China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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You gotta feel for these people. First they spend almost 2 weeks on the Diamond Princess and then fly back to spend another 2 weeks at Lackland. Now they are being told they can't leave even though the two weeks are up. What are they planning to do with these people?


Why can't they be sent back to where they came from rather than turning them loose into the streets of SA?
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BBRex said:

I have toilet paper and this, so I think I'm set.


That seems like an awful lot of coffee.
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Yep, we are about to see all kinds of crying wolf/yelling bomb in a movie theater type stuff and crap from the crazies.
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That should get me through a week or two.
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That's the roast date, not expiration date.
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Take it for what it's worth, I'm on mobile, but drudge doesn't have a mention of the virus or anything until the very end of the page. Yesterday it was sirens and red font. Thoughts?
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Beat the Hell said:

Too bad the warm weather theory was debunked by Mr Infectious.

I missed that. Can you repeat what was said?
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queso1 said:

Take it for what it's worth, I'm on mobile, but drudge doesn't have a mention of the virus or anything until the very end of the page. Yesterday it was sirens and red font. Thoughts?


They want people to go out and vote on super Tuesday.
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TexAgs91 said:

Beat the Hell said:

Too bad the warm weather theory was debunked by Mr Infectious.

I missed that. Can you repeat what was said?
Everybody spends all their time inside so the weather is irrelevant.....
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aggiepanic95 said:

BBRex said:

I have toilet paper and this, so I think I'm set.


Expired. You're fooked.
Thats the date it was roasted
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Tanya 93 said:

BlackLab said:

ccaggie05 said:

LawHall88 said:




You gotta feel for these people. First they spend almost 2 weeks on the Diamond Princess and then fly back to spend another 2 weeks at Lackland. Now they are being told they can't leave even though the two weeks are up. What are they planning to do with these people?


Why can't they be sent back to where they came from rather than turning them loose into the streets of SA?
On a plane? From SA's airport?


However they got here... do the reverse
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n_touch said:

aggiepanic95 said:

BBRex said:

I have toilet paper and this, so I think I'm set.


Expired. You're fooked.
Thats the date it was roasted


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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3090341/replies/56097016
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Bourbon has no expiration date. Just a little fact to pass along.
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Bobcat06 said:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3090341/replies/56097016
You just linked me to this same thread?
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TexAgs91 said:

Beat the Hell said:

Too bad the warm weather theory was debunked by Mr Infectious.

I missed that. Can you repeat what was said?

The average American spends 90% of their time indoors. The virus is spread via aerosol and surface contact. Meaning offices, schools, grocery stores, movie theaters, hospitals, nursing homes, airports, concerts, sporting events, buses, subways, trains etc. will be the places where it's contracted and spread.

It's not floating around the air outside.

With the R0 somewhere between 3 and 6 warm weather may only reduce the transmission to R0 2 (still above the pandemic level).


Yes, sunlight will boost your body's immunity, use it to your advantage.



Hopefully I am proven to be wrong.....
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Georgia getting on the scoreboard shortly.

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Mr. Infectious,

Does R0 as a measure of infectiousness factor in all of the potential issues related to how easily a disease is transmitted or does it just focus literally on technical issues about the virus itself?

To put it another way, a lot of sources keep saying that COVID-19 and SARS have a similar R0. This would make sense if all R0 was focused on was the actual bio-chemistry involved. But as I understand people with SARS were only contagious while once they showed symptoms, whereas COVID-19 can be spread by people showing little or now symptoms. Is there another metric that measure this aspect that I do't don't know? If not, then can we correctly assume that the actual R0 for COVID-19 has to be higher than that of SARS (even if they have similar survivability outside the human body), simply because it is more likely to expose more people unknowingly.

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2 cases in Georgia, just returned from italy. Whew
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wessimo said:

Georgia getting on the scoreboard shortly.


Two people who came back from Italy.
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Italy is the new China...
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No it's empirical / modeled. So yeah, it's about the virus itself but it also takes into account effective spread including the influence of environment, habits, etc.
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Here's what Pence has been up to today- putting together a list of "Top Tweets" about what an awesome job Trump is doing control this outbreak.



Hopefully tommorow they will be tweeting out a declaration of victory over the coronavirus. DOW shoots up 3,000pts!!!
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More Italy cases.

It'd be nice if Pence/CDC/HHS woke the hell up and banned all travel from the EU. They got called out in the press conference today on this and said they're leaving it to the experts.

Your experts suck ass, shut down air travel.
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Man why in the hell would you travel internationally now, especially Italy.
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wessimo said:

Here's what Pence has been up to today- putting together a list of "Top Tweets" about what an awesome job Trump is doing control this outbreak.



Hopefully tommorow they will be tweeting out a declaration of victory over the coronavirus. DOW shoots up 3,000pts!!!

Goodness. Not sure who is expending all the energy up there to praise Trump, but they're tone deaf right now.

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Marcus Aurelius said:

Man why in the hell would you travel internationally now, especially Italy.


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Marcus Aurelius said:

Man why in the hell would you travel internationally now, especially Italy.


I'd get on a plane to London right now, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Rome, Munich, Paris, and quite a few other places. Might have to re-evaluate in another week or two.
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Marcus Aurelius said:

Man why in the hell would you travel internationally now, especially Italy.


I wouldn't now... But fresh out of school... I would travel for the same reason as I did during the peak of swine flu. Prices were cheap as hell.
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Mr.Infectious said:

TexAgs91 said:

Beat the Hell said:

Too bad the warm weather theory was debunked by Mr Infectious.

I missed that. Can you repeat what was said?

The average American spends 90% of their time indoors. The virus is spread via aerosol and surface contact. Meaning offices, schools, grocery stores, movie theaters, hospitals, nursing homes, airports, concerts, sporting events, buses, subways, trains etc. will be the places where it's contracted and spread.

It's not floating around the air outside.

With the R0 somewhere between 3 and 6 warm weather may only reduce the transmission to R0 2 (still above the pandemic level).


Yes, sunlight will boost your body's immunity, use it to your advantage.



Hopefully I am proven to be wrong.....
Viruses spread easier in the winter because

1. They are denatured or "killed" by heat and radiation
2. They travel further when the air has low humidity

People living inside may affect how much heat and radiation the virus is exposed to, but the air will be more humid than winter

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I remember flying all over the place when SARS was out. Had no idea until someone told me a month later why everybody was wearing masks.
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Also lower crowds. But you have to weigh that against the risk of attractions being closed and the possibility of being stranded or quarantined somewhere.
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When do they shut down Disneyland in California?
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BigN--00 said:

Mr. Infectious,

Does R0 as a measure of infectiousness factor in all of the potential issues related to how easily a disease is transmitted or does it just focus literally on technical issues about the virus itself?

To put it another way, a lot of sources keep saying that COVID-19 and SARS have a similar R0. This would make sense if all R0 was focused on was the actual bio-chemistry involved. But as I understand people with SARS were only contagious while once they showed symptoms, whereas COVID-19 can be spread by people showing little or now symptoms. Is there another metric that measure this aspect that I do't don't know? If not, then can we correctly assume that the actual R0 for COVID-19 has to be higher than that of SARS (even if they have similar survivability outside the human body), simply because it is more likely to expose more people unknowingly.


R0 is based on how easily it spreads in a given environment. A given disease may have a higher R0 value in one country over another based on hygiene and customs (hand washing, public spitting, etc)

As for the calculations, here more details: https://web.stanford.edu/~jhj1/teachingdocs/Jones-on-R0.pdf
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