China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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IrishTxAggie said:

Because they just fudged the **** out of their numbers
What percentage are the death numbers inflated?
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IrishTxAggie said:

Because they just fudged the **** out of their numbers
Maybe there were an extra 2000 automobile fatalities while the city was on lockdown?

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One out of 800 is about what Germany is reporting. 0.3% fatality rate

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Wrong. It's 3.4. In two weeks. A virus like we've never seen before.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR3TgokDSkmtFWUjVxQFflfBW8KDI8ZdfLfHmu0GeiQaMQOU9_aI-kqVJX4

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The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.
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JP_Losman said:

One out of 800 is about what Germany is reporting. 0.3% fatality rate


1 out of 800 for the entire (infected+uninfected) 8.3 million population of New York City.
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IrishTxAggie said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR3TgokDSkmtFWUjVxQFflfBW8KDI8ZdfLfHmu0GeiQaMQOU9_aI-kqVJX4

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The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

Another NYT article to counter yours......


I hope that they are fudging the crap out of the coronavirus deaths. Otherwise it is looking really bad.
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not every New Yorker has the bug tho
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Never knew that W.W.E. stands for World Wrestling Essential.

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China had one more death yesterday. No comment.....
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VaultingChemist said:

Otherwise it is looking really bad.

Especially for the elderly - most deaths are 65+, which is less than 15% of the population. So that's closer to one out of every 100 old person.
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Austin Ag said:

China had one more death yesterday. No comment.....
Apparently, as of yesterday. China has started doing recounts. "The cumulative number of deaths is now 3,869 1,290 more than its previous count, confirming the local outlook had been much harder hit than Beijing had previously reported." Given their many reasons to want to lie/cover up/under report, we will never get an accurate count from them...but hey, I guess its a start.
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I expect China to do a lot more of the "analyses" now that our numbers are also high since they can now save face and admit they had high numbers too. Of course they will still be way below their real numbers.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:



I expect China to do a lot more of the "analyses" now that our numbers are also high since they can now save face and admit they had high numbers too. Of course they will still be way below their real numbers.
It will be interesting to see how they lie about it when it rebounds and they have to shut down whole regions again. They will probably blame the US for deliberately spreading it.
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goodAg80 said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:



I expect China to do a lot more of the "analyses" now that our numbers are also high since they can now save face and admit they had high numbers too. Of course they will still be way below their real numbers.
It will be interesting to see how they lie about it when it rebounds and they have to shut down whole regions again. They will probably blame the US for deliberately spreading it.


They are already shutting down regions again, just trying to do it quietly.
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% increase without saying actual counts are junk. Going from 1 to 2 is a 100% increase.
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Percentile rise is meaningless when the denominator is small. You can easily double or more with only intra-family spread.

South Dakota was also hard hit by spread at an essential business.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2020/04/16/smithfield-foods-coronavirus-sioux-falls-south-dakota-reopening-plan/5150398002/

No stay at home order would have prevented that.
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Shanked Punt said:


Iowa is based on meat packing plant outbreaks.

Also, everything is shut down in Iowa the governor there just hasn't used the words "Shelter in Place"
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Shanked Punt said:



Lets shut down all the farmers and food industry! Then we can turn into a real socialist utopia.

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Percentile rise is meaningless when the denominator is small. You can easily double or more with only intra-family spread.

South Dakota was also hard hit by spread at an essential business.
This. A 25% drop in the interest rate is currently one point.
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Shanked Punt said:



Is this a new way to abbreviate "Nebraska"?
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I can't believe that you're not a bot.
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Shanked another one
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Looking back at peak panic on this thread. There was some serious melting down and "we are all going to die" going on. Then, it quickly turned to nobody is gong to get a ventilator. Now it's wave 2? I know I skipped some goal post moving but my goodness it's tough to keep up. Where are we now exactly? Two more weeks after August 2021?
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Agsrback12 said:

Looking back at peak panic on this thread. There was some serious melting down and "we are all going to die" going on. Then, it quickly turned to nobody is gong to get a ventilator. Now it's wave 2? I know I skipped some goal post moving but my goodness it's tough to keep up. Where are we now exactly? Two more weeks after August 2021?


There was a point when some posters were worried that critical infrastructures would be affected and we'd have no power or clean water.
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Right on schedule....southern half of US starting to look pretty good against CV
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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so are yall expecting to go back to the office in two weeks?
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gigemJTH12 said:

so are yall expecting to go back to the office in two weeks?
Will vary state by state. Depends on where you are on the curve, and apparently which way your governor leans.

I'm in Virginia, so probably not.
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Sorry I should have included I am in Texas. Houston specifically.
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I've been in the office for the past two weeks. Why should May 4 be any different?


Now I have less clarity on that Wednesday. May be sleeping off a Cinco de Mayo hangover.
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obviously I meant for those working from home still.
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gigemJTH12 said:

so are yall expecting to go back to the office in two weeks?


When Harris county lifts the Safe at Home ordinance, I expect my company to start telling people to go back to the office on a social distance type of schedule as we we're doing before the safe at home ordinance.

So, if that happens in two weeks, yeah I expect to be back in the office shortly after.
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