Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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Ruth Bader Ginsberg has been accused of molesting a young man in 1868.

I'm slow, I read it as 1968,
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So for now Feinstein is refusing to work with Grassley to set up follow up calls with Kavanaugh and Ford.

This is according to a Ben Shapiro Daily Wire article that just hit.

On a mobile so don't have time to figure out how to link it.

Hate these a-holes!
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Republicans need to put their foot down and call for the vote, plain and simple. Need to end this charade now!
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He didn't even make it to 2nd base.
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So for now Feinstein is refusing to work with Grassley to set up follow up calls with Kavanaugh and Ford.
If this is true, they need to proceed with the vote as planned.
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AggieUSMC said:

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So for now Feinstein is refusing to work with Grassley to set up follow up calls with Kavanaugh and Ford.
If this is true, they need to proceed with the vote as planned.


1st paragraph from Daily Wire article.

"Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said in a press statement on Monday that he has tried to coordinate a follow-up with Judge Brett Kavanaugh's accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, with Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) office but that she has so far refused."
Old Tom Morris
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Then move on and schedule a vote for this week (which they should be doing anyway).
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Edit:
Been covered.
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It's all a setup to cover for stalling. They seem inordinately desperate right now. What are they trying to cover up themselves? They won't be able to block Trump most likely even after November the way things are stacking up.
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FriscoKid said:

He didn't even make it to 2nd base.

Um....unless there has been new information the complainant has yet to show he was ever even at the plate.
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MouthBQ98 said:

It's all a setup to cover for stalling. They seem inordinately desperate right now. What are they trying to cover up themselves? They won't be able to block Trump most likely even after November the way things are stacking up.

This. Stalling and SUDDENLY will make her available right before Thursday - but not too soon. If she appears, it will be scheduled after the midterms.

Then she'll decide not to testify.

It's all so transparent to be laughable. Thankfully, Trump isn't the docile scardy cat RINO - he'll just power right through it.
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If republicans cram the vote through then democrats will have their campaign issue that they can get the base energized behind.

I'm OK playing the long game here. This will piss off republican voters if they let the libs delay this vote.
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FriscoKid said:

If republicans cram the vote through then democrats will have their campaign issue that they can get the base energized behind.

I'm OK playing the long game here. This will piss off republican voters if they let the libs delay this vote.
I tend to agree with this. I'm not sure ... this may really backfire on the Democrats ...
One day at a time.
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aginlakeway said:

FriscoKid said:

If republicans cram the vote through then democrats will have their campaign issue that they can get the base energized behind.

I'm OK playing the long game here. This will piss off republican voters if they let the libs delay this vote.
I tend to agree with this. I'm not sure ... this may really backfire on the Democrats ...


I feel like the only people that would be incensed by pushing Kavanaugh through at this juncture we're already going to vote and vote dem anyway regardless.
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-confirmation-four-ways-democrats-plan-to-derail-nomination-could-backfire.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true


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That's not to say that Democrats have no chance of using Ford's allegation to defeat Judge Kavanaugh. But the odds of falling flat on their face are greater.

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Under this scenario, Judge Kavanaugh's nomination would be withdrawn before the month is out. President Trump would respond by quickly picking another nominee from the already vetted short list he compiled in July. No one on that list is more ideologically acceptable to Democrats than Kavanaugh, so they would have no reason to cheer the switch.

Even if Democrats overcome the odds and retake the Senate, the outgoing GOP majority would still have three months to confirm the new nominee. Senators wouldn't even have to cut their pre-election recess short to get the job done.



Let it play out...

Edit: and this is what I was saying earlier. There are far worse choices for libs than Kavanaugh.
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Here's a crazy flier of an idea:

[dons tin foil hat]

Bear with me on this post. The CIA is broadcasting the Quantico cafeteria menu directly into my brain via the fillings in my teeth, so its a bit tough to type this out.

What if internals are showing a strong likelihood of a midterm pickup in the Senate? This is possible because of how many vulnerable democrats are on the ballot.

So they let hearings proceed. Election happens, Rs pick up seats, no longer have a need to appease the Collins types. Trump responds by saying, "you know what, the Democrats shameful actions in the Kavenaugh confirmation process have tainted him as a potential supreme court justice, so his nomination is withdrawn." And then nominate someone much more openly to the right.

[removes tinfoil hat]

Real story? I think you just confirm the guy. If Feinstien believed that this loon was credible, she would have raised it at one of several opportunities to do so.

At best (or worst) she kept it in her back pocket in the event that Kavenaugh did not slip up during confirmation and it looked like there was nothing else that could be done.
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blindey said:

Here's a crazy flier of an idea:

[dons tin foil hat]

Bear with me on this post. The CIA is broadcasting the Quantico cafeteria menu directly into my brain via the fillings in my teeth, so its a bit tough to type this out.

What if internals are showing a strong likelihood of a midterm pickup in the Senate? This is possible because of how many vulnerable democrats are on the ballot.

