scottimus said:

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unmade bed said:

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scottimus said:

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Isn't Japan a very clean society? As in like Singapore clean? I don't think they even shake hands there...

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https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51534696/thousands-celebrate-japan-s-naked-festival

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Common,

That's too easy...just google NY subway rush hour.


ACL 2019 for you here


But does Japan have this?...


NY Homless Subway..



Better yet..Austin Homelessness




Besides, I asked if Japan was cleaner? If anything that subway picture of their "men with gloves" would indicate yes...

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Point being, and I've said this for years, it doesnt matter how "clean" you are, a virus is gonna thrive in environments where a ****ton of people are stacked on top of each other.

As for the naked festival pic, I saw an article about it yesterday on CvfNN. The headline right above was something like "How will Japan prevent spread of Coronovirus?" Then very next story was "1000s gather in Japan for Naked Festival" with that pic. I was thinking "not like that"

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2015/09/11/like-a-swimming-pool-chinese-netizens-amazed-at-cleanliness-of-japanese-flood-waters/

No idea really about the Japanese people but their cities are very clean. So much so that when a subway floods it looks like a swimming pool not a toilet.

Another 31 in South Korea...

That is 51 new cases in 24 hours for South Korea.

What's the general thinking for the (so far) lack of spread in non-Asian countries? Better containment? Delayed infection? Lack of reliable testing/reporting? Some combination of all 3? I'm genuinely curious why we haven't seen pockets of outbreaks happen elsewhere in the world.

BowSowy said:

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What's the general thinking for the (so far) lack of spread in non-Asian countries? Better containment? Delayed infection? Lack of reliable testing/reporting? Some combination of all 3? I'm genuinely curious why we haven't seen pockets of outbreaks happen elsewhere in the world.

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Hygiene and population density

VaultingChemist said:

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That is 51 new cases in 24 hours for South Korea.

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That's roughly triple in 24 hours, will be interesting to see what's next.

It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




54E

What is the source for the information on the incinerators? I would like to read about it. I could see some legitimate use for those like burning the huge amounts of medical waste, the stuff being pulled from infected homes/dorms that we saw a few days ago.

The China numbers don't make sense, they fell off far too quickly in my opinion. Their actions continue to not make sense with what they are reporting.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

I'm getting product shipments out of Shenzhen through Hong Kong now. Though it's limited to highly automated production items. The more labor intensive items are still indefinitely delayed - they're clearly running on a skeleton crew.

flakrat said:

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

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NTD reports that the cabins are for the disposal of animal carcasses, while China Ship news reports the incinerators are for medical waste.

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Where does it say it's for burning corpses?

flakrat said:

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

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Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!

IrishTxAggie said:

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Provide a credible link or crawl back into your bunker gripping your MREs

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Reported in the Chinese media and echoed in media reports in the U.S. and the U.K.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-deploys-40-mobile-incinerators-wuhan-report

You mean retreat to my ranch and have a steak....

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

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NTD reports that the cabins are for the disposal of animal carcasses, while China Ship news reports the incinerators are for medical waste.

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Where does it say it's for burning corpses?

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Just passing on the link (only one I could find other than Zero Hedge) that mentions bringing in mobile incinerators. No idea what they are using them for.

Zero hedge =/= Credible

Gotcha

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flakrat said:

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-deploys-40-incinerators-wuhan-21529067

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NTD reports that the cabins are for the disposal of animal carcasses, while China Ship news reports the incinerators are for medical waste.

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Where does it say it's for burning corpses?

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Duh.

Occum's razor on the former, Darwinian Theory on the latter.

IrishTxAggie said:

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Zero hedge =/= Credible

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Said the one with a degree in sophistry....

Daily Star too, dunno what their rep is..

OldAg89er said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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Provide a credible link or crawl back into your bunker gripping your MREs

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Reported in the Chinese media and echoed in media reports in the U.S. and the U.K.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-deploys-40-mobile-incinerators-wuhan-report

You mean retreat to my ranch and have a steak....

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Yep... if this crap hits here... head out to the ranch for 5-6 months ... shoot some deer, maybe a calf and watch these cities go nuts ! Get away from the masses

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Daily Star too, dunno what their rep is..

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54E.

BowSowy said:

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What's the general thinking for the (so far) lack of spread in non-Asian countries? Better containment? Delayed infection? Lack of reliable testing/reporting? Some combination of all 3? I'm genuinely curious why we haven't seen pockets of outbreaks happen elsewhere in the world.

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Slow playing testing results until we can learn more from our allies over there.

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It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




54E

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As i mentioned, china NORMALLY cremates a million people per month. So what does it take for this kind of *****

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AUSTIN, Texas - Researchers from the University of Texas at Austin and the National Institutes of Health have made a critical breakthrough toward developing a vaccine for the 2019 novel coronavirus, according to a UT Austin press release.

