Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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Whatever the plan was, I don't think Feinstein thought for a second that Grassley's response would be, "yes, this is very serious. Please come tell your story so as to educate us on our vote."

The great part is that because of the dirty-political-hit style timing of all of this, they can't come back and claim timing issues.
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Has anyone mentioned that Kavanaugh's mother was the judge who dismissed a foreclosure action against Ford's parents?
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Squadron7 said:

blindey said:

MOCO9 said:

What gets me is the notion from the left that this one woman's allegations MUST be taken seriously
It is being taken seriously. Grassley said, "what you have to say is important. Please come and be heard by the committee so that we can take your testimony in consideration."

Her response has been crickets.

It is hard to know whose bluff is being called.

Given that there are no answers she can provide that can clear anything up and about a million questions that don't help her....I have to wonder if she/Dem handlers thought Kavanaugh would be pulled before it got to this point.



Trump isn't a ***** and it's rubbing off on some in the Senate.
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gigemtrev said:

Has anyone mentioned that Kavanaugh's mother was the judge who dismissed a foreclosure action against Ford's parents?

I'm sure that will be asked. Her social media that was scrubbed and the HS scrubbing stuff? I guarandamntee ya that Trump has it.
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gigemtrev said:

Has anyone mentioned that Kavanaugh's mother was the judge who dismissed a foreclosure action against Ford's parents?
I seem to remember seeing a tweet yesterday where that info was debunked.
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blindey said:

Whatever the plan was, I don't think Feinstein thought for a second that Grassley's response would be, "yes, this is very serious. Please come tell your story so as to educate us on our vote."

The great part is that because of the dirty-political-hit style timing of all of this, they can't come back and claim timing issues.
That was dumb then. Did they really think Grassley would just fold and let the matter go to the FBI?

If she refuses to testify, call the vote.
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TurkeyBaconLeg said:

gigemtrev said:

Has anyone mentioned that Kavanaugh's mother was the judge who dismissed a foreclosure action against Ford's parents?
I seem to remember seeing a tweet yesterday where that info was debunked.
Kavanaugh's mother was the judge that dismissed the foreclosure on a house that they still own today.

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A review of the filings shows that Judge Kavanaugh signed an order in 1997 dismissing the foreclosure after the Blaseys refinanced their home. The 10th item on the court docket reads, "ORDER OF COURT (KAVANAUGH, J./RICE, M.) THAT THE VOLUNTARY MOTION TO DISMISS IS HEREBY GRANTED WITH PREJUDICE AND THAT THE BOND FILED BY HARRY J. KELLY AS TRUSTEE SHALL BE RELEASED AND RETURNED FILED."

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I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
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FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...

Eff that. 1700 est today.
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blindey said:

MOCO9 said:

What gets me is the notion from the left that this one woman's allegations MUST be taken seriously
It is being taken seriously. Grassley said, "what you have to say is important. Please come and be heard by the committee so that we can take your testimony in consideration."

Her response has been crickets.
I agree it is being taken seriously. My point is how less willing the left is to take support for Judge Kavanaugh by women seriously. In other words, if you speak against Judge Kavanaugh you must be taken seriously, if you speak for him you must not. Not surprising in the least, just another example of the double standard that has become the norm
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FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
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My guess (not a stretch), this was planned and orchestrated for months. They likely expected this response and 100s of other possibilities. Someone has a decision tree / playbook they are following or being directed to follow.

This has the fingerprints of Hillary and Obama all over it.

Its a cold civil war w/o question. They can't get rid of trump but they can try to steal the bench.
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aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
What happens if Grassley make the ultimatum, she doesn't accept, the vote is scheduled for Thursday, and the dims no-show the vote?
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FireAg said:

aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
What happens if Grassley make the ultimatum, she doesn't accept, the vote is scheduled for Thursday, and the dims no-show the vote?
If you are talking about the committee vote, it comes down to Flake. He's the swing vote. One seat GOP majority on that committee.
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FireAg said:

aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
What happens if Grassley make the ultimatum, she doesn't accept, the vote is scheduled for Thursday, and the dims no-show the vote?

Probably the same thing that would happen if they all show and vote "no."

They'll just menstruate a bit longer, but they'll be doing that the entire time Trump is in office.
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aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
What happens if Grassley make the ultimatum, she doesn't accept, the vote is scheduled for Thursday, and the dims no-show the vote?
If you are talking about the committee vote, it comes down to Flake. He's the swing vote. One seat GOP majority on that committee.
And how can McConnell bypass the committee and bring a vote to the floor?
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You can't cancel the hearing by giving a deadline.

