Decent non-twitter news update:

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-51249208

Saw three old Asians with masks on at my sons basketball game this morning. Unclear if that was to protect them from getting sick, or us from catching it from them LOL

daggertx said:

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Why would water be an issue?

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It shouldn't unless half the population Is quarantined in their own house (either with the disease or to avoid it)

daggertx said:

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Why would water be an issue?

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How long can you trust tap water once it reaches the point where everyone is staying home from work.

Ducks4brkfast said:

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Saw three old Asians with masks on at my sons basketball game this morning. Unclear if that was to protect them from getting sick, or us from catching it from them LOL

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Or because theyre paranoid

GE said:

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daggertx said:

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Why would water be an issue?

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How long can you trust tap water once it reaches the point where everyone is staying home from work.

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Pretty long? I am struggling to figure out what you are getting at here.

Sid Farkas said:

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Ducks4brkfast said:

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Saw three old Asians with masks on at my sons basketball game this morning. Unclear if that was to protect them from getting sick, or us from catching it from them LOL

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Or because theyre paranoid

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Well, that would fall into the first category of reasoning

Eliminatus said:

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Not gonna lie, I find all of this horribly fascinating. Epidemics/pandemics has always been one of my personal study areas. I have an entire bookshelf with dedicated volumes of plagues/pandemics of the past.

I think most realize that there is a very thin line separating these kinds of events from being a short term scare to possibly being something the generations after us will be reading about in their own books if the incubation is indeed a coupla weeks.

The what if I keep spinning in my head is what would the US do in these circumstances. Because pretty much only one real thing has been shown to limit these events if anything does. And that is draconian government control. Which is incompatible with most of us Americans. Current student myself and I frequent a popular Asian food joint near campus and at least half the clientele (all asian themselves) were wearing masks already.

One thing I am positive of, is that China is underreporting. As most of us suspect.

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I'm not into it like you are, but Im 100 %certain that eventually we'll have another major pandemic, probably bacterial.

GE said:

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daggertx said:

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Why would water be an issue?

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How long can you trust tap water once it reaches the point where everyone is staying home from work.

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Boil it before you drink it

People don't use water at work?

Infection_Ag11 said:

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The Fall Guy said:

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I am watching it at this moment. Scary but you know what. Our population on this earth is too high.

I believe these viruses are here to keep it in check. It's only a matter of time.

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Complete myth. You could place every person on the planet shoulder to shoulder, front to back and fit all 7.8 billon of us in Los Angeles. Not Los Angeles county, just LA proper. 95% of humans live on 8.5% of the surface area, and 80% of the land surface area on earth is either minimally inhabited or not inhabited at all by humans.

It's also a myth that most insufficient resources are due to overpopulation. The biggest problem with most resources is production with the most common rate limiting step being man power.

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Counterpoint:

Trust water? Well this is getting into crazy stuff but no crazier than some things that have actually happened in history:

1) enough people freak to have water workers stay home and cause failure
2) some negligent handling of waste gets into source
3) some psycho does it on purpose
4) some group of terrorists already here (there are many) finds a way to do it on purpose.
5) authorities find/suspect/fear one of the above and turn it off.

Agvet12 said:

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GE said:

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daggertx said:

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Why would water be an issue?

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How long can you trust tap water once it reaches the point where everyone is staying home from work.

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Boil it before you drink it

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They also sell lots of water purifiers for campers etc. in the flood we bought some in case we ran out of clean

I have one of these, I should be good for awhile.

https://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/product/1027/water-filtration-systems

Yeah, best thing with dirty water is pour through a silk shirt, then boil and let settle, scoop from the top and drink through such a purifier.

Dont you want the Chlorine in the water to kill any virus? That purifier removes it!

iluvpoker said:

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All I want to know is does this mean I need to stop eating Chinese food? Oh and btw Uncle Benny scoffed at the paltry number dead and told me in LW4 that "there's a billion more where they came from".

Please note winky face icon.

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"600 million screaming Chinamen."

"Last I heard there were a billion screaming Chinamen"

"There were."

RIP booth

yukmonkey said:

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How would the virus be in the water? You guys are jumping off some serious logic cliffs.

