China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Lets be real, do you think we know what actually happened there?
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scottimus said:

I was thinking, actually, that since everyone is quarantined....not one is feeding them. I believe it says they were starved...
Yeah. Just trying to bring a little aquatic bird levity to the thread. Carry on.
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someone should send peta over there...
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scottimus said:

Lets be real, do you think we know what actually happened there?
Well, Ive read the book and it certainly doesnt chronicle what he says it does.
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...along with all of their SJW supporters.
How bout you go back down the hill and get it then?
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I have not read the book, but plan to order it now!

What is contrasted?
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Whew! Don't scare me like that.
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scottimus said:

I have not read the book, but plan to order it now!

What is contrasted?

Decades ago, for example, the U.S. Army ran an Ebola bioweapons lab in the United States, where a monkey infected one of the scientists there. The strain turned out to be infectious only in monkeys, not humans, so the world dodged a bullet, but the U.S. Army "nuked" the entire facility with chemical bombs, killing all the monkeys and wiping out any last remnant of the virus on U.S. soil.

Spoilers below for The Hot Zone (and depending on your viewpoint, actual history) i guess....

It was monkeys owned and imported by a private lab company, not US bioweapons and the CDC? got involved when monkeys started dying and they kinda panicked when they discovered the monkeys had a new virus similar to Ebola or Marburg. Yes, they euthanized all the monkeys in the building, as you would expect. No human ever got sick, although I guess you can say workers were determined to have been infected because they had antibodies to the virus. I dont remember whether the Army was involved at all? As far as wiping out the last remanant of the virus on US soil, Reston strain ebolavirus has returned other times to the US in monkeys imported from the Philippines in the same way since then.
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Good synopsis. I still plan to read it.

With the increase in global exchange since 1989, I can imagine we have more of this now....

But probably the most important question is....was the Military involved?
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keep the speculation to a minimum on this thread please.

There is another thread for speculation, conspiracies, doom and gloom, fear porn, and hearsay.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3091528


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We've also covered it at NaturalNews.com, where this book description is reprinted:
Natural news is junk site. Alex Jones type.....
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Very frustrated that our government is still allowing Americans to go to China and return without being screened. My BIL flies a 747 from interior of China and also Hong Kong to Germany and back each week and lives in Dallas. Their is a "cargo pilot exemption" that allows cargo pilots to do this without having to return thru the seven designated airports and be screened. The pilots complained to the union and the union negotiated a deal with UPS: they can refuse to fly the flights and be docked half their pay...or fly the flights and get double pay. That seems ridiculous to me.

We ordinarily get to see my BIL a few days between trips. He is due back from China next week. We of course are going to have no physical contact with him for quite a while. He has decided to continue to do the flights and get double pay.....and still be around his family and others when he comes home. He will be roaming the Dallas suburbs next week for at least a couple of weeks.

Our government needs to fix this exemption.....one way or another.

Please don't copy this post....thanks.
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It looks like the the CDC sent the samples to USAMRIID to study, which is where the Reston ebolavirus was identified. So thats an army facility, but I dont think the Army had anything to do with quarantining and disinfection or had anything to do with the company that had imported the monkeys.
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Yeah...I said that site was "trying to sell something"


However, if you want to provide any evidence refuting the identification of the genetic sequence of the pShuttle insertion of SARS into a CornaVirus that his website posted.....that is why I posted it. So that people with more knowledge can look at that hypothesis....
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Things might start ramping up over there soon...

How long until we see burning skyscrapers?
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I'm at LAX airport right now. An Asian lady sat down behind me with a mask on and started hacking. People immediately GTF away from her, including myself.
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scottimus said:

Yeah...I said that site was "trying to sell something"


However, if you want to provide any evidence refuting the identification of the genetic sequence of the pShuttle insertion of SARS into a CornaVirus that his website posted.....that is why I posted it. So that people with more knowledge can look at that hypothesis....

It's an interesting hypothesis. I'd have to spend some time combing through the genetic sequences and trying to find matches in other organisms to say whether it has any validity, but the viral engineering method described is pretty similar to the generic one I outlined about a week ago.

