China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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BlueMiles
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Any news about the hospital supposedly being constructed?
Fizban
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Umbrella Corporation stock down 7% on no news, buying opportunity?

erudite
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aggiehawg said:

Don't know how much it may be worth, but prayers sent for you and family, Stay strong and we are here for you.
Most of my close family is far far away in a rural area.

My extended family is ground zero .

If anyone is shipping anything to china I'd lack to tack on a box of a few hundred masks please (The sellers in china are price gouging again).
sawthemoffxx
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Anyone have a recommendation for a good mask to have just in case? I'm not talking about those paper things you see I mean an actual mask
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Erudite is very active on F16 with lots of sources especially in regards to China for a Soph student at A&M...
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BlueMiles said:

Any news about the hospital supposedly being constructed?
Negative. I will say this. I am discussing this with my friend who is an international student friends in the US. We universally agree one thing, "It's bull**** ****ing propaganda"
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sawthemoffxx said:

Anyone have a recommendation for a good mask to have just in case? I'm not talking about those paper things you see I mean an actual mask
How much are you willing to spend?
erudite
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HumbleAg04 said:

Erudite is very active on F16 with lots of sources especially in regards to China for a Soph student at A&M...
I'm sorry my parents decided to move back to China for a job when I was little.
I'm so, so sorry.
I'm also sorry that you have to get connections to do things in China.
I'm very sorry my family has several healthcare workers, and Ph.D's who actually value their work.
#itsnotokaytobeasian #asianprivlege #maleprivlege

Jokes aside we all know what group this is referencing.
erudite
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Ignore me wrong reply.
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Rapier108 said:

sawthemoffxx said:

Anyone have a recommendation for a good mask to have just in case? I'm not talking about those paper things you see I mean an actual mask
How much are you willing to spend?


Meh like 40-50.
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Is the South China Morning Post reputable? I've been looking for an Asian based English Langauge news source (for getting some more info on this situation) and this seems to be the best option I've found.

It's Hong Kong based so hopefully it's not just another Communist Party mouthpiece.
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erudite said:

Depends on how badly they want the masks (read: They haven't told me yet )
You mentioned gas masks earlier, a good one covering full NBC protection is about $300 each. It's the only thing which I would say would be a 100% certainty of protection.

Other than that, decent, full face filter masks can go for around $50 and up.
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They will generally over-hype / be anti-mainland biased, not AS badly but think BBC-esque.

That being said I don't remember if the CCP had a business purchase them sometime back.
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sawthemoffxx said:

Rapier108 said:

sawthemoffxx said:

Anyone have a recommendation for a good mask to have just in case? I'm not talking about those paper things you see I mean an actual mask
How much are you willing to spend?


Meh like 40-50.
There are a lot of full face filter masks for around $50 and up, but they're not made specifically for protection against pathogens.

Amazon has a bunch (both shipped from Amazon and the marketplace) and plenty of other sites will come up with a simple search.
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erudite said:

They will generally over-hype / be anti-mainland biased, not AS badly but think BBC-esque.

That being said I don't remember if the CCP had a business purchase them sometime back.


Any recommendations on other Chinese or other Asia based English news sources we can check out?

Also, thanks for your perspective and translations. I know many of us really appreciate it!
erudite
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Unfortunately no. The HK ones used to be pretty neutral until the recent pro-democracy stuff went down.
Maybe check the Taiwan one, it will be biased, but in the vein of "this is why we should declare independence" or downplaying it due to the desire to reunite as one China. Should be easy to spot the bias in those.

erudite
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Also, one of the lessons to take away from this today:
There was a video posted back about several doctors/nurses having breakdowns and crying their eyes out. I think that also might happen in the US if such an outbreak was to occur but on a larger scale. In China doctors don't get paid much and generally are not the top earners unlike the US, but earn above average.

There's a difference between people who are in it for the money, and people who genuine love what they do...

Like my grandmother says. The job of medical professions is a risk trade off, if there is an outbreak you WILL be overworked. But that is a risk you must be willing to take alongside infection and death if you truly wish to be a doctor.

The people who treating people on that outbreak and manage to stay strong are real heroes. I cannot say the same with those who are desperately trying to get out.
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aggiehawg
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If anyone is shipping anything to china I'd lack to tack on a box of a few hundred masks please (The sellers in china are price gouging again).


