China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Signel said:

BlueMiles said:

From what I have seen and read, hygiene in the US is better than it is in China. We typically use soap and at least have the ability to wash our hands regularly.
No... there are plenty of dirty ass Americans that don't wash their hands. Have you ever watched folks leaving a public bathroom?? I sometimes wonder if they even bother to wipe their ass half the time.


And even with that, the US is way more sanitary.
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mathguy86 said:

Italian port authorities are not allowing a cruise ship to dock in Italy. There are two sick passengers from HK. 6000 are stuck with them on the floating viral incubator while they wait for test results.
What are they going to do if the test results are positive? Force everyone to stay on the ship until 2 weeks after the last case is cured?
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

China needs to implement widespread cultural changes regarding hygiene,cuisine, and medicine or it will remain a constant threat as a vector for pandemics
When it comes to cuisine... Americans eat some pretty nasty stuff.

Tilapia is pretty bad and if you've seen Mike Rowe's "Dirty Jobs" on it... you'd never eat it again. They farm it near sewage treatment facilities where they eat the solids from the sewage - Poop.



And yet, Americans gobble that stuff up like it is a delicacy.

Crawfish, catfish, lobsters are the rats of the water.

People eat squirrels... and back in the 90s, Louisiana was trying to trick people into eating Nutria, like we eat crawfish.

Hindus are shocked we eat beef.

Most importantly, if you've ever raised chickens... you might find eating chicken a little more disgusting.

What China needs is less communism and more freedom and capitalism. The problem they have is trying to decentralize their huge cities.




Yeah but we don't eat them live or boil them alive outside of crustaceans. The Chinese do this because "the torture makes them taste better."

The videos of this are horrific and the level of inhuman and ethnic psychopathy is off the charts.

I don't care what we eat, we don't do this.
wtf is "ethnic psychopathy"?
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Signel said:

BlueMiles said:

From what I have seen and read, hygiene in the US is better than it is in China. We typically use soap and at least have the ability to wash our hands regularly.
No... there are plenty of dirty ass Americans that don't wash their hands. Have you ever watched folks leaving a public bathroom?? I sometimes wonder if they even bother to wipe their ass half the time.
Washing ones hands in some public bathrooms is itself high risk and does nothing because you need hot water and like 90 seconds to remove germs and nobody does that.
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Markets sure liked what the WHO came out with today.
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scottimus said:

Talked to my expert again about some of the discussions here.

Internet rumors/speculation is this virus came from the Level 4 Biolab in Wuhan. A doctor there published a paper identifying traits associated with Asians at much higher risk due to ACE2 cells that this virus targets. Terrific story, I know.

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lmao
The rumors are ridiculous


What do you think about this tweet?

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Mariet is an actual scientist

She is just retweeting numbers she has gotten from other people

The numbers aren't terrible probably off a bit, but not as bad as those people say the R0 is above 3

Incubation is shorter though more like 3 days

The R0 may end up below 2, but the way things have been handled in China so far, it will be slightly higher for a while
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They messed up and didn't allow the US CDC in

Now the US CDC is going in with the WHO

Should start to improve

Case numbers are too high to have enough supplies, personnel, facilities for now, but that problem is only in China

The source is >90% likelihood bats, based on the fact that the genome sequence fits, the organism fits, bats have similar sequences in their viruses, Wuhan is a major market for bats (it is a popular soup there) and the bats were abundant in the market

The rest of the stuff is just bs

The BL4 wasn't even active

China doesn't use most of the facilities they have they haven't had the expertise


Humor me and let's say this is engineered. Are scientist, such as yourself, able to identify the engineered RNA genomes easily?...the story was the scientist took Corona from bats and added the ACE2 aspect.


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Haha absolutely impossible you don't understand this virus is difficult to work with it is not possible

The technology doesn't exist

I told you, Julian works on these he has for like 40 years still couldn't do this

People saying this stuff just don't understand how this stuff works

I already told you, we know where this came from we have facts, no fiction

We aren't guessing

It is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was a single animal-human transfer

That is 99.9% certain

70% certain is enough for a court of law

Sorry scientists don't normally work in absolutes, but this is just silly




Oh I certainly don't know the tech. What about CRISPR editing? Any possibility there?

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Haha come on

This stuff is very complicated and is exactly what I do

The answer is that it is not possible I know all of the technologies, everything


Slightly different question. Let's say it hits here, Houston. How would you treat pneumonia at home without medical professionals?

