BoerneGator said:

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UncleNateFitch said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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aTm2004 said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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etcetera said:

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It is amazing that there are people defending this tweet by Trump.

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It's amazing people believe this isn't a political hit job.

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It's very possible to both attack that tweet and to believe Ford is being used for a political hit job.

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You don't know that poster.

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I've been getting treated like that poster.

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If nobody else will say it, I will. It's keithdb.

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If you're talking about the "ID" of the poster etcetera, it's StephenvilleAg77, aka SA77.

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I have never understood that ... banned does not mean banned ...

If I had been advising Dr. Ford, I think I would have maybe advised her to just let this go. Even if what she has reported did happen, it is such a huge length of time since the incident that the probability of anything conclusive being found that can get beyond a 'he said/she said' situation seems extremely low. Meanwhile, for every supporter that she may have out there, there is going to be a hater. The personal cost of getting ripped apart in public and getting sucked into eye of the Dem/Reb political fight has to be tremendous, and the chances of Kavanaugh eventually getting confirmed regardless seems pretty high.

Of course, too late now.

BoerneGator said:

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UncleNateFitch said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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aTm2004 said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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etcetera said:

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It is amazing that there are people defending this tweet by Trump.

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It's amazing people believe this isn't a political hit job.

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It's very possible to both attack that tweet and to believe Ford is being used for a political hit job.

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You don't know that poster.

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I've been getting treated like that poster.

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If nobody else will say it, I will. It's keithdb.

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If you're talking about the "ID" of the poster etcetera, it's StephenvilleAg77, aka SA77.

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Ahhhhh. That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering where that sock came from.

What exactly is she saying happened? First it was he and a friends were with her on a bed, he grabbed her boob outside her clothes. They rolled off the bed.

Now she's a "rape survivor" who barely escaped with her life. They tried to kill her?

BenFiasco14 said:

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etcetera said:

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Today from McConnell:

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What is wrong with this tweet? Why are you just showing up, squealing some outrage, then bailing the thread?

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Because that's StephenvilleAg77's MO. He's always been a "pot-stirrer"...

Pumpkinhead said:

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If I had been advising Dr. Ford, I think I would have maybe advised her to just let this go. Even if what she has reported did happen, it is just a huge length of time since the incident that the probability of anything conclusive being found that can get beyond a 'he said/she said' situation seems extremely low. Meanwhile, for every supporter that she may have out there, there is going to be a hater. The personal cost of getting ripped apart in public and getting sucked into eye of the Dem/Reb political fight has to be tremendous, and the chances of Kavanaugh eventually getting confirmed regardless seems pretty high.

Of course, too late now.

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Your faulty assumption is that the allegation is not merely a partisan hit job. Most likely that is exactly what it is.

This was planned out months advance to give max impact to her pathetically weak allegations... Drop the bomb after his hearing. Scrub her Democratic-activism social media. Dig up "therapist notes" that supposedly give validity (they don't). Perform a "lie detector" test (which has exactly zero merits: could have been a biased administrator, lie detector tests aren't reliable anyway, or maybe she believes it happened in error), research high school friends of Brett that were supposedly there (wait she remembers names of those guys there but doesn't remember the year it happened, where it happened, other very relevant details, etc)...

Grassley is playing this smart to give her another 24 hours. I would imagine that with all the information out in the public about this BSC woman plus all the other bad stuff found by Republican Investigators in the last week or so, Grassley is confident that they will nail this pathological nymphomaniac, of the highest order, if she has enough nerve to actually testify under oath. !!

I'm starting to think she will never testify. Anyone else feel that way?

That way, after Kavanaugh is confirmed, she can go on a media tour and tell her story with no brushback. She can then be called the victim forever and will be worshiped by the left.

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Pumpkinhead said:

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If I had been advising Dr. Ford, I think I would have maybe advised her to just let this go. Even if what she has reported did happen, it is just a huge length of time since the incident that the probability of anything conclusive being found that can get beyond a 'he said/she said' situation seems extremely low. Meanwhile, for every supporter that she may have out there, there is going to be a hater. The personal cost of getting ripped apart in public and getting sucked into eye of the Dem/Reb political fight has to be tremendous, and the chances of Kavanaugh eventually getting confirmed regardless seems pretty high.

Of course, too late now.

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Your faulty assumption is that the allegation is not merely a partisan hit job. Most likely that is exactly what it is.

This was planned out months advance to give max impact to her pathetically weak allegations... Drop the bomb after his hearing. Scrub her Democratic-activism social media. Dig up "therapist notes" that supposedly give validity (they don't). Perform a "lie detector" test (which has exactly zero merits: could have been a biased administrator, lie detector tests aren't reliable anyway, or maybe she believes it happened in error).

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I suppose it could be some plotted out thing on her part, but she has a career and family who are also going to pay part of a potentially high personal price as this all gets dragged through the mud. My guess is she believes what she is saying, but it was so long ago that it is very difficult to see how anything can get 'proved' one way or the other. So it is just an accusation that is obviously now a 'partisan hit job' as you called it, because the Democrats will of course grab onto anything they can to try to beat the other side. And so would the other side if the situation was reversed.

I was simply saying that if I'd have been advising her, I think I'd have recommended to just keep a private life. The political universe is a nasty one and chews people up. It doesn't seem like the type of universe that a typical person would really want to put their toe in. But she is in the middle of it now and exposed herself to now be used as a tool for a much more powerful machine with its own agendas.

Tailgate88 said:

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BoerneGator said:

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UncleNateFitch said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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aTm2004 said:

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Michael Barnhart said:

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It is amazing that there are people defending this tweet by Trump.

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It's amazing people believe this isn't a political hit job.

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It's very possible to both attack that tweet and to believe Ford is being used for a political hit job.

