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Told you they were up to their eyeballs in that.Maybe Ambassador Stephens found out about that and needed to be "removed"??

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Seems that way. It could have been the Libyans that told Stephens about the "theft".

How is it possible to move that much gold, silver, and cash without someone involved in the operation leaking the details?

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Because they killed the guys there? Paid off the rest?

Seeing his picture comes under the category of "one can never be sued for enough money".

I'm thrilled by this decision and hope Passantino makes Weissman's life as uncomfortable as possible. Or, as uncomfortable as that POS made the people in his decisions.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/20/judge-rules-msnbc-pundit-potentially-defamed-trump-attorney/

When I first heard Passantino's interview on Tucker, I couldn't believe a witness would switch testimony AFTER the deposition.

BTW, Hawg, Megyn Kelly's episode 947 (Monday, 11/18/24) had Glenn Greenwald and David Harsanyi.

Around the 1hour and 25 minute mark, Harsanyi has a chat with Kelly about Gaetz. It's the best review of Gaetz' actions as a congressman I've heard. No matter your feelings on Gaetz, they make a decent summation of Gaetz possibly being the man necessary for the AG job.

My feelings on Gaetz grew to be luke warm. Over the last five years, I just decided he was more of a blowhard. I didn't even know he was an attorney.

Speaking of conversations, I happen to contact my rep, Jake Ellzey, in DC two days ago on the way home from work about the missing 143 tons of gold in Libya.

The girl who answered the phone had to be educated about the situation, but I told her to tell my rep to make sure the new DNI/CIA pick is very aware of the information, that it hasn't been released and barely reported on.

The Americans need to know where that gold went and who has it.

The great part was at the end of the 7-8 minute phone call; she said she was looking forward to getting home for Thanksgiving and going to the A&M-tu game November 30th.

Turns out, she's class of '18.

Hope y'all found value.

We have rules around here.

I have the Dagon and Antonakakis DNC hack attribution report from August 7, 2016.

Antonakakis and Dagon are referenced as Researchers 1 and 2 respectively in the Sussmann indictment owing to their roles in the Alfa Bank stuff.

Stand by 😊

— Undead FOIA 3.0 (@UndeadFoia) November 21, 2024

Man, I'm sorry.

I just talked to her.

Guess I'll have to look up Ellzey's staff in DC.

Just an update, although I read it quickly and didn't take time to completely understand it.

What I did understand is Chutkin approving it without prejudice. There's a bunch of other words I'd prefer to use in front of her name, but not at the expense of never posting again. Surely there's got to be a SOL around. Am I the only person who seems to recognize SOL's only appear to be recognized by our communist brethren on the left?

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Here are my observations on Jack Smith raising the white flag and moving to dismiss his “J6” case against Trump:

1) The motion seeks dismissal without prejudice. This is absurd and raises the prospect that Judge Chutkan will grant that relief and leave a Sword of Damocles… https://t.co/Tn2yK6AKlR

— Jeff Clark (@JeffClarkUS) November 25, 2024

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Without Prejudice...

It is official.

Judge Tanya Chutkan grants motion to dismiss J6 case pic.twitter.com/ORi7h0pLvs

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) November 25, 2024

I wouldn't sweat the without prejudice part too much. Fact is they would still need a new indictment, not a superceding indictment. DOJ porlice and procedure would prohibit convening a grand jury with Trump as the target while he's a sitting POTUS.

Most federal crime SOLs are five years. That takes it up to Jan 2026.

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I wouldn't sweat the without prejudice part too much. Fact is they would still need a new indictment, not a superceding indictment. DOJ porlice and procedure would prohibit convening a grand jury with Trump as the target while he's a sitting POTUS.

Most federal crime SOLs are five years. That takes it up to Jan 2026.

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Wouldn't the next DOJ and some D.C. judge just say it's tolled while Trump is in office?

It's over. Dems won't want to focus their 2028-2029 message around prosecuting Trump for 2020 crap. Everything else is just propaganda, imho.

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I wouldn't sweat the without prejudice part too much. Fact is they would still need a new indictment, not a superceding indictment. DOJ porlice and procedure would prohibit convening a grand jury with Trump as the target while he's a sitting POTUS.

Most federal crime SOLs are five years. That takes it up to Jan 2026.

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Wouldn't the next DOJ and some D.C. judge just say it's tolled while Trump is in office?

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The entire premise behind this Lawfare was to prevent Trump's re-election. It failed. It's over

Notice the Trump team this time, after learning from the Obama-Biden wiretaps/Flynn/NSC ambush last time, isn't going to use any GSA resources before being sworn in.

