Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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sicandtiredTXN said:

Elias is just being a pompous arrogant pr*ck as always who thinks he's untouchable, completely leaving out the particularly notable truth is that he's being called by Durham as a prosecutorial witness in the Sussmann case.
And is still filing frivolous lawsuits.

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On the surface, it sounds like a serious challenge is being waged against an iniquity. Three separate voting groups have filed suit against the Georgia State Elections Board over new rules put in place stemming from the recent voter integrity law the state passed that had the country in an imbalanced uproar, which would appear to indicate there is a severe violation in place threatening.
That is until you read the court filing and see how ludicrous this current claim turns out to be.
The suit has been brought by Democratic Party legal bomb-thrower Marc Elias, helping to file this by a coalition of Vote.org, the Georgia Alliance of Retired Americans, and Priorities USA. The suit takes issue with the requirement that submissions for absentee ballots must be filled out by the voter and submitted with a written signature by the deadline date in order to receive a ballot in the mail. The issue? As stated in the court filing:
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The question posed by this lawsuit is simple: can the State of Georgia use arcane rules and administrative traps to deny absentee ballots to eligible voters?
What specifically do they have a problem with this filing? This rule prohibits the submission online and the use of a digital signature, something that can aid those looking to submit ballots in bulk or through other nefarious means. What angers these groups is the requirement of a request needing to be submitted with a name and signature appearing with ink that is, what is dubbed to be a "wet signature." The opposition to this most basic operation in document verification is the ridiculous part it is said to be racist.
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He's already been sanctioned by the 5th Circuit for lying to the courts.
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We fixed the keg said:

I know I am probably begging here, but could Marc Elias be getting setup as the stooge. Reading this article makes me think the power brokers have agreed on the sacrificial lamb.

Marc Elias Article
I think Elias is too valuable to democrats. He was key to their stealing the election. He inundates states with lawsuits to change voting policies and eliminate election integrity. I would love for him to face justice, but I doubt it. He is an extreme threat to American freedom.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

We fixed the keg said:

I know I am probably begging here, but could Marc Elias be getting setup as the stooge. Reading this article makes me think the power brokers have agreed on the sacrificial lamb.

Marc Elias Article
I think Elias is too valuable to democrats. He was key to their stealing the election. He inundates states with lawsuits to change voting policies and eliminate election integrity. I would love for him to face justice, but I doubt it. He is an extreme threat to American freedom.
Key to stealing the election? Hardly

Elias is a showman, a mouthpiece, and not much of a lawyer.

That 2020 fiasco was WAY WAY above Elias' paygrade. That was four years in the making. Zuckerberg had gain his spot back in the inner circle once it got out that he was selling data to Trump via the Cambridge Analytica deal.
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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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Elias is not dumb. That's part of the problem, to me.
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I am definitely not as well researched as a number of you, but just on this page alone Elias has run the full spectrum from a charlatan to paid 'hitman.' Strangely enough, I think each description fits to some level.

I think to some degree, the paid 'hitman' fits because he is so closely tied to the DNC and the Democrat puppet masters. He is flush with cash, access and until recently, operated without recourse. While reprimands/censure actually mean something in the legal community and carry weight as to your professional reputation, they have still seemed to be little more than a slap on the wrist.

That said, I think he is becoming a charlatan because of hubris. Reading opinions from judges and other legal experts both with what is posted on this thread not just the frivolous part, but also progressives seemingly pissed because of the negative attention and negative outcomes. I am not a lawyer, but the comments around Brnovich v DNC resonate. Little chance to win but opened up to a decision that put them further behind than if they did nothing.

It is an interesting topic, and likely a distraction from the bigger picture. I would love to see him get taken down, but not if him going down is by design to protect the puppet masters. Was really just curious if anyone thought being separated from Perkins Coie and now the media pieces were pointing to his "planned scapegoating"
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Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/

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Not quite. FBI has some time to file additional info with the court. Does not mean Judicial Watch gets it all.
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Nice summary
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A newly discovered document uncovered by Just the News shows that Flynn could have had his reputation back a lot earlier, if Robert Mueller had released an affidavit confirming the story behind the retired general's 2015 Moscow dinner speech for Russia Today (RT) News.