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You don't know that poster.

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I've been getting treated like that poster.

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If nobody else will say it, I will. It's keithdb.

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If you're talking about the "ID" of the poster etcetera, it's StephenvilleAg77, aka SA77.

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Ahhhhh. That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering where that sock came from.

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etcetera is SA77? LOL that makes sense.

Something tells me she is going to go back into hiding. I am not apologizing for her, but I think she bit off way more than she could chew here. She was not too emotionally stable to being with.

Another witness came forward to deny Dr. Ford's allegation....Patrick J. Smyth.

Another witness

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"I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth says in the statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."

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That is pathetic. F'ing Yale Law Professors demagoguing on a Supreme Court pick, just because he is conservative and they are not.

They all know damn well it is not the jurisdiction of the FBI to investigate supposed crimes from 35 years ago that have no federal relevance (local/state matter). The purpose of FBI background checks is merely to research one's background- not play judge and jury on random alleged state/local crimes from way back when. They all know this. But don't care. Ends justify means.

Pathetic.

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I think the scariest part of all of this has been how lockstep the entire Democratic Party/Liberals are over this. I do respect the fact they know how to get their base and leaders on the same page, it's almost like the Borg

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The Fabian Society is a socialist organization, been around since 1884.

Without knowing the exactly what Carson said, without the media spin and selective editing, he could have very well meant that the socialist agenda has been around as long as the Fabian Society and it continues today with the socialists opposing Kavanaugh.

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Obama is a Fabian Socialist. That isn't even debatable

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The Fabian Society is a British socialist organization whose purpose is to advance the principles of democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow.

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I'm fine giving her more time so long as it doesn't go beyond Wednesday. I still think she has no intention of testifying and they are just waiting for the the GOP to give a final no. Until then they can't go scorched earth. Guarantee you her lawyer was hoping last night that Grassley would have said it's over.

I bet she'll ask for either a hearing on Friday, or the following Monday.

alleged rape with few details shouldn't be on SC.

Alleged rape with more details disregard because the guy is going to be president.

backintexas2013 said:

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alleged rape with few details shouldn't be on SC.

Alleged rape with more details disregard because the guy is going to be president.

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She should have claimed that Kav "grabbed her by the *****". That would have killed the nomination.

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Another witness came forward to deny Dr. Ford's allegation....Patrick J. Smyth.

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"I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth says in the statement. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh."

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How many of the get togethers that you attended in high school with some alcohol consumption involved do you think you'd even remember the details of decades later?

The extremely long period of time since the alleged incident occurred, a supposedly single incident involving high school age people where alcohol was supposedly a factor, that is the most problematic thing in this saga. I don't see how anybody's recollection of such an alleged event can be very reliable. I don't see how anything can get 'proved' in this case one way or the other.

But of course...none of the above matters in politics. They'll try to wring as much as they can out of that rope.

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I bet she'll ask for either a hearing on Friday, or the following Monday.

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There are three witnesses that have currently sworn that Dr. Ford's allegations are false. There may be others. Kavanaugh already has a monster defamation case against Dr. Ford. No way that she will show up to testify.

garc said:

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To be technically correct....

Reid changed the rule to 51 for the undercard Federal judges.

McConnell changed applied it for scotus.

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FIFY

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Who cares what they "call for"?

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How many of the get togethers that you attended in high school with some alcohol consumption involved do you think you'd even remember the details of decades later?

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I can remember nearly all of mine....especially the ones that involved those of the opposite sex.

I'm still trying to figure out what "gluten in the air" is.

Gluten affects the gastrointestinal tract for people with an inabilty to break it down. How the F does it matter if there is "gluten in the air" even if that's possible?

Watching such an important process grind to a halt over such a ridiculous allegation is incredibly sad. This lady is pathetic. Anyone supporting her is pathetic. Anyone afraid to stand up and move forward is pathetic.

She won't testify under oath

Will keep demanding more ridiculous concessions and date push backs until they force the committee to say enough.

Then they can lie loudly and with impunity to try and scare some GOP votes away

GOP needs to get its **** together and be ready to vote him in the second the committee says "enough"

Let them whine and cry about Kav, they'll do that anyway.

Then have Trump ready to derail all that whining with a tweet announce that he's already decided that ACB will replace RBG

The Left will absolutely **** itself and forget all about Kav and Ford

Exactly. Where is the Dallas Morning News or Houston Chronicle articles that claims "1000s of A&M grads ask for investigation into accusers lies"? Why is the screeching of a bunch of liberal professors at an Ivy League school somehow relevant to this matter?

If the rumors are true, that she was blowing football players by the car load and slept her way through the PGA, I hope she does testify.

If she testifies and gets called out or looks like a loon - and I think Feinstein knows that's the case - she will be discredited.
Don't testify then she's set for life. All that noise about "her career and family are ruined" - bs. She'll be on The View within days, charge thousands to speak at the next Planned Parenthood conference, and be VIP at every women's march going forward.

Look at poor Anita Hill. Half a dozen books, HBO documentary, movies about her, dozens of honorary degrees, hero to the left. She's doing more than ok and this accuser doesn't want to mess up her potential star power.

backintexas2013 said:

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alleged rape with few details shouldn't be on SC.

Alleged rape with more details disregard because the guy is going to be president.

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IT ISN'T ALLEGED RAPE

The only thing alleged is an incident where she was held down and fondled for a period of a few minutes. I realize this is meant to be a joke but I am so tired of reading about a rape. IT WAS NOT RAPE.

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If the rumors are true, that she was blowing football players by the car load and slept her way through the PGA, I hope she does testify.

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Sounds like maybe she was a naaaaasty woman. Did I say that right?

Exactly