So they let hearings proceed. Election happens, Rs pick up seats, no longer have a need to appease the Collins types. Trump responds by saying, "you know what, the Democrats shameful actions in the Kavenaugh confirmation process have tainted him as a potential supreme court justice, so his nomination is withdrawn." And then nominate someone much more openly to the right.

[removes tinfoil hat]

Real story? I think you just confirm the guy. If Feinstien believed that this loon was credible, she would have raised it at one of several opportunities to do so.

At best (or worst) she kept it in her back pocket in the event that Kavenaugh did not slip up during confirmation and it looked like there was nothing else that could be done.
I think it's more likely if you let the dems "win" this game...
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How long before Judiciary Committee Dems demand Judge Kavanaugh submit to a lie detector polygraph?

Or dare they?
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FriscoKid said:

He didn't even make it to 2nd base.


Probably never even met her...
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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Tater Salad said:

How long before Judiciary Committee Dems demand Judge Kavanaugh submit to a lie detector polygraph?

Or dare they?
I don't think they want to set this precedent
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Tater Salad said:

How long before Judiciary Committee Dems demand Judge Kavanaugh submit to a lie detector polygraph?

Or dare they?
Because the "victim" would have to take another one too. They don't want that.
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Tater Salad said:

How long before Judiciary Committee Dems demand Judge Kavanaugh submit to a lie detector polygraph?

Or dare they?
What they really want is to hook up electrodes to him that will shock him in the nuts every time he answers one of their silly questions in a way that makes them look petty.
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Republicans are scared of their own shadows. It seems all it takes to grind the wheels of government to a halt is a loose accusation by someone with a vagina.
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Beaux12 said:

Republicans are scared of their own shadows. It seems all it takes to grind the wheels of government to a halt is a loose accusation by someone with a vagina.
They always are terrified of being called racist, sexist, bigoted, etc. by the media and Democrats.
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Amazing, libs are only pro-choice as long as the man or kid aren't allowed to make the decision...
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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ccaggie05 said:

I have no clue if this story is true but the timing sure is suspect. It speaks volumes that Feinstein sat on this for months and only now, on the eve of a vote, decides to move forward. That shows that she cares more about politics than if a sexual assault occurred or not.

I also find it kind of gross how everybody is so quick to jump on this side acting as they know without a shadow of a doubt what the truth is. The left is convinced that Kavanaugh is an attempted rapist. The right is convinced it's all lies and the accuser is a lying sack of **** that deserves whatever abuse that comes to her. The reality is, nobody knows a damn thing and people don't care about the truth, they just care that their "team" wins the fight.

This whole nomination process has been a disgrace, so much so that even RBG has said so. Hell modern day politics is a disgrace.
You're right; nobody but the three involved know for sure what happened or if anything happened.

But, we all know:

1. The timing is suspect with Feinstein sitting on the letter until the eve of the committee vote.
2. There's only a very small chance anything can be proven one way or the other.
3. Even if it were true, it happened in high school, and the only people who will think it should disqualify him are those that oppose the nomination on ideological grounds and the very small number of people who actually have high moral standards for politicians...Bill Clinton proved that over 20 years ago.

All of this combines to tell us that waiting will have no effect on opinions. So, I don't care if they wait a few more days or not but it seems silly to waste the money these additional hearings will cost when the outcome will not change.
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If she testifies before the committee the spin doctors on both sides are going to be extremely busy. Whichever side most effectively gets their storyline in front of the American people could very well decide whether he is confirmed or not.

The right will attempt to play up the Clarence Thomas approach, aka. high tech lynching. Which may be difficult given that he's not black. The left will play solely on peoples emotion, aka. the poor emotionally devastated "victim" can't possibly be lying. Facts will not be a part of the equation. Sadly, given the state of our hyper emotional political environment they might very well be successful. And since the GOP has a handful of senators whose hate for Trump is so voracious its not outside reasonable thought that they turn and side with the Democrats.
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Beaux12 said:

Republicans are scared of their own shadows. It seems all it takes to grind the wheels of government to a halt is a loose accusation by someone with a vagina.
I think we've seen enough mobs and reaction to them to be rightly concerned with #metoo stuff gets tossed around. Someone might want to check with Chris Hardwick to see how fun his summer was. He ended up with a lot of free time on his hands (not by his choosing) thanks to completely unfounded accusations. A career hung in the balance.
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Old Tom Morris said:

Beaux12 said:

Republicans are scared of their own shadows. It seems all it takes to grind the wheels of government to a halt is a loose accusation by someone with a vagina.
I think we've seen enough mobs and reaction to them to be rightly concerned with #metoo stuff gets tossed around. Someone might want to check with Chris Hardwick to see how fun his summer was. He ended up with a lot of free time on his hands (not by his choosing) thanks to completely unfounded accusations. A career hung in the balance.
Thankfully he survived it when all the evidence came out that she was just BSC and made it up.
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SIAP
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biobioprof said:

SIAP


Well, Twitter says she had 70 sex partners before turning 18 - can't blame her for having trouble keeping it all straight.
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This is all you need to know. Go ahead with vote.

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So the Dems are demanding answers....but can't even be bothered to ask the questions?

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