According to the University, researchers were able to create the first 3D atomic-scale map of the part of the virus that attaches to human cells and infects a patient. "Mapping this part, called the spike protein, is an essential step so researchers around the world can develop vaccines and antiviral drugs to combat the virus," the press release stated.

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https://www.fox7austin.com/news/ut-austin-makes-breakthrough-in-coronavirus-research-supports-vaccine-design

cbr said:

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OldAg89er said:

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It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




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As i mentioned, china NORMALLY cremates a million people per month. So what does it take for this kind of *****

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And they are now cremating a larger demand, so much so, they need more incinerators in Wuhan.

People are welded into their apartments.

The sick disappear in large numbers at night, never to be seen again.

Apartment buildings that normally house 3,000 are standing virtually empty.

The Internet has been turned off across China.

Medical personnel are getting sick and dying.

Infected show no signs for up to 4 weeks, then many mildly get sick, then 2-3 weeks later die from pneumonia or a sudden heart attack. Think about that: more than 7 weeks from infection to death, with severe illness only at the end. Lives on surfaces for up to 9 days.

Military grade weapon designed to exhaust the resources of the enemy while expanding killing fields exponentially.

Question is: what is the mortality rate 8 weeks post infection? 10 weeks?

54E.

NYPost Reporting!

https://nypost.com/2020/02/19/whistleblower-doctors-say-coronavirus-reinfection-even-deadlier/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&fbclid=IwAR2Xis2i2FjoAwZ0jUPh_xqvMNzDj9-YcZDBfK3JvEtJHLkFSnKEHrg33qk

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Whistleblower doctors say coronavirus reinfection even deadlier


Chinese doctors sounding the alarm on the coronavirus say the illness could be even deadlier for patients who catch it again, according to a report.

The whistleblowing physicians working to fight the virus in Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, revealed medically-cleared patients have been getting reinfected, the Taiwan News reported.
"It's highly possible to get infected a second time," one of the doctors, who declined to be identified, told the outlet.
The physician said that medication used to treat the virus can have negative side effects on patients' heart tissue, making them more susceptible to cardiac arrest.
"A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds [sic] they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn't help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure," the doctor said.
The doc added that the virus has "outsmarted all of us" since he says it's able to hide symptoms for up to 24 days which contradicts current guidance which says the incubation period is two weeks.
What's more is the infected patients often return false negatives before eventually being diagnosed with the illness.

"It can fool the test kit there were cases that they found, the CT scan shows both lungs are fully infected but the test came back negative four times," the whistleblower said. "The fifth test came back positive."

The virus, officially known has COVID-19, has killed at least 2,004 people in mainland China and infected more than 74,000 others.

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OldAg89er said:

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cbr said:

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OldAg89er said:

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It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




54E

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As i mentioned, china NORMALLY cremates a million people per month. So what does it take for this kind of *****

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And they are now cremating a larger demand, so much so, they need more incinerators in Wuhan.

People are welded into their apartments.

The sick disappear in large numbers at night, never to be seen again.

Apartment buildings that normally house 3,000 are standing virtually empty.

The Internet has been turned off across China.

Medical personnel are getting sick and dying.

Infected show no signs for up to 4 weeks, then many mildly get sick, then 2-3 weeks later die from pneumonia or a sudden heart attack. Think about that: more than 7 weeks from infection to death, with severe illness only at the end. Lives on surfaces for up to 9 days.

Military grade weapon designed to exhaust the resources of the enemy while expanding killing fields exponentially.

Question is: what is the mortality rate 8 weeks post infection? 10 weeks?

54E.

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Just as many of not more have made full recoveries. Take a little off the top of your end of the world.

OldAg89er said:

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cbr said:

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OldAg89er said:

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It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




54E

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As i mentioned, china NORMALLY cremates a million people per month. So what does it take for this kind of *****

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And they are now cremating a larger demand, so much so, they need more incinerators in Wuhan.

People are welded into their apartments.

The sick disappear in large numbers at night, never to be seen again.

Apartment buildings that normally house 3,000 are standing virtually empty.

The Internet has been turned off across China.

Medical personnel are getting sick and dying.

Infected show no signs for up to 4 weeks, then many mildly get sick, then 2-3 weeks later die from pneumonia or a sudden heart attack. Think about that: more than 7 weeks from infection to death, with severe illness only at the end. Lives on surfaces for up to 9 days.

Military grade weapon designed to exhaust the resources of the enemy while expanding killing fields exponentially.

Question is: what is the mortality rate 8 weeks post infection? 10 weeks?

54E.

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Lolwut?

Вы очень умный товарищ

CowtownEng said:

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OldAg89er said:

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cbr said:

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OldAg89er said:

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It's just the flu....

