Regarding Singapore, it is hot and humid here year round as we're 1 degree above the equator. Lee Kuan Yiew, the "founder" of Singapore, attributed the country's success (partially) to the invention of air conditioning.

Got enough coffee to last a couple of years.








Disclaimer: Although I took this picture, the coffee belonged to the estate of an older lady who I think was worried about Y2K.
This only depicts about half of her hoard of coffee.
Moral of this picture is that people panic easily, and make irrational decisions.

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The Summer Olympics in Tokyo will be interesting. That's a metric crap ton of money and a lot of people crammed in a lot of very closed in venues. Plus housing and travel. I would not be shocked to see them cancelled.

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Some of you forget, virus transmission rates decline dramatically once the weather warms up. They can't stay alive on warm surfaces for very long at all. Warm weather basically killed SARS.

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Aren't the temperatures in Singapore 80-85 degrees? Admittedly, they don't have a count like China or SK, nobody does, but it doesn't seem quite as sensitive to warm temperatures as SARS. According to China's CDC, "In higher temperatures, its resistance declines, but the temperature affects only the virus' survival time, not its ability to infect, the center says." https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Will-warm-weather-kill-new-coronavirus-Scientists-not-sure

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It's ability to infect will always remain constant. But humid air means it just doesn't stay in the air where people can breathe it in as long.

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So we need to turn off our AC and open the windows this spring/summer.

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Champ Bailey said:

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mathguy86 said:

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The Summer Olympics in Tokyo will be interesting. That's a metric crap ton of money and a lot of people crammed in a lot of very closed in venues. Plus housing and travel. I would not be shocked to see them cancelled.

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Some of you forget, virus transmission rates decline dramatically once the weather warms up. They can't stay alive on warm surfaces for very long at all. Warm weather basically killed SARS.

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Aren't the temperatures in Singapore 80-85 degrees? Admittedly, they don't have a count like China or SK, nobody does, but it doesn't seem quite as sensitive to warm temperatures as SARS. According to China's CDC, "In higher temperatures, its resistance declines, but the temperature affects only the virus' survival time, not its ability to infect, the center says." https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Will-warm-weather-kill-new-coronavirus-Scientists-not-sure

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It's ability to infect will always remain constant. But humid air means it just doesn't stay in the air where people can breathe it in as long.

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So we need to turn off our AC and open the windows this spring/summer.

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The answer there is, it depends. What you want is as little air circulating around the room as possible with reasonably humid air. You get other bacteria and mold that grows when you don't control your air temperature and humidity, so that's something to consider as well. Here's a good chart for that:

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Like I said, I'd leave the AC on, and if you are really worried about it, pick up a couple of cheap humidifiers in rooms where you and your family spend the most time in. Wash your hands like crazy, clean your phone and steering wheel regularly, and avoid touching your face.

I work in HVAC, and we have recently been marketing these type of products to schools and hospitals to prevent transmission of disease. The idea is that the air is coming out of the device as slow as possible from the ground level, providing as slow and laminar of a flow as possible. As the air hits your body, it warms it up, causing it and any pollutants to rise to the top of the room where the return duct is located. An in depth summary is provided at the link below.

https://www.titus-hvac.com/file/9915/displacement_guidelines2018.pdf

Now these aren't used for residential, because they cost much more than any typical residential grille and they work best in areas with high ceiling spaces, but it's a pretty cool product, and just thought I'd share.

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Pandemic declared within 2 weeks, is my guess.

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Too broad, gone us a date...

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Now these aren't used for residential, because they cost much more than any typical residential grille and they work best in areas with high ceiling spaces, but it's a pretty cool product, and just thought I'd share.

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Great info. Thank you for that.

Oh and most importantly, get your damn flu shot!

Champ Bailey said:

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Oh and most importantly, get your damn flu shot!

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Apparently it is NOT a happy hour special, it's a vaccine.

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Champ Bailey said:

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Oh and most importantly, get your damn flu shot!

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Apparently it is NOT a happy hour special, it's a vaccine.

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I was aware of that, but are you saying the flu shot won't even mitigate symptoms? I didn't realize that.

I linked an article on another thread that said a res search department at Texas has successfully mapped the new virus protein in the past two weeks. So I think a vaccine is coming, albeit not early enough.

Champ Bailey said:

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Oh and most importantly, get your damn flu shot!

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Apparently it is NOT a happy hour special, it's a vaccine.

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I was aware of that, but are you saying the flu shot won't even mitigate symptoms? I didn't realize that.