Cross post that on multiple forums. Staff will help if you ask.
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So on a scale of 1-10 how ****ed are we
The Fall Guy
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Reading this is why I am glad I have the olds.
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Depends on how good the US responds to this if cases are confirmed.
If we straight up lock down the ports and deny entry to anyone from China, and aggressively isolate anyone in proximity of the patients we should be fine.

Edit: That is assuming there is only two strains of the virus and it can't stay dormant in the environment for years.
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So given our govt track record, we should all be dead within a couple months ?
erudite
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If China can contain the outbreak, the US should be able to.
Hope we NEVER, EVER, have to cross this bridge.
I should mention the us has a very high healthcare provider/ patient ratio.
I should also mention at the same times I have seen doctors who are in it for the money and would run away the first sign this came up (in us and china).


If the federal government will not do it, states will do their jobs.
If the states wont do it, counties will do their jobs.
If counties won't do it, the people of the united states will due their duty with the 2A.
Hard to come to the US if you get shot right after getting out of LAX.
the last of the bohemians
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Erudite... you're a sophomore Chinese student or Chinese American student?
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Trumps probably going to help streamline a vaccine through the FDA thus saving the world only to then be labeled a Chinese asset
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Chinese american.

If I was a Chinese international student, I would be in reverence of American (western culture).

To put bluntly, the Chinese international students (Chinese in general imho) worships white people/culture to a degree because of the shock of the colonial era, they strive to become where the US is now without looking at the issues in the US .

A well read Chinese-American would realize that blindly copying with no regards for reasoning is dangerous, and that different cultures have different issues. Granted, they do have severity levels.

Still, the international student who holds the US in awe has bigger drive then our o-line.

To be honest, I am not sure it makes much of a difference. I am here to learn. Therefore, one must first lower themselves before those who teach.
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It'll spread a little more slowly in the west because of much better sanitation habits.

titan
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Another source works in research specializing in infectious disease (and as you can guess is working on the outbreak).Regarding the 90k number, source says "****ing bull**** hyped by mass paranoia".
Does source confirm that some faking or staging of videos is going on -that some of this is bogus even in the video reports, not just the numbers reported?
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titan said:


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Another source works in research specializing in infectious disease (and as you can guess is working on the outbreak).Regarding the 90k number, source says "****ing bull**** hyped by mass paranoia".
Does source confirm that some faking or staging of videos is going on -that some of this is bogus even in the video reports, not just the numbers reported?
Source unable to see videos. Is censored when posted by me or messaged. Video of doctor arguing is legitimate per multiple sources. People collapsing can be from many reasons. Hospital video of patients everywhere seems legit (I will check later tonight)?
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To put bluntly, the Chinese international students (Chinese in general imho) worships white people/culture to a degree because of the shock of the colonial era, they strive to become where the US is now without looking at the issues in the US .

A well read Chinese-American would realize that blindly copying with no regards for reasoning is dangerous, and that different cultures have different issues. Granted, they do have severity levels.
True and interesting. Yet Japan pulled it off reasonably well. An almalgam of who they were and our ways. And I am talking about the pre-WW II part already, not what we kind of shaped after the war.


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Still, the international student who holds the US in awe has bigger drive then our o-line.
What is an o-line?
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erudite
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titan said:


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To put bluntly, the Chinese international students (Chinese in general imho) worships white people/culture to a degree because of the shock of the colonial era, they strive to become where the US is now without looking at the issues in the US .

A well read Chinese-American would realize that blindly copying with no regards for reasoning is dangerous, and that different cultures have different issues. Granted, they do have severity levels.
True and interesting. Yet Japan pulled it off reasonably well. An almalgam of who they were and our ways. And I am talking about the pre-WW II part already, not what we kind of shaped after the war.


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Still, the international student who holds the US in awe has bigger drive then our o-line.
What is an o-line?
Dunno, ask Alabama when they got obliterated by Clemson in 19'.
Edit: Roll tide tears roll?
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This is interesting, in one hand the communists can lock down their cities much easier that the US would, on the other hand it's almost a certainty that their commie hospitals severely lack the resources of American hospitals.
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North Korea looks really smart right now
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