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It is treated pretty much the same as flu

In most cases, they need major antivirals and respiratory support

Can't do that at home

The patient would likely die

I saw the clinical strategy today, let me see if I can find it




Sent me a pdf he just got from WHO. https://www.who.int/publications-detail/clinical-management-of-severe-acute-respiratory-infection-when-novel-coronavirus-(ncov)-infection-is-suspected
Thanks so much for sharing the PDF that is actually pretty helpful and interesting!

I like how your expert mentions antivirals. What antivirals? There are none proven to work for Coronavirus in USA that I know of.
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The expert hadn't read the WHO report yet. Or maybe since he deals with this stuff, you know, he's got his own antiviral already developed.
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Forsynthia

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And elderberries, right? Got the genome sequenced right here. Kills it lickety-split
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Was going back and reading a few twitter threads last night after stumbling over that medium article about the CoV research at the lab in Wuhan. They were just spot on with their research and the next pandemic coming from crossover to humans from bats.

Here are some of the threads.













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yukmonkey said:

Forsynthia


Forsynthia? What about for the rest of us?
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Forsythia is nice in the spring. Grows everywhere at our place in NE Pennsylvania, so we're good.
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Does anything good come from that god forsaken country of China?
  • Pollution
  • Slave labor
  • Espionage
  • Big Brother
  • Funding Democrats
  • Counterfeit currency and gold coins
  • Pandemic viruses
  • ...
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What basis did the WHO have today to say it's not a worry? I don't get how they know that right now?
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gonemaroon said:

What basis did the WHO have today to say it's not a worry? I don't get how they know that right now?
I think they only way they internally were OK declaring the emergency was to add that disclaimer...as well as saying there is no reason to curtail travel or trade with the infected areas.
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NY Ag said:



Forsythia is nice in the spring. Grows everywhere at our place in NE Pennsylvania, so we're good.
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our deliveries are getting screwed up already.
hate to be impersonal but this will be really bad for business.
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Good thread on supplies. He's saying he's not that worried but waiting to the last minute means no access to supplies. Lots of places are selling out of everything and items are either going on back order or there is no back order at all.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

our deliveries are getting screwed up already.
hate to be impersonal but this will be really bad for business.
In a few days everyone's supply chains will be ****ed. The fallout from the closures and quarantines in China isn't going to be small.
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Zemira said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

our deliveries are getting screwed up already.
hate to be impersonal but this will be really bad for business.
In a few days everyone's supply chains will be ****ed. The fallout from the closures and quarantines in China isn't going to be small.

Luckily, I went and bought a bunch of stuff a week ago. We could supplement (bought the elderberry gummies today). Masks should be here within a week.
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https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uMxoQ_1580260406
If real this will be intresting.
Sign reads:
"This household contains
returnees from wuhan
Please do not contact them."
Edit: Can't read it fully, so guessing by the characters I can read.
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Today's update

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stetson said:

Does anything good come from that god forsaken country of China?
  • Pollution
  • Slave labor
  • Espionage
  • Big Brother
  • Funding Democrats
  • Counterfeit currency and gold coins
  • Pandemic viruses
  • ...

Have you ever had General Tso's Chicken?!

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General Tsos Chicken comes from New York
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Zemira said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

our deliveries are getting screwed up already.
hate to be impersonal but this will be really bad for business.
In a few days everyone's supply chains will be ****ed. The fallout from the closures and quarantines in China isn't going to be small.


If this continues for months, the global economic impact will be enormous with the massive disruption of supply lines.
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So what mask we buyin' fam?
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yukmonkey said:

So what mask we buyin' fam?
In honor of the impeachment hearings, I am getting a Chewbacca mask.
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KidDoc said:

stetson said:

Does anything good come from that god forsaken country of China?
  • Pollution
  • Slave labor
  • Espionage
  • Big Brother
  • Funding Democrats
  • Counterfeit currency and gold coins
  • Pandemic viruses
  • ...

Have you ever had General Tso's Chicken?!
I prefer Ta Chan Chicken.
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Lowe's carries N95
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claym711 said:

Lowe's carries N95
....for now
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claym711 said:

Lowe's carries N95
Maybe, depending on where you are.

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erudite said:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uMxoQ_1580260406
If real this will be intresting.
Sign reads:
"This household contains
returnees from wuhan
Please do not contact them."
Edit: Can't read it fully, so guessing by the characters I can read.
I could be wrong, but it really looked like the officials were barricading the family's door *SHUT*. Yikes.
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Grammar Pedant said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

I've seen rumors that the "hospital" is a glorified crematorium and that whomever gets sent there won't come out.
Nope, it's "whoever" in this case. Good effort, though.

I'm not sure if this has been pointed out yet in this thread but, username checks out.
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