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I dont think anyone is saying the virus in the water. I've always functioned under the assumption that tap water is clean and drinkable because people work to keep it that way and if those people aren't showing up for work it could cause problems. Could be wrong that was just my assumption.

They're not talking about the virus being in the water. They're talking about the possibility of a quarantine causing water treatment facility staff to not be able to operate water treatment facilities, which would bring the risk of contaminates getting into water supply that you wouldn't want to drink. Thus needing filtration.

If you read the thread even just a page or so back you'll see.

Back to lurking.

Edit: that was supposed to be in reply to yukmonkey/soup and not pearl...

Eliminatus said:

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Not gonna lie, I find all of this horribly fascinating. Epidemics/pandemics has always been one of my personal study areas. I have an entire bookshelf with dedicated volumes of plagues/pandemics of the past.

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If you have time, would you mind posting the titles?

Thanks.

Emotional Support Cobra said:

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iluvpoker said:

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All I want to know is does this mean I need to stop eating Chinese food? Oh and btw Uncle Benny scoffed at the paltry number dead and told me in LW4 that "there's a billion more where they came from".

Please note winky face icon.

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"600 million screaming Chinamen."

"Last I heard there were a billion screaming Chinamen"

"There were."

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*Tosses drink into the flames*

One thing ya gotta love is when stuff like this happens, everyone is an expert.

The damned thing of it all is, for a viral outbreak to have maximum damage on humans, urbanized China is probably the best spot for it to happen. For the best ability to lock down the population which is the best way to combat this event, it is also China. So in my eyes, this happening there is the worst thing and the best thing, somehow?

Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

azulAg said:

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RIP booth

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Careful. Last time I said "RIP" about this virus I caught a 24hr ban.

PearlJammin said:

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Dont you want the Chlorine in the water to kill any virus? That purifier removes it!

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I want chlorine in the water...up until the point it enters my home, and then my filter removes the chlorine.

Tx-Ag2010 said:

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Hopefully most people in Texas (or at least the Gulf Coast area) have a hurricane kit that includes water and food for a couple weeks.

Although there is a huge rush at the store anytime something enters the gulf so people could be less prepared than me.

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IMO you're being overly optimistic. Most people don't even have a decent first aid kit beyond band-aids and pepto let alone fully stocked pantry.

Sid said:

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Eliminatus said:

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Not gonna lie, I find all of this horribly fascinating. Epidemics/pandemics has always been one of my personal study areas. I have an entire bookshelf with dedicated volumes of plagues/pandemics of the past.

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If you have time, would you mind posting the titles?

Thanks.

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Sorry, gone for the weekend. Most are academic in nature though. A few good ones I remember from top of head is The Great Influenza, The Ghost Map, one simply called Pandemics. A good account is The Hot Zone which is a novel of our own brush with hemorrhagic fever. Spillover was also good as it is more forward thinking in nature. Also goes into detail on cross species contamination which this current event appears to be.

PearlJammin said:

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Dont you want the Chlorine in the water to kill any virus? That purifier removes it!

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Huh? Its already in the water, until I drink it.

yukmonkey said:

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How would the virus be in the water? You guys are jumping off some serious logic cliffs.

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Not sure about this virus but...

"Hepatitis, gastroenteritis, meningitis, fever, rash, and conjunctivitis can all be spread through contaminated water. More viruses are being discovered in water because of new detection and characterization methods, although only some of these viruses are human pathogens."

erudite said:

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Looks like a regular hospital day in china to me.

Edit: THIS IS WHY PEOPLE GET INFECTED. TOO MANY PEOPLE/SQUARE MILE

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Erudite,

See, this is an example of why testimony from people from there or familiar with is important. That looks like a nightmare situation if in America.

So you are saying that is the normal look for a Chinese hospital day?? That matters a great deal. It means videos that we are seeing for the first time that might look alarming as hell, is more routine in context than it may appear.

Put another way, even if close to the normal look --it means we have no way to relate. We just can't, and need to be careful about assuming the worst too fast.

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I really missed my calling as a prepper supplier. Business has to be BOOMING with stories like this.


On a side note, went to Home Depot east of Dallas today. Old lady at the counter sees me buying a propane tank for grill. Asks "what do you think about this Chinese virus?"