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In other words, the Trump-Vance Transition Team confirms it has the requisite ethics plan and will post it on the GSA website as required under the Act, but oh, by the way, it won't be availing itself of taxpayer funding or government buildings or technology via the GSA. Chalk that up to Trump learning the hard way the pitfalls of trusting too readily in an outgoing administration.

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Trump says that his transition team will not use government resources because they want to save money. However, this is merely a smokescreen. What's really happening is that Trump has learned from past experiences, particularly what they did to @genflynn during the previous… pic.twitter.com/M1lFcEVCog

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) November 26, 2024

Bonus takeaway; Fauxcahontas is a lying moron, in case you didn't know.

Almost like they will be storming the beaches:

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• The Transition will not utilize taxpayer funding for costs related to the transition, which is consistent with President Trump's commitment to save taxpayers' hard-earned money,
• The Transition will not use government buildings or technology provided by GSA and will operate as a self-sufficient organization. This organizational autonomy means a streamlined process that guarantees the Trump Administration is ready on Day 1.
• The Transition already has existing security and information protections built in, which means we will not require additional government and bureaucratic oversight.
• The Transition has an existing Ethics Plan for those involved, which will meet the requirements for personnel to seamlessly move into the Trump Administration. Pursuant to the Transition Enhancement Act, that Ethics Plan will be posted to the website of the General Services Administration website.
• The Transition landing teams will quickly integrate directly into federal agencies and departments with access to documents and policy sharing.
• Per the agreement, the Transition will disclose the landing team members to the Biden Administration.
• The agreement dictates that the Trump-Vance Transition will utilize private funding, again, providing cost savings to American taxpayers. Donors to the Transition will be disclosed to the public. Consistent with Transition policy already in place, the Transition will not accept foreign donations.

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In any crime investigation, one of the first tasks of the detectives is to determine when the crime occurred. The metadata of the DNC archive at Wikileaks provides more or less irrefutable evidence that the DNC emails were exfiltrated on May 23, 2016 and May 25, 2016 in two sessions totaling about 76 minutes in length. Yet this information appears nowhere in official reporting.

Worse, there is evidence that the original intel assessments on the DNC hack - the assessments which influenced the Crossfire Hurricane investigation and the January 6, 2017 ICA - incorrectly placed the exfiltration of DNC emails one month too early - in April 2016.

Such an error would have multiple consequences:

• first, the incorrect dating to April 2016 meant that the emails were exfiltrated before CrowdStrike arrived on scene and, thus, by the time that CrowdStrike arrived, it was too late. The search for fault accordingly turned to why CrowdStrike was called so late. (This theme dominates the Senate Intelligence Committee report.) In fact, the emails were exported three weeks after CrowdStrike arrived on the scene. Which makes it entirely legimate to ask why CrowdStrike's supposedly super-duper cybersecurity not only failed to protect the DNC from exporting of emails by an "adversary" known to be in the system, but didn't even observe the exfiltration of 2 GB of emails and data. The April 2016 misdating seems to have totally forestalled such questioning.
• second, and perhaps most importantly, an April 2016 misdating was essential for the Crossfire Hurricane predicate that Papadopoulos had foreknowledge of the DNC hack at his meetings with the Australian diplomats on May 6, 2016 and/or May 10, 2016. An April 22, 2016 exfiltration date meant that it would be (theoretically) possible for Mifsud to have told Papadopoulos of this development at their (supposed) meeting of April 26, 2016. But since the DNC emails were not exported until May 23-25, 2016, it was impossible for Papadopoulos to have had the (supposed) foreknowledge that predicated the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

The One of the few windows into early intelligence on this issue was the memoir of James Clapper, the Obama administration Director of National Intelligence, published in June 2018. Clapper clearly and incorrectly placed the export of DNC emails in April 2016 - one month prior to their actual export.

In this article, I will first discuss what is known for sure from metadata about the exfiltration of DNC emails, then, after discussing Clapper's dating, will examine other contemporary reporting that pointed to incorrect April 2016 dating.

Known For Sure
Every email in the Wikileaks DNC archive was linked to its eml format version, which contained date and timestamp information on the date-time that the eml document was copied, as well as the date-time that the email was sent.
While the sent-time metadata attracted attention early on (Climate Audit, Sep 2, 2017; wh1sks, Oct 2017), the first known utilization of the eml-time metadata appears to have been in January 2019, when with_integrity reported (X link) that all of the DNC emails in the original July 22, 2016 publication (emails 1-22456) had datestamps of May 23, 2016 or May 25, 2016. He also observed that the second publication (November 5, 2016) of DNC emails at Wikileaks had eml-timestamps on August 26. 2016 and September 21, 2016 and that Podesta email archive (except for two anomalous emails) had eml-times on September 19, 2016. His key table is shown below.




