wannaggie said:

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daggertx said:

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Bill Gates is a more the type of person to want to depopulate the earth. He has said as much.

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Has he? What exactly has he said about that?

Has he said: "I want to forcibly depopulate the planet. People will need to be liquidate but that's okay with me"?

Or has he, just like any nerd from the Golden Age of SciFi, read hundreds of books with all manner of predictions about the future of humankind under different technological scenarios, and has come to the same conclusion which is obvious to anyone who looks at technology -- specifically, that we only needed 7 billion people when human labor was superior to automation, but now the amount of system input required to create and maintain another human body on the off chance that 20 years later they'll turn out to be intelligent Producers worth the investment.... has been circling marginal utility for decades and is now zeroing out as we enter the infancy of software-automation. In much the same way families in the pre-1940s USA needed to have 6-10 children in order to be able to divide up all the labor necessary to run the farm/ranch/smithy/lumberyard, and now only already-comfortable parents could afford to spend 23 years feeding and clothing 8 children whom our modern society actively prohibits from working/earning or otherwise sharing a family burden?

And did Gates merely point out - as a nerd looking at the overall trends of economic systems - the indisputable fact that a society with a tighter ratio of active workers to dependent non-participants, will have an economic and creative advantage over societies where parents must spend most of their time and labor choices merely feeding/sheltering a large set of kids?

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AG 2000' said:

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gonemaroon said:

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If the virus can move through the plumbing does this mean that everyone will get it on board before it's all said and done?

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I'm curious how this is possible? Are they saying it moves through sewage plumbing, through the p-traps and finds a new home on the toilet?

Or is it able to travel through the plumbing gas venting plumbing, somehow working its way into other bathrooms before venting to atmosphere?

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B.

The ship's problem is it has a closed HVAC system. So as more people get it, exhale it, it goes to the returns and gets passed to the next room over.

That ship is one big old petrie dish. Everyone is going to end up with it if they continue to hold them this way. They need to find a solution to get them off the ship and into isolation / quarantine.

And then scuttle the ship.

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Mr.Infectious said:

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will25u said:

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-japan/japan-cruise-ship-coronavirus-cases-climb-to-175-including-quarantine-officer-idUSKBN206019

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Another 39 people have tested positive for the coronavirus on the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined in Japan, with one quarantine officer also infected, bringing the total to 175, the health ministry said on Wednesday.

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How bad would it suck being quarantined in your room for weeks? Good god, I'm surprised people haven't started jumping ship and making a swim for the shore. How is the crew dealing cleaning towels and linens? How are people getting fed? What are the passengers doing to pass the time?

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AG 2000' said:

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flakrat said:

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gonemaroon said:

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If the virus can move through the plumbing does this mean that everyone will get it on board before it's all said and done?

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I'm curious how this is possible? Are they saying it moves through sewage plumbing, through the p-traps and finds a new home on the toilet?

Or is it able to travel through the plumbing gas venting plumbing, somehow working its way into other bathrooms before venting to atmosphere?

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B.

The ship's problem is it has a closed HVAC system. So as more people get it, exhale it, it goes to the returns and gets passed to the next room over.

That ship is one big old petrie dish. Everyone is going to end up with it if they continue to hold them this way. They need to find a solution to get them off the ship and into isolation / quarantine.

And then scuttle the ship.

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On Wednesday morning, Nokia, Vodafone, BT, Deutsche Telekom, HMD, AT&T, Sprint, Cisco, Facebook, Intel, Royole, Sony, Amazon, LG, Vivo, Ericsson, and Nvidia all withdrew from participating at the world's largest wireless industry conference in Barcelona on COVID-19 fears.

By late afternoon, GSMA, an industry group with 750 operators and over 350 companies focused on the wireless industry, canceled the Mobile World Congress (MWC) event slated for Feb. 24 to Feb. 27 in Barcelona on virus concerns.

This is the first time GSMA has canceled the MWC in its 33-year history, which usually sees upwards of 100,000 participants from across the world.

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"With due regard to the safe and healthy environment in Barcelona and the host country today, the GSMA has canceled MWC Barcelona 2020 because the global concern regarding the coronavirus outbreak, travel concern and other circumstances, make it impossible for the GSMA to hold the event," GSMA said in a statement.

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VaultingChemist said:

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I'm curious how this is possible? Are they saying it moves through sewage plumbing, through the p-traps and finds a new home on the toilet?

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Chinese plumbing does not use p-traps. Hence odors and virus can readily escape the plumbing.

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flakrat said:

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VaultingChemist said:

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I'm curious how this is possible? Are they saying it moves through sewage plumbing, through the p-traps and finds a new home on the toilet?

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Chinese plumbing does not use p-traps. Hence odors and virus can readily escape the plumbing.

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PJYoung said:

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flakrat said:

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VaultingChemist said:

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I'm curious how this is possible? Are they saying it moves through sewage plumbing, through the p-traps and finds a new home on the toilet?

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Chinese plumbing does not use p-traps. Hence odors and virus can readily escape the plumbing.

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Welcome to China.

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Some of the coronavirus testing kits sent to states and to at least 30 other countries have flaws and do not work properly, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Wednesday.

The kits were meant to enable states to conduct their own testing and get results faster than they would by shipping samples to the C.D.C. in Atlanta. But the failure of the kits means that states still have to depend on the C.D.C., which will mean several days' delay in getting results.

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Mr.Infectious said:

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This thing isn't going to be contained if the test kits are that flawed.

Hold on to your butts...its going to be a bumpy ride.

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nortex97 said:

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I bet those kits are very profitable for the manufacturer. Soon, guidance will be to 'use three tests and report as positive only if 2 of 3 are positive.'

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nortex97 said:

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I bet those kits are very profitable for the manufacturer. Soon, guidance will be to 'use three tests and report as positive only if 2 of 3 are positive.'

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Nuclear Scramjet said:

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Looks like we have a few more weeks to see if this really gets going. Modeling states 10 weeks to epidemic stage in a country.

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41 cases confirmed were all severe respiratory illness. Would argue that due to extremely heightened surveillance in both HK and Singapore, they are earlier in the curve and by early January there were hundreds of mild cases for each of these severe cases in China

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PearlJammin said:

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What's really odd is the stock market is shrugging this off like its no big deal. China's actions suggest otherwise and the economy is definitely going to feel the effects of an extended Chinese shutdown. What gives?

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Bob Knights Liver said:

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Chinese officials have asked for the virus to stop being refereed to as the Wuhan coronavirus for sensitivity to the community. They have asked for it to be referred to as the Novel Pneumonia Coronavirus, or NPC.

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