China moved 40 industrial incinerators into Wuhan today.

Now, why would they need those? IrishAggie says it's just the flu.

The reason they need them: Supply of corpses exceeds the capacity to burn them.

Think about that. Running all the crematoriums in Wuhan 24 hours a day isnt handling the number of deceased. Burning them in open pits is not covering the gap. Now, 40 new incinerators, 24x7, burning what IrishAggie says doesnt exist.

Just the flu.

Question: if our government knew that this was a weapon of war and that it is *impossible* at this point to contain it - even though there are over 400 million people quarantined world wide. If the Feds knew that it will infect near 100% of the population and what happens is unstoppable:

What would it say, how would it act? How would it keep the economy moving, food harvested and delivered, goods moved, lights on, as long as possible - until it was all too obvious that we are all screwed?




54E

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As i mentioned, china NORMALLY cremates a million people per month. So what does it take for this kind of *****

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And they are now cremating a larger demand, so much so, they need more incinerators in Wuhan.

People are welded into their apartments.

The sick disappear in large numbers at night, never to be seen again.

Apartment buildings that normally house 3,000 are standing virtually empty.

The Internet has been turned off across China.

Medical personnel are getting sick and dying.

Infected show no signs for up to 4 weeks, then many mildly get sick, then 2-3 weeks later die from pneumonia or a sudden heart attack. Think about that: more than 7 weeks from infection to death, with severe illness only at the end. Lives on surfaces for up to 9 days.

Military grade weapon designed to exhaust the resources of the enemy while expanding killing fields exponentially.

Question is: what is the mortality rate 8 weeks post infection? 10 weeks?

54E.

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Lolwut?

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Bioweapon Evidence?....


News report aired 2 years ago in 2018 in China talks about how they found a strain of novel coronavirus from bats in livestock and that we should start monitoring viruses in bats more closely....looks like they did.

Two years later seems like enough time to....make a mistake.

Facebook Video

https://www.facebook.com/theNewsmonger/videos/1048009912222740/

Opening quote:

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Recently, a research team lead by the Wuhan Institute of Virology confirmed that the porcine epidemic diarrhea that caused a large amount of death in pigs in Guangdong a year ago is due to a novel corona virus from bats. This research shows that humans need to be closely monitoring viral infections in bats and other wild animals.

The result was published in a prestigious international academic journal, Nature...

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Then a guy with Cerebral Palsy comes out of now where...

Weird to say the least.

Consider me in the bioweapon/SARs vaccination/experiment gone wrong camp.

goodAg80 said:

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Вы очень умный товарищ

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I speak English, Chinese, and French.

Sorry. No Russian.

Wow, here is the article from Nature...

How is it that Wuhan and these Corona viruses are always linked? Didn't they say that these bats are not from the area and that the bats there do not carry this strain?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-emerges-bats-china-devastates-young-swine

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New coronavirus emerges from bats in China, devastates young swine


A newly identified coronavirus that killed nearly 25,000 piglets in 2016-17 in China emerged from horseshoe bats near the origin of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which emerged in 2002 in the same bat species. The new virus is named swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV). It does not appear to infect people, unlike SARS-CoV which infected more than 8,000 people and killed 774. No SARS-CoV cases have been identified since 2004. The study investigators identified SADS-CoV on four pig farms in China's Guangdong Province. The work was a collaboration among scientists from EcoHealth Alliance, Duke-NUS Medical School, Wuhan Institute of Virology and other organizations, and was funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health. The research is published in the journal Nature.
The researchers say the finding is an important reminder that identifying new viruses in animals and quickly determining their potential to infect people is a key way to reduce global health threats.
SADS-CoV began killing piglets on a farm near Foshan in Guangdong Province in late October 2016. Investigators initially suspected porcine epidemic diarrhea virus (PEDV) as the cause. PEDV is a type of coronavirus common to swine that had been identified at the Foshan farm. Detection of PEDV ceased by mid-January 2017, yet piglets continued to die, suggesting a different cause. Scientists say separating sick sows and piglets from the rest of the herd helped stop the outbreak of SADS-CoV by May 2017.

Investigators confirmed the connection of SADS-CoV to bats by identifying the new virus in the small intestine of piglets from the outbreak. They then determined that the genetic sequence of SADS-CoV is similar to that of a bat coronavirus discovered in 2007 and looked for evidence of SADS-CoV in bat specimens collected from 2013 to 2016 in Guangdong Province. The new virus appeared in 71 of 596 specimens (11.9 percent).
The researchers also tested 35 farm workers who had close contact with sick pigs, none of whom tested positive for SADS-CoV.

Currently six coronaviruses are known to cause disease in people, but so far only two of them SARS-CoV and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus have caused large outbreaks of fatal illness in people.

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