Let the invite float in the wind the rest of this week and thru the weekend. If you pull the invite at this point or give a deadline of 24 or 48 hours to respond you are giving the Dems the ammo they want. Cancel and the narrative blasted out over the internet and on TV, except for Fox, will be, "evil sexist white Republican senators deny "victim" the right to tell her story". Keep up with the "we really want to hear her side of the story".
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FireAg said:

aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.
What happens if Grassley make the ultimatum, she doesn't accept, the vote is scheduled for Thursday, and the dims no-show the vote?
If you are talking about the committee vote, it comes down to Flake. He's the swing vote. One seat GOP majority on that committee.
And how can McConnell bypass the committee and bring a vote to the floor?
By scheduling a full vote of the Senate. The hearings have been completed. They are currently re-opened but if she fails to accept the invitation and give assurances she will be there, Grassley cancels the Monday hearing and they are closed again. Then McConnell schedules the full vote. (After counting heads of course.)
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aggiehawg said:

If there's no sperm, you must confirm!


Well played
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PanzerAggie06 said:

You can't cancel the hearing by giving a deadline.

Let the invite float in the wind the rest of this week and thru the weekend. If you pull the invite at this point or give a deadline of 24 or 48 hours to respond you are giving the Dems the ammo they want. Cancel and the narrative blasted out over the internet and on TV, except for Fox, will be, "evil sexist white Republican senators deny "victim" the right to tell her story". Keep up with the "we really want to hear her side of the story".
I understand where you are coming from but delaying it for a week won't accomplish anything. If she won't testify under oath on Monday, she will never testify. And Feinstein can block any subpoenas to force her to testify before the Senate.
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I agree that there is a point in which the Republicans will have to move on an take a vote. Whether she testifies or not. I feel that it is way to early to be discussing a cancellation. Let it sit out there for a while and see if the Dems bite.
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aggiehawg said:

FireAg said:

I'd tell her she has until noon tomorrow to accept the invite for Monday, and if they don't hear from her, the Thursday vote proceeds as scheduled...
Like that idea but should be by COB today.

I also hope Kavanaugh sues the crap out of her.

He's a public figure, how can that happen?

I heard the reason she did not mention Judge by name was to avoid a suit since he is not a public figure.
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aggiehawg said:

If there's no sperm, you must confirm!


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I'd like to see Kavanaugh sue twitter and Facebook for publishing all of the claims made about him.
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Grain of salt and whatnot

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I think the Democrats are trying to get the FBI to do a formal investigation, which will drag this out for a long time and maybe get Kavanaugh in a perjury trap ! Maybe they will push for Strzok to get re-hired to perform the investigation.
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captkirk said:

Grain of salt and whatnot


Holy balls that's awesome if true.
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Wow, and Gotsuch attended the same prep school at about the same time. Good school.
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It's most likely this hag is making the whole thing up.

I think the most likely scenario is that something like she is describing did happen, only it didn't involve Kavanaugh, it wasn't necessarily at any party, and she wasn't an unwilling participant.

I was in high school during this era. Not that it was unlike any other era, but had anything close to what she alleged happened, EVERYONE would have known about it. We had a small get together of my HS class a few months ago. About 15 of us were there -- including 2 girls that got pregnant during HS. We got to talking about the other ones that got pregnant and who all was involved. I told a story, leaving out a name, of what i had heard about one girl. The story involved a guy who was supposedly willing to marry her, which was strange as it turned out because he ended up coming out as gay (another not so well kept secret). Anyway, one guy said, "yeah, that was Darryl...." I thought only a small (i.e. 4 or 5) number of people knew about it. Most there were aware of it.

The only secrets kept from HS are the ones people have forgotten about because they weren't sexy enough to remember or tell others about repeatedly.
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Fox News was reporting at lunch time that the Democrats now want the White House Counsel to be grilled by the committee, because they're claiming he knew about Kavanaugh being a rapist months ago.

Of course, this is just another delaying tactic. They want the red state Democrats not to have to vote for Kavanaugh to save their seats, but also risk Dem voter backlash, and to try and push this past the midterms, or even into the next Congress where they hope to have control.
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Would love it if true, but I don't believe anybody's Twitter anymore.
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Quote:

I think the Democrats are trying to get the FBI to do a formal investigation, which will drag this out for a long time and maybe get Kavanaugh in a perjury trap

The main idea of this was to get the confirmation vote past the mid terms so red state democrat sentors wouldn't have to vote for him to get reelected.
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OlSarge92 said:

My guess (not a stretch), this was planned and orchestrated for months. They likely expected this response and 100s of other possibilities. Someone has a decision tree / playbook they are following or being directed to follow.

This has the fingerprints of Hillary and Obama all over it.

Its a cold civil war w/o question. They can't get rid of trump but they can try to steal the bench.


As we all know, Trump has published a list of prospective Sumpreme Court nominees.

My bet is that the Dems took each and every name from the list and has laid the foundations and planted "evidence" to play this game with all of them.

Kavanaugh was picked so let open up the Kavanaugh file and pull out the fake dirt and claims we can use on him. Time to call that Ford woman!! You're up to bay Mrs Ford.

Heck. They probably have a file in every single consecutive judge out there
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captkirk said:

Grain of salt and whatnot


Would surprise me exactly zero if true.
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Gorsuch was a sophomore when Kavanaugh was a senior at Georgetown Prep.
WAPO

Blasey was an alcoholic cheerleader........

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