At the event, Flynn sat next to Russian leader Vladimir Putin. The dinner became the key piece of "evidence" used by political detractors in the media and federal law enforcement as a pretext for their inquiry into Flynn.

The FBI's Flynn investigation was called Crossfire Razor and led to a wider probe, which the agency dubbed Crossfire Hurricane. It was prompted by the Clinton campaign's poisoning of the D.C. swamp, when it provided fake stories to the media, law enforcement, and the intelligence community, alleging Donald Trump was a secret agent for the Kremlin.
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In fact, Flynn was acting as a spy for the U.S. intelligence agency when he attended the dinner.
The document, sworn out by senior DIA official David Becker for Robert Mueller's investigators, shows the retired general's actions in a much different light.

It shows that Flynn sought out the DIA before he went to Moscow. That he told them the nature of the meeting. And that he was given a briefing by no fewer than ten DIA Russia experts on what information they were interested in receiving. Flynn also attended a defensive meeting in which he received "a complete briefing on the intelligence threat that would be potentially directed against him." And when he returned from the trip, he brought back a thumb drive of information he had retrieved, met with the DIA, and was debriefed.

Just the News reported that the trip was "blessed in advance by senior DIA officials, including Vincent Stewart, the Marine general who had succeeded Flynn as DIA chief. The former Trump administration national security adviser was even given tasking orders and a counterintelligence briefing before he departed for Moscow in December 2015."
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Now, Joe Biden's Pentagon is going after Flynn to pay back the $40,000 honorarium paid to him for the speech, claiming it violates the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

Sound familiar?

They claim he should have registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). There are almost no successful FARA prosecutions, according to former prosecutor Andy McCarthy. Usually, the feds allow the targeted person to true up their FARA registration, if it looks like they acted as a foreign agent.


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Aaannd, Mueller is still a POS.
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ETA: Also.....

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WTH? Joffe and his Georgia Tech people were spying on people in the IG's office?
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will25u said:

Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/


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In May 2020, Judicial Watch obtained a redacted version of the previously secret memo, authored by former FBI agent Peter Strzok. The Biden Justice Department argued that there is no significant public interest in disclosing the names of officials "cc-ed" on the memo.

Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
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Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
As you know, that's what they have been doing for everything. Chris Wray has completely obstructed all investigations.

We will never know the full truth. These folks do not work for the people at all.
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RiskManager93 said:

If Durham loses at trial, I can see Garland using it as a reason for shutting this whole thing down. The SC's office has a lot riding on the outcome of this case, IMO.
That's a depressing thought.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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VegasAg86 said:

will25u said:

Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/


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In May 2020, Judicial Watch obtained a redacted version of the previously secret memo, authored by former FBI agent Peter Strzok. The Biden Justice Department argued that there is no significant public interest in disclosing the names of officials "cc-ed" on the memo.

Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
FOIA doesn't work that way, and that is why they are going to lose that battle in court. The idea behind FOIA is that the people have the right to look over the shoulder of the people who are being paid by tax dollars to do work. The documents and information generated by federal agencies belongs to the public and they have the right to see it. I am not aware of any "no significant public interest" exemption that allows them to withhold information. The basis of FOIA is that if one person requests to see it, that is enough significant public interest to require them to provide the requested information. DOJ/FBI will lose this one IMO.
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txags92 said:

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will25u said:

Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/


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In May 2020, Judicial Watch obtained a redacted version of the previously secret memo, authored by former FBI agent Peter Strzok. The Biden Justice Department argued that there is no significant public interest in disclosing the names of officials "cc-ed" on the memo.

Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
FOIA doesn't work that way, and that is why they are going to lose that battle in court. The idea behind FOIA is that the people have the right to look over the shoulder of the people who are being paid by tax dollars to do work. The documents and information generated by federal agencies belongs to the public and they have the right to see it. I am not aware of any "no significant public interest" exemption that allows them to withhold information. The basis of FOIA is that if one person requests to see it, that is enough significant public interest to require them to provide the requested information. DOJ/FBI will lose this one IMO.
Don't know enough to argue...but doesn't a declaration of "National Security" over ride a 'full release' of some or all docs???
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But the "National Security" was "manufactured".
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VegasAg86 said:

will25u said:

Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/


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In May 2020, Judicial Watch obtained a redacted version of the previously secret memo, authored by former FBI agent Peter Strzok. The Biden Justice Department argued that there is no significant public interest in disclosing the names of officials "cc-ed" on the memo.

Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
Exactly, redactions have become a tool of these criminals.
Transparency in government is dead. Only serious national security issues should be redacted, not the cost of conference tables.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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whatthehey78 said:

txags92 said:

VegasAg86 said:

will25u said:

Looking for more corroboration...

ETA: https://www.judicialwatch.org/fbi-to-provide-details-on-officials-listed-in-memo/


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In May 2020, Judicial Watch obtained a redacted version of the previously secret memo, authored by former FBI agent Peter Strzok. The Biden Justice Department argued that there is no significant public interest in disclosing the names of officials "cc-ed" on the memo.

Is that the standard? I get redactions for sources and methods. This seems more like a "we don't want to make these people look bad" redaction.
FOIA doesn't work that way, and that is why they are going to lose that battle in court. The idea behind FOIA is that the people have the right to look over the shoulder of the people who are being paid by tax dollars to do work. The documents and information generated by federal agencies belongs to the public and they have the right to see it. I am not aware of any "no significant public interest" exemption that allows them to withhold information. The basis of FOIA is that if one person requests to see it, that is enough significant public interest to require them to provide the requested information. DOJ/FBI will lose this one IMO.
Don't know enough to argue...but doesn't a declaration of "National Security" over ride a 'full release' of some or all docs???
I would argue that it is of critical national security interest for the public to know exactly who was included in opening up an investigation whose goal was to impeach or cause the resignation of a duly elected leader of the country based on information that the FBI already knew was not true. The list of names the memo was sent to has no national security interest concern whatsoever.
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richardag said:

RiskManager93 said:

If Durham loses at trial, I can see Garland using it as a reason for shutting this whole thing down. The SC's office has a lot riding on the outcome of this case, IMO.
That's a depressing thought.
Indeed, but do you disagree? Because I could really use someone to talk me down from this ledge.

I believe a loss at trial provides Garland the cover he needs to stand before the media and say, "This has gone on long enough and Durham has nothing to show for his more than 2 years of investigatory efforts which have cost the U.S. taxpayers millions of dollars..."

All we will have to show for it is a plea deal deal by Kleinsmith for altering an email to get a FISA warrant against Page.

A D.C. jury is the ultimate trump card, and they intend to play it. If Durham has additional indictments under seal, he better tell us before Sussman is over.
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aggiehawg said:



WTH? Joffe and his Georgia Tech people were spying on people in the IG's office?
WTAF? This just keeps getting more bizarro world.
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In case people have forgotten. Durham has other things in the oven.



ETA: Since it won't show up for some people...

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New Durham filing in Danchenko case: Govt has produced 5k documents in classified discovery, 61k in unclassified (that seems like a lot). A significant amount of unclassified docs were previously classified. Interestingly they're delayed because...
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The officials involved in the declassification process are busy with "matters related to overseas activities".
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Tweet is private for me. What does it say?
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aggiehawg said:

Tweet is private for me. What does it say?


Me too. Says the tweets have been hidden
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valvemonkey91 said:

aggiehawg said:

Tweet is private for me. What does it say?


Me too. Says the tweets have been hidden


I added the tweets to my post.
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aggiehawg said:

Tweet is private for me. What does it say?
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"Prebuttal"!

I have never heard of, or used that word in my life.

I always laughed because "rebuttal" sounds like someone is getting an ass replacement.
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Nothing new. At least it is getting out there... a little.

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