This tweet was followed up with more detailed reporting by with_integrity in February 2019 here and more definitively in April 2019 by Forensicator here.

In these articles, other key details were described:

• the DNC archive published on July 22, 2016 was just under 1 GB in size; its component eml's had sequential timestamps showing a continuous and steady rate of exfiltration over a combined period of approximately 76 minutes (May 23 - 33 minutes; May 25 = 43 minutes). The observed exfiltration rate for DNC emails was approximately 0.4 MB/second (two orders of magnitude slower than the widely publicized copying rate (47 MB/second) of the Guccifer 2 documents on July 5, 2016 - a different operation which will not be discussed today.)
• the May 25 export was done sequentially for six individual mailboxes without interruption between mailboxes.
• the sent times for emails within each mailbox go right up to the exfiltration times.
• Forensicator's analysis timestamps proved convincingly that the timestamps for the DNC emails shown above were in Pacific timezone - a surprising discovery that has been little discussed
• in the second (little discussed) publication of DNC emails - published on November 5, 2016, the latest sent times were on May 23, 2016, from which it was convincingly argued by Forensicator that these were exported on May 23, 2016 in the same operation as the single May 23 mailbox (Miranda) published in the first tranche;
• in the first publication (July 22, 2016), within each mailbox, the emails were exported in the following order: by folder within the mailbox (Sent folder last) and latest-to-earliest within each folder. The Wikileaks numbering was in order of export. In the second publication, the emails were exported in order of increasing size. (Unpublished analysis).
• the DNC had a 30-day retention policy. While the original general understanding was that the emails went back to January 2015, most of the folders do not contain any emails prior to the 30-day retention period and, for the four mailboxes exported on May 23, 2016, none show emails prior to a 30-day retention period.
• In total, 97.5% of all the emails were sent between April 19, 2016 and the latest date of May 25, 2016, contrary to any implication that there had been continuous monitoring. This was pointed out (by myself) as early as September 2, 2017 and independently in fall 2017 by wh1sks.
• the eml-times for the DNC emails with datestamps on May 23, 2016, May 25, 2016 and August 26, 2016 are in FAT format - a format used in thumb drives. According to past technical discussion, FAT format also occurs in some older forms of zip compression.
• in general terms: if eml documents are uploaded to a server within a zip file (or similar compression file), the underlying eml-timestamps remain unchanged, but if they are uploaded as contents in a directory, the timestamps are updated to the time of copying. This suggests that a zipfile containing the May 23 and May 25, 2016 emails were transferred to the Wikileaks server and unzipped on the server, whereas (for the DNC emails) we know that the emails in the August 26, 2016 and September 21, 2016 batches had been exfiltrated on May 23, 2016 and that the later eml-times showed that the emails had been unzipped prior to the server and uploaded sequentially.

Clapper 2018

Turning now to Clapper's 2018 memoir (link) entitled "Facts and Fears: Hard Truths from a Life in Intelligence". Clapper stated that "in April [2016], Russia used a third-party 'cutout' to send more than nineteen thousand DNC emails and more than eight thousand documents to Wikileaks and Julian Assange" (The numbers - 19,000 emails and more than 8,000 documents - match the figures originally reported by Wikileaks at their website.)




Clapper was interviewed by Michael Isikoff (one of the earliest users of Steele dossier claims) in June 2018 shortly after publication (covering article; podcast).

Isikoff was particularly interested in the "cutout" (about minute 24:30-26:30 in podcast) who, according to Clapper, transferred the hacked emails to Wikileaks. Isikoff said to Clapper:

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One line in the book leapt out at me. It's never been clear how the Russians transmitted DNC and Podesta emails to Wikileaks. It's always been a gap - how did they get there. In the book, in April, Russia used a third party cutout attempting to cover their tracks. That suggested to me that you know who the cutout was".

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Clapper refrained from divulging anything further, but said that they were "pretty confident" that they had identified the "cutout" who had transmitted the DNC emails to Wikileaks in April.

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— The National Pulse (@TheNatPulse) December 17, 2024

It's an official DOJ report.

That says both Schiff and Swalwell and several top Congressional staffers were KNOWINGLY leaking classified materials to news outlets to drive the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA hoax.

It was not the FBI or the DOJ IG running a 3+ year investigation into the… pic.twitter.com/7yGt4x3XwP

— Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit (@drawandstrike) December 17, 2024

Preemptive pardons "signed" by Biden in 3..2.1…

Also, domestic political actions to unlawfully obstruct or try to unseat the president is sedition, not treason. Treason requires service to a foreign entity, not selfish domestic political aims. Treason is a harsher sentence but sedition is easier to establish in court and can come in a variety of charges like defrauding the US, etc…

Drain. The. Swamp.