Plasmids are a very common way to insert foreign genes into cells. The particularly clever aspect of using it for viruses, is that you can design any viral sequence you want, have it produced in a plasmid with controls on when the cells use it (i.e. "promoter" region), and then have bacteria produce the initial viral particles. It's actually a relatively easy and straightforward process in a lab, and can be done with minimal equipment (ignoring safety needs).
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PearlJammin said:

I'm at LAX airport right now. An Asian lady sat down behind me with a mask on and started hacking. People immediately GTF away from her, including myself.

This kind of thing has me worried, as I'm flying to New Zealand from LAX in early March. Starting to seriously wonder if I should wear a mask while flying.
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Only way a mask helps is if someone basically coughs into your face. The air on the plane is very clean.

Best defense is to not touch your face at all, wash your hands a ton, and use hand sanitizer a ton.
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StrickAggie06 said:

PearlJammin said:

I'm at LAX airport right now. An Asian lady sat down behind me with a mask on and started hacking. People immediately GTF away from her, including myself.

This kind of thing has me worried, as I'm flying to New Zealand from LAX in early March. Starting to seriously wonder if I should wear a mask while flying.
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Moving quick today. I've been in and out all day. Haven't had time to digest. No offense meant.
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Nevermind....what I posted was too dark. Best kept off line.
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Of about 140 passengers, about 10 have masks on. I never see people wearing them otherwise.
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CDC recommends against wearing most masks, but there were a few people with them on in the airports this week. Mostly Chinese decent. Take hand sanitizer and a special towel to touch your face with.
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PearlJammin said:

I'm at LAX airport right now. An Asian lady sat down behind me with a mask on and started hacking. People immediately GTF away from her, including myself.
She just wanted some space to herself. And didn't want a lot of people sitting around her.
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will25u said:

PearlJammin said:

I'm at LAX airport right now. An Asian lady sat down behind me with a mask on and started hacking. People immediately GTF away from her, including myself.
She just wanted some space to herself. And didn't want a lot of people sitting around her.
Flatulence would be the preferred method during this period.
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Interesting information and discussion here from knowledgeable folks.

They see/propose two likely outcomes and discuss each.

Two scenarios
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lead said:

CDC recommends against wearing most masks, but there were a few people with them on in the airports this week. Mostly Chinese decent. Take hand sanitizer and a special towel to touch your face with.


Depends on the mask and the CDC is often slow and incompetent.
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moses1084ever said:

I live in Singapore. Orange is going to be a ball ache. Every employer is now required to perform temperature checks twice daily.. which is hard because all pharmacies around town have been sold out of thermometers for over a week.

Wife and I are seriously discussing about whether to take the kids and bail somewhere, but the tradeoffs aren't clear.. risk getting stuck/stranded, being around sick people while travelling, etc.
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Moses,
How about a texags care package? Email me your address and some items that you would like. Maybe some N95 masks, gloves, GermX. What is getting hard to come by?

I'm in BCS so if someone wants to throw something in the package shoot me an email.

Viv6860@gmail.com
I wonder if we can get some sent to China too?
Anyone know someone who flies cargo to China?

Sadly my family has to rewash masks and gloves since they don't have anymore.
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Maybe organize an air drop of supplies?
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Bobcat-Ag said:

Maybe organize an air drop of supplies?
Governments tend to frown on unapproved overflights and dropping things.
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moses1084ever said:

I live in Singapore. Orange is going to be a ball ache. Every employer is now required to perform temperature checks twice daily.. which is hard because all pharmacies around town have been sold out of thermometers for over a week.

Wife and I are seriously discussing about whether to take the kids and bail somewhere, but the tradeoffs aren't clear.. risk getting stuck/stranded, being around sick people while travelling, etc.


Treat it like a high school girlfriend, Pull out.
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Bobcat-Ag said:

Maybe organize an air drop of supplies?


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http://foxsanantonio.com/news/local/two-americans-on-evacuation-planes-showing-symptoms-of-coronavirus-fox-news-reports

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A plane with American evacuees escaping the epicenter of the coronavirus landed at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland afternoon.

The plane, which left China Thursday evening, stopped to refuel at Travis Air Force Base in California before departing for San Antonio. Two Americans that were on board two planes in Canada and Travis Air Force Base in California are showing symptoms of the coronavirus, according to a Fox News report. That forced a two-hour delay this morning.
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