I linked an article on another thread that said a res search department at Texas has successfully mapped the new virus protein in the past two weeks. So I think a vaccine is coming, albeit not early enough.

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I was joking that the flu shot wasnt actually a shot of liquor

The #s aren't updating like I expected this afternoon. Maybe a Sunday thing? Not sure.

I'll give it another hour before posting the chart.

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Regarding Singapore, it is hot and humid here year round as we're 1 degree above the equator. Lee Kuan Yiew, the "founder" of Singapore, attributed the country's success (partially) to the invention of air conditioning.

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Houston says 'hi'

Interesting to see the New York Post run an article questioning the origins of the virus.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/

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The most recent chart I've seen shows recoveries exceeding new cases. Does this mean Coronavirus has peaked or is the data sketchy enough that those types of conclusions can't be made yet?

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Way too early to say it's peaked. Assuming any of the data from China can be trusted (it can't), it may have peaked in China. However, it seems to be exploding anew in Italy, Iran, Japan, and South Korea.

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Exactly.

Singapore is interesting in that it looked like it was gonna explode and now they SEEM to have it under control. The whole 2 week lag time probably throws that off tho.

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Interesting to see the New York Post run an article questioning the origins of the virus.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/

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I really don't believe much that comes out of China.

South Korea on high alert, total cases top 600

South Korea's government raised the COVID-19 alert to its highest level after a recent implosion of confirmed infection cases, which took the country's tally from 31 as of Feb. 18 to 602 on Sunday. Many of the new cases were from the city of Daegu and were related to a homegrown religious group, Yonhap reported. At least five people have died from the virus, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/24/coronavirus-live-updates-china-south-korea-cases.html

329 of these cases tied to a the same church
https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200223000958320?section=national/national

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South Korea on high alert, total cases top 600

South Korea's government raised the COVID-19 alert to its highest level after a recent implosion of confirmed infection cases, which took the country's tally from 31 as of Feb. 18 to 602 on Sunday. Many of the new cases were from the city of Daegu and were related to a homegrown religious group, Yonhap reported. At least five people have died from the virus, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/24/coronavirus-live-updates-china-south-korea-cases.html

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Story I heard from folks stationed there is a lady who was infected checked herself out of the hospital to attend church and infected a whole bunch of people.

Many of the bases there have been placed on full lockdown.

That seems normal

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Does anyone find it interesting that the progression of growth has been China -> Iran -> Italy ->?

I mean I know we have Japan, Sig, N/S Korea, Vietnam in the middle, but it is weird that this progression follows hygiene?

Am I saying Italians are dirty?...no, it's just weird. Lol.

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Isn't kissing as a greeting very common in Italy? I don't remember seeing it while I was there, but I was on business.

Kissing as a greeting is very normal in many parts of Europe, whether it is business or just friends.

I was listening to Doctor Radio on XM Radio. They said the virus favors cold weather over warm to hot weather.

I guess we will have to wait and see. It still doesn't fill like the threat is over.

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763 is right

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Does anyone find it interesting that the progression of growth has been China -> Iran -> Italy ->?

I mean I know we have Japan, Sig, N/S Korea, Vietnam in the middle, but it is weird that this progression follows hygiene?

Am I saying Italians are dirty?...no, it's just weird. Lol.

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Interesting thought I had at Church Today....

In countries where religion is banned, Christianity is growing enormously.

In countries like ours with a lot of tolerance, Christianity is dying.

China has a ton of missionaries that go the Middle East.

Iran is now suffering from an epidemic.

South Korea's epidemic is likely from a Church. Clearly mass gatherings further the transfer.

Coincidence, I think not. Think about the passing of the plates and Communion. Virus transfer central.

I'm still kind of shocked that the African continent is so quite.

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I'm still kind of shocked that the African continent is so quite.

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They are barely testing for it.

Yikes

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Yikes

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OK that might be a few days old but read this:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3051422/who-sends-coronavirus-test-kits-african-nations-after-first

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Until about two weeks ago, there were only two laboratories in the continent of 54 countries in Senegal and South Africa with the reagents needed to test for the virus. That meant dozens of nations that had quarantined suspected patients were sending samples to South Africa or Senegal to be tested.

The WHO earlier this week sent reagent kits for coronavirus diagnosis to more than 20 countries in Africa to step up diagnosis of the virus, which causes a disease now known as Covid-19. The global health body said more countries in Africa were expected to receive testing kits this week.

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Holy crap that is nuts!!

If we don't test, how do we know how many cases are in the U.S.?

What is the uptick in Flu this year has just been Covid-19 and they haven't been telling us?