can have it both ways.


Also, IMHO 500 cases across the US already MINIMUM....two week roll out to slow panic.

After the 1000 maker hits (3 weeks to 1 month) we will see what happens and if we are in government sanctioned quarantines.

As I have stated multiple times. the military is involved in this and there is no way we know the truth...neither does the CDC.

Trump put on his best lying face yet...which is ok, because he has been practicing. Just hope he knows how to handle this fall out...

I am a Trump fan by the way.

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This was the first speech Trump has given where he looked unsure. First time I've ever seen him like that. Not a good sign.

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It's always going to be two weeks away.

San Diego actually released suspected cases earlier this week. The internet is making this much bigger in your heads

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It's just the flu!

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As I have stated multiple times. the military is involved in this and there is no way we know the truth...neither does the CDC.

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You have stated this multiple times. I think I'm either misunderstanding you, missing something, or probably both, but how does the military being involved mean there is no way we know the truth. Furthermore, and most importantly, how does the military being involved mean the CDC doesn't know the truth?

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Probably someone from this thread

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It wasn't me. I am a meat popsicle

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scottimus said:

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It is clearly obvious that China would under report actual cases and over report recoveries....you can have it both ways.


Also, IMHO 500 cases across the US already MINIMUM....two week roll out to slow panic.

After the 1000 maker hits (3 weeks to 1 month) we will see what happens and if we are in government sanctioned quarantines.

As I have stated multiple times. the military is involved in this and there is no way we know the truth...neither does the CDC.

Trump put on his best lying face yet...which is ok, because he has been practicing. Just hope he knows how to handle this fall out...

I am a Trump fan by the way.

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This was the first speech Trump has given where he looked unsure. First time I've ever seen him like that. Not a good sign.

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IMHO he didn't look unsure so much as serious...

I was wondering who the first one was going to be that brought up martial law.

Not surprised at all.

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It's always going to be two weeks away.

San Diego actually released suspected cases earlier this week. The internet is making this much bigger in your heads

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#wearetwoweeksago

#reinfection

#falsenegatives

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334 new cases and 1 death in South Korea. The number of confirmed cases is expected to jump in the coming days as health authorities have started testing more than 210,000 members of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu, attended by the 31st case (a possible "super spreader") and which accounts for more than half of the country's 1,595 total cases to date. [source]

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569 new infections outside of China today

Probably looking at over 800 easily tomorrow with over 500 in South Korea.