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Senate just announced there is Corona Virus briefing for all senators in the morning at 1030!

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How dare they interrupt the holy and sacred impeachment proceedings for a trivial matter!

Yeah. And multiply the #'s they've been giving by 1000

I know. We have to learn more what this virus does and how fast, and if you do recover from it. Those measures do not seem like something a nation would do to just avoid an inconvenient `disease making the rounds' with yes even a few deaths.

This total shut down stuff sounds worse.

Lots of media downplaying the virus as some far off issue.

Mother****ers this could be in your backyard with one plane flight.

If the incubation period is as extended as some of the rumors (7-14 days), then it is already here in sizeable numbers.

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Lots of media downplaying the virus as some far off issue.

Mother****ers this could be in your backyard with one plane flight.

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It already is. Your own campus.

And its in Japan.

yukmonkey said:

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Lots of media downplaying the virus as some far off issue.

Mother****ers this could be in your backyard with one plane flight.

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It's already here.

But until cases show up in D.C., NYC, etc., the coastal media elites won't care.

Hell, they pulled a passenger off a plane at LAX today who came from China (Wuhan) who had the fever. The kicker, they tried to get around the increased scrutiny by flying through Mexico City and then up to LAX.

Thank God whoever on our end still caught them, but damn - Mexico City is a huge airport and there's so many people they could have encountered just while changing planes.

Could be in your backyard? Don't kid yourself. They are already here. 70000 students come to colleges and universities in the US each year. Some of them went home over the holidays. And they came back here for school before the lockdown happened. Just like the student here. He won't be the only one. And if they are sick they will be scared to go to the doctor.

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Could be in your backyard? Don't kid yourself. They are already here. 70000 students come to colleges and universities in the US each year. Some of them went home over the holidays. And they came back here for school before the lockdown happened. Just like the student here. He won't be the only one. And if they are sick they will be scared to go to the doctor.

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If they do that we have good reason not to let mainland Chinese students into the country for the foreseeable future.

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So if my count is right that's 7 cities and roughly 25 MM people. That is roughly equivalent to quarantining the population of Texas. That's insane.

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mathguy86 said:

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So if my count is right that's 7 cities and roughly 25 MM people. That is roughly equivalent to quarantining the population of Texas. That's insane.

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Flip the script for a second. If our government was shutting down that many different cities one after another as fast as China is doing, would it be assumed to not be a very serious matter? That is what concerns. China is not so backwards that its reactions are going to be so hugely different in response.

nish flu only killed about 2% of the infected. Oddly it was mostly young healthy people. But it still killed 40-50 million people.

That said, if this flu kills 2%, mostly sick and elderly, China would not be locking 25 million people into their cities.

The number one absolute top thing Chinese leaders fear is panicked, rioting population. Top. Fear.

This act is CREATING their worst fear.

Something big is going on

Cross posted from the Brazos thread.

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mathguy86 said:

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So if my count is right that's 7 cities and roughly 25 MM people. That is roughly equivalent to quarantining the population of Texas. That's insane.

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Flip the script for a second. If our government was shutting down that many different cities one after another as fast as China is doing, would it be assumed to not be a very serious matter? That is what concerns. China is not so backwards that its reactions are going to be so hugely different in response.

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I think it's horribly telling that they are doing it. Forget texas. Imagine doing it for the greater Houston area. Martial law. No transportation in or out. Food and gasoline would become scarce in about 2 days. It would make Harvey look like a soft open.

The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Now do India, most of Africa, Indonesia and south east Asia etc etc.

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Then do San Francisco, Baltimore, and Detroit

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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There's some reports the real mortality rate is around 17% - China is underreporting.

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

When the SHTF I will welcome anyone from Texags at my place in City 17. It's safer here.

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

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Maybe, but all we can go on is the data we have.

Sure - I trust the Chicoms

Maybe Greta can scold trump for spreading this disease

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Lots of media downplaying the virus as some far off issue.

Mother****ers this could be in your backyard with one plane flight.

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It's already here.

But until cases show up in D.C., NYC, etc., the coastal media elites won't care.

Hell, they pulled a passenger off a plane at LAX today who came from China (Wuhan) who had the fever. The kicker, they tried to get around the increased scrutiny by flying through Mexico City and then up to LAX.

Thank God whoever on our end still caught them, but damn - Mexico City is a huge airport and there's so many people they could have encountered just while changing planes.

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Can we send all flights from China to Mexico for quarantine?

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

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Maybe, but all we can go on is the data we have.

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I agree completely but based on the history of China with the SARS pandemic I am skeptical about the accuracy of the current data at face value especially since they have put 29million citizens in lockdown.

Again look at the airport here. If there is unusual increased traffic, we are a positive.

And here come the overreaction tweets of patients throughout the US and beyond.

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The next couple of days we will have a ton of these.....most will turn out to be negative. Every flu/cold/pneumonia case from someone that traveled to China or the vicinity will be reported as suspected or possible.

OMG hysteria. All the while influenza kills.

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

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Maybe, but all we can go on is the data we have.

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You really think China is using its military to cut off travel to cities with a combined population of 29 million over 25 deaths (0.00000862%)? Come on man...

CDC now at level 4

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Basically it has the symptoms of all of the really bad colds I've had in my life....

Death rates

Flu US 2300/240 million
Corona virus 17/2 billion

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CDC now at level 4

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Don't they really mean don't travel to China? Every province in China has a land boundary does it not?

Influenza is more deadly. Be aware. Get vaccinated if you haven't.

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

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Maybe, but all we can go on is the data we have.

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You really think China is using its military to cut off travel to cities with a combined population of 29 million over 25 deaths (0.00000862%)? Come on man...

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It's a novel virus. That's incredibly scary to anyone who understands what that means.

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The good news is that the mortality of this only appears to be around 2-3%, which is still scary if a major outbreak occurs but compared to MERS (35% mortality) and SARS (15%) it's not nearly as virulent.

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Based on the actions of the Chinese government I expect this mortality rate to climb significantly in the next 7-10 days.

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Maybe, but all we can go on is the data we have.

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You really think China is using its military to cut off travel to cities with a combined population of 29 million over 25 deaths (0.00000862%)? Come on man...

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It's a novel virus. That's incredibly scary to anyone who understands what that means.

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Novel meaning something other than just `new' strain of coronavirus?