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Panic buying, just like people buying up every face mask on Amazon.

Tx-Ag2010 said:

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Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

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2500' well and 500 gallons each of gas and diesel. At the ready at all times.

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Tx-Ag2010 said:

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Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

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2500' well and 500 gallons each of gas and diesel. At the ready at all times.

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Where would you put all that where you don't already have your food? Though if you have a coastal place I guess it should be a given --basement or something.

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Tx-Ag2010 said:

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Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

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2500' well and 500 gallons each of gas and diesel. At the ready at all times.

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Where would you put all that where you don't already have your food? Though if you have a coastal place I guess it should be a given --basement or something.

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External tanks. I have them on the ranch. Full of red diesel.

daggertx said:

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I have one of these, I should be good for awhile.

https://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/product/1027/water-filtration-systems

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I'll first say I'm not aware of any evidence that the virus is waterborne. I can see in a quarantine situation water service will suffer. Also I will say I'm no water filtration expert.

I'm not sure how much at particular filter will handle as far as virus and bacteria. There is no mention on the webpage of either of those. Typically for biological a your looking for a specific micron sized filter something like 0.1 micron. Even then, your not going to get 100% of the bacteria/virus. Personally I like backpacking filters for use with untreated water. https://sawyer.com/products/mini-filter/

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There isn't a gold standard on dose. Honestly, as an adult, you can't really overdo it. It's like you eating 2 strawberries or 20, both benefit you, but it can get expensive if you overdo it. The dose I take is 1,900mg of the concentrated syrup which is the equivalent of 14.5g (14,500mg) of fresh elderberries. My kiddo takes 1/4th of that dose daily. They make the syrups and gummies for the kiddos and syrups and capsules for adults, the syrups usually have a higher potency than the gummies and capsules. Personally, I like the Gaia Herbs brand, made in the U.S. and they test all of their products for microbials, heavy metals, and pesticides.

People with any type of autoimmune disorder (lupus, arthritis, etc) should not use Elderberry. I did not know this until I saw it cause severe issues (relative).

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Tx-Ag2010 said:

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Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

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2500' well and 500 gallons each of gas and diesel. At the ready at all times.

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Where would you put all that where you don't already have your food? Though if you have a coastal place I guess it should be a given --basement or something.

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At the office, about 5 miles from my house l.

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People with any type of autoimmune disorder (lupus, arthritis, etc) should not use Elderberry. I did not know this until I saw it cause severe issues (relative).

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So it can have a negative effect on the immune system?

Also, the studies on elderberries suggest that it's better to take the supplement after you get sick because it helps your body fight the virus. I don't think the studies looked at daily use.

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People with any type of autoimmune disorder (lupus, arthritis, etc) should not use Elderberry. I did not know this until I saw it cause severe issues (relative).

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So it can have a negative effect on the immune system?

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There are a lot of things other people take that are over the counter that someone (like me with autoimmune issues) reacts differently because are immune systems are already a bit nutty.

I like the gummies.

Need to buy some more actually

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daggertx said:

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I have one of these, I should be good for awhile.

https://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/product/1027/water-filtration-systems

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I'll first say I'm not aware of any evidence that the virus is waterborne. I can see in a quarantine situation water service will suffer. Also I will say I'm no water filtration expert.

I'm not sure how much at particular filter will handle as far as virus and bacteria. There is no mention on the webpage of either of those. Typically for biological a your looking for a specific micron sized filter something like 0.1 micron. Even then, your not going to get 100% of the bacteria/virus. Personally I like backpacking filters for use with untreated water. https://sawyer.com/products/mini-filter/

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I know, but the chances of it infecting the water supply is slim to none.

Quick update from a few of my sources.
1) Shanghai military district medical units have been mobilized and sent to Wuhan for immediate deployment.
2) New york gov said to expect cases
3) Cstat Home depot still not out of masks.

Going there now!

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Got to hand it to them, the Chinese are good w their propaganda. How many didn't make it that they didn't report?

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Sounds like beijing accent.
Most Wuhan people in beijing are in Haidian!!

The immune system of people with autoimmune disease is "over reacting" constantlyattacking organs, joints, skin, etc. Elderberry can cause an over reaction of the over reaction.

Doesn't really matter if they cured one, it means everything. That would be a very fast turn-around for a counter.

Find it hard to believe that people are dropping in the streets this early.

Welp. China is now admitting it is in a crisis.

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Welp. China is now admitting it is in a crisis.

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I dont recall china EVER doing that.

It goes against the basic roots of culture and rule number 1 of their leadership playbook

No one has ever tried to quarantine a whole city, much less 15.

As i suspected, this event is only getting worse.

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Welp. China is now admitting it is in a crisis.

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I dont recall china EVER doing that.

It goes against the basic roots of culture and rule number 1 of their leadership playbook

No one has ever tried to quarantine a whole city, much less 15.

As i suspected, this event is only getting worse.

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The HBO mini-series on the Chernobyl disaster is timely. Look how far things had to go and how terrifying that crisis had to get before the Soviet regime would admit what had happened.

If the Chinese government is more frightened of this than they are of losing prestige, that in itself is terrifying...

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Those sound a lot like fireworks to me, the mortar type. I have heard the typical AK 47 or AK 74 and they don't sound like that. (I also think you would hear bursts rather than something rhythmic) Remember, this their holiday and I believe that these folks were actually responsible for gunpowder and thus fireworks. I understand that they are under quarantine, but think of when we are under a burn ban. We still hear the fireworks.

Hard to sort the wheat from the chaff in some of these videos.

cbr said:

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Nuclear Scramjet said:

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Welp. China is now admitting it is in a crisis.

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I dont recall china EVER doing that.

It goes against the basic roots of culture and rule number 1 of their leadership playbook

No one has ever tried to quarantine a whole city, much less 15.

As i suspected, this event is only getting worse.

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Exactly. Their culture is entirely based around the idea of saving face, even without the communism. I have never seen them admit to a crisis like this. It's going to be bad.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/9904/special-podcast-discussing-coronavirus-chris-martenson-phd

Good podcast on the virus from an experienced pathologist.

Why do all these diseases come from China ?

Have you been to or read anything about China?

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Why do all these diseases come from China ?

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They eat a lot of weird random ***** There's a crap ton of them in confined spaces. Proper hygiene and sanitation are not practiced. Lots of sub par medical facilities.

azulAg said:

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Why do all these diseases come from China ?

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That has been discussed extensively. Primarily it is due to poor sanitation, little soap use, and wet meat markets.

azulAg said:

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Why do all these diseases come from China ?

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Africa and China are massive s-holes, literally.