So this isn't as good as I hoped?

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So this isn't as good as I hoped?

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Yeah, science is still science.

Stay at home order now in Denver starting tomorrow night. Liquor stores closing as well, so I guess I may be considered a hoarder now. April 10th is a long time away.

Here is the address Boris Johnson gave to the UK a few minutes ago announcing the lock down. I felt he did a good job at it. He didn't blame a mess he inherited, he just levelled with the people.

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Stay at home order now in Denver starting tomorrow night. Liquor stores closing as well, so I guess I may be considered a hoarder now. April 10th is a long time away.

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Had a friend that owns a liquor store in Texas call the state and were told that liquor stores are considered essential services.

Mardi Gras February 25th. New Orleans now getting hammered.

Spring Break in early-mid March... Miami, et al destinations getting hammered.

Good thing March Madness was called off.

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Stay at home order now in Denver starting tomorrow night. Liquor stores closing as well, so I guess I may be considered a hoarder now. April 10th is a long time away.

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What about dispensaries? Medical MJ an essential service?

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Stay at home order now in Denver starting tomorrow night. Liquor stores closing as well, so I guess I may be considered a hoarder now. April 10th is a long time away.

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Hope the alcoholics stocked up so the hospitals don't get a rash of DT cases.

Wouldn't it be awesome if they tracked that?

Charpie said:

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Wouldn't it be awesome if they tracked that?

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Yep, it would be an interesting statistic.

Have to close. So all this means is the ones outside the city will be busier. Unless Polis comes out with similar order.

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I'm gonna make a completely speculative guess that it's not specifically about coronavirus. Remdesivir might be broadly effective across RNA viruses, not just coronavirus. I don't know if orphan status can be removed after being granted, so the time to apply for this would be now while it has the attention and currently fits the requirements of an orphan disease. This opens the door to a variety of developmental advantages, including the extended exclusivity.

If I were involved in their program, I might be thinking that this is a good opportunity to gain some R&D advantages for a drug that we are going to push development on regardless. In seeing some of the movement with hydroxychloroquine, it's entirely possible that their lunch could get ate by a decades old drug that has no competitive protection. If that happens, they at least can still take advantage of a fast track designation to get the drug on the market. That can make future development in other areas a bit easier and fight off generics for longer.

I'm not involved in this program and it's just a blind speculation. Seems like a prudent corporate action for a number of reasons though.

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Wouldn't it be awesome if they tracked that?

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I can make it worse...

Stats are showing that the positive test rate is about 10%.

So how many people are showing up that end up negative that cause a positive patient to not actually get a test?

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And how many of them didn't need to be tested, but showed up because they had a runny nose, or just wanted a test for peace of mind?

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THAT'S where all the masks/PPE stuff is being wasted. Who doesn't know someone who almost wants to get this stuff just to get the attention?

Cameron County - down in the RGV (Brownsville/SPI) just issued a shelter in place starting Wednesday.

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Charpie said:

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Wouldn't it be awesome if they tracked that?

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I can make it worse...

Stats are showing that the positive test rate is about 10%.

So how many people are showing up that end up negative that cause a positive patient to not actually get a test?

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And how many people showed up negative but caught it because they were next to someone who was positive (like happened in Wuhan)?

https://covidtracking.com/data/

Not broken down by counties, but does have the negative results for states

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If I read that right, this was 3 days ago. He is on Hannity tonight and I hope he gets asked that question again.

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If I read that right, this was 3 days ago. He is on Hannity tonight and I hope he gets asked that question again.

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It was from Tuesday, tweeted as if it was from today. I don't think that changes the message considering he said it will probably take several weeks. Things haven't gotten better in 6 days.

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At the briefing Tuesday, Fauci, a key member of the task force, was asked how long will it take before officials will know whether the guidelines are actually flattening the curve.

"It probably would be several weeks and maybe longer before we know whether we're having an effect," he said.

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If I read that right, this was 3 days ago. He is on Hannity tonight and I hope he gets asked that question again.

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It was from Tuesday, tweeted as if it was from today. I don't think that changes the message considering he said it will probably take several weeks. Things haven't gotten better in 6 days.

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At the briefing Tuesday, Fauci, a key member of the task force, was asked how long will it take before officials will know whether the guidelines are actually flattening the curve.

"It probably would be several weeks and maybe longer before we know whether we're having an effect," he said.

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Agreed, but its not his call and the cure vs the virus debate is starting ramp up.

BTW - same thing happening in Spain that has happened in Italy. Doctors don't have enough ventilators and are letting older patients die.

B/CS is under a shelter in place order starting at 9pm tomorrow.

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I honestly don't understand why Trump's tweet that thing will be reevaluated at the 15 day mark is that big of a deal. Anyone with a brain and eyes knows things are not going to be let up at the 15 day mark anyway. I guess it's because of the "make sure the cure is not worse than cause" language.

I personally like the communication that things will be evaluated at certain intervals. It gives some semblance of a plan. This is how things should always go because that is how real life is done.

https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/New-study-suggests-how-long-COVID-19-can-stay-on-surfaces-569036171.html

3 hours in the air thing is the most surprising part of that to me. Am I the only one? my assumption was that it would settle onto surfaces pretty quick.

This is the problem I have with this.

Things keep spiraling and each mayor/judge/etc is just playing follow leader down this pathway.

How do we reverse it?

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Wouldn't it be awesome if they tracked that?

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Yep, it would be an interesting statistic.

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That is being tracked.