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Preemptive pardons "signed" by Biden in 3..2.1…

Also, domestic political actions to unlawfully obstruct or try to unseat the president is sedition, not treason. Treason requires service to a foreign entity, not selfish domestic political aims. Treason is a harsher sentence but sedition is easier to establish in court and can come in a variety of charges like defrauding the US, etc…

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While I wouldn't be surprised, Schiff was also part of the Pelosi cabal that booted Biden from the ticket. So Jill may have something to say about that.

It depends on who is the real Edith Wilson/Elanor Roosevelt with the most clout hovering behind the president's desk at any given moment, I suppose, but you could be right. Biden would probably love to leave those who betrayed him exposed to a justice he wouldn't get the blame for pursuing.

Trump needs to make sure his PDB includes a list of all NSD counter-intelligence investigation targets and subjects. He also needs at least two very trusted aids who are briefed daily about counter-intelligence investigations the FBI is conducting, FISA warrants (both kinds), and all domestic surveillance operations.

NSC 'reforms' are going to be critical, as well. No more Vindman's or Ciaramella's snooping on his calls live. EO that 'need to know' will not include CIA/NSC staff on a given presidential communication/call unless a written request/requirement is provided and fully justified/approved. Ambassadors/state department foreign affairs officers and staff should be restricted from all communication with CIA/USAID officials unless a written summary can be provided within 24 hours to the White House. An EO that foreign policy priorities are decided by Trump and Trump alone should be issued on day 1, regarding but not limited to China and Russia as well, and that all prior administration priorities are not policy unless/until confirmed by executive memo/order.

Whoever the acting FBI director is at 12:01pm on the 20th of Jan (Abbatte?) should be fired immediately and the new FBI director given orders to report as to all surveillance and investigations regarding any individual Trump has spoken with in the past 10 years that are ongoing, as well as all Bureau employees promoted and/or made a member of the senior executive service within the past 12 months.

Just a few random thoughts I hope Trump's folks are thinking through.

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Trump needs to make sure his PDB includes a list of all NSD counter-intelligence investigation targets and subjects. He also needs at least two very trusted aids who are briefed daily about counter-intelligence investigations the FBI is conducting, FISA warrants (both kinds), and all domestic surveillance operations.

NSC 'reforms' are going to be critical, as well. No more Vindman's or Ciaramella's snooping on his calls live. EO that 'need to know' will not include CIA/NSC staff on a given presidential communication/call unless a written request/requirement is provided and fully justified/approved. Ambassadors/state department foreign affairs officers and staff should be restricted from all communication with CIA/USAID officials unless a written summary can be provided within 24 hours to the White House. An EO that foreign policy priorities are decided by Trump and Trump alone should be issued on day 1, regarding but not limited to China and Russia as well, and that all prior administration priorities are not policy unless/until confirmed by executive memo/order.

Whoever the acting FBI director is at 12:01pm on the 20th of Jan (Abbatte?) should be fired immediately and the new FBI director given orders to report as to all surveillance and investigations regarding any individual Trump has spoken with in the past 10 years that are ongoing, as well as all Bureau employees promoted and/or made a member of the senior executive service within the past 12 months.

Just a few random thoughts I hope Trump's folks are thinking through.

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Don't forget the supervising judge on the FISA Court. DNI can demand a full accounting of cases present and ongoing as well as past applications and extensions.

Absolutely. I think many of us can expand on that list, and I do have some confidence Trump has a big list of checks he plans to put in place, just wanted to make some 'footnotes' if you will as to the Russiagate(s) lessons I hope Trump has learned, and puts solid policies/procedures/EO's into practice to prevent this kind of treason again.

A full list would be much beyond the scope of TA posting/TOS. Every single email/phone call made from the top floor of the Hoover building should also be preserved for a minimum of 24 months on a WH server in case the Executive needs to pull it back up, and no official business can be communicated on private phones by FBI employees. I'd also require that hardware upgrades/wipes of old phones be preserved through 2028 pending review, and order that all messaging apps (including encrypted third party) be cloud backed up/preserved moving forward.

Oh, and the lovebird's payoff from Garland should be investigated as to corruption, heck rico maybe even.

Also want to point out that the FISA Court only knows about what is put before them. And as we learned several years back, the FBI was running an illegal operation wherein they allowed outside people to use their access to NSA metadata, without supervision nor records of who was accessing it.

Going back, it was during Mueller's time as FBI Director wherein Mueller was rebuked about misuse of the FISA powers and his response became what is called the Woods File. They needed a lot of documentation to support those applications. But then going forward, we learn the FBI was just faking those Woods Files or outright altering them.