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Biden has little to lose he's toast anyway, but he's only holding on to be able to pardon Hunter. Joe's a walking eggplant currently. The left is burning what little reputation Joe had to the ground because he's simply ballast on a sinking ship.

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I was at a dinner with a group of friends back in February. One of the couples brought both of these points into the discussion. Although all are right leaning and did not vote for Biden, most listened but politely dismissed the second point. We all agreed, and know, Joe's last act in government will likely be to pardon his son and brother. It appears to be playing out that Joe is nothing more than a "Strzok-Type" insurance policy on a MOAB scale with a built in senile defense.

sicandtiredTXN said:

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Sounds like Durham has slowly started to close in his net.

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He's flipped two key members directly involved, Laura Seago will be the Fusion GPS employee to testify, and David Dagon from Joffe's team. He's Got hundreds of emails completely torpedoing Marc Elias claim that Fusion GPS was retained to provide "legal advice." And it's a double edge sword because it also pushes back the the 38 emails they are holding onto for dear life aren't privileged and my bet is those emails show direct orders from HRC giving the order to takedown Trump via going after Carter Page using the dossier.

Durham makes clear, no lawyers are copied in these e-mails and this doesn't have anything to do with legal advice. And even if there were some type of privilege or work product, it was waived when Fusion GPS distributed the info to the press.


Here's the ace in the hole for all the pessimistic tribe. Merrick Garland Is AG and could step in, but the rub is everyone knows that the Red team is going to flip the House and the Senate and Garland would be certainly impeached if he were to step in, same goes for Biden. Garland's career would be over an any future hope he had for SCOTUS would be toast, could possibly end his license to practice as well. Biden has little to lose he's toast anyway, but he's only holding on to be able to pardon Hunter. Joe's a walking eggplant currently. The left is burning what little reputation Joe had to the ground because he's simply ballast on a sinking ship.

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Expect HRC to announce running for POTUS in '24 any day now. I'm only half kidding since it's straight from their playbook.

2/ It's almost as if Fusion GPS didn't need to hire an ex-MI6 guy to find all the Russian spooks, since they seemed to know who they were.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 26, 2022

This is absolutely wild. Page after page of corporate media stenographers actively colluding with Clinton campaign operatives to frame innocent Americans like Carter Page and Sergei Millian. WaPo, NYT, WSJ, ABC, Atlantic, Slate.

However much you hate the media, it's not enough. https://t.co/RG8jKMX3lS

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) April 26, 2022

So which of FusionGPS's "journalist" friends were actually PAID to push these smears? Perhaps these emails (filed by Durham by accident😆) provide some hints. After all of these years, the partisan press has still not asked or cared...https://t.co/xqjFOD6pAq https://t.co/7Af3vIhsZF pic.twitter.com/H7hjtDNY4V

— FoiaFan (@15poundstogo) April 26, 2022

I assume that if any REAL journalist were to investigate and report on which “reporters” were paid by FusionGPS, and name names, it would involve public figures only and would be done with the absence of malice.

— FoiaFan (@15poundstogo) April 26, 2022

So which of FusionGPS's "journalist" friends were actually PAID to push these smears? Perhaps these emails (filed by Durham by accident😆) provide some hints. After all of these years, the partisan press has still not asked or cared...https://t.co/xqjFOD6pAq https://t.co/7Af3vIhsZF pic.twitter.com/H7hjtDNY4V

— FoiaFan (@15poundstogo) April 26, 2022

"journalists" taking payments for "reporting" specific stories, sounds super ethical.

sicandtiredTXN said:

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Sounds like Durham has slowly started to close in his net.

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He's flipped two key members directly involved, Laura Seago will be the Fusion GPS employee to testify, and David Dagon from Joffe's team. He's Got hundreds of emails completely torpedoing Marc Elias claim that Fusion GPS was retained to provide "legal advice." And it's a double edge sword because it also pushes back the the 38 emails they are holding onto for dear life aren't privileged and my bet is those emails show direct orders from HRC giving the order to takedown Trump via going after Carter Page using the dossier.

Durham makes clear, no lawyers are copied in these e-mails and this doesn't have anything to do with legal advice. And even if there were some type of privilege or work product, it was waived when Fusion GPS distributed the info to the press.


Here's the ace in the hole for all the pessimistic tribe. Merrick Garland Is AG and could step in, but the rub is everyone knows that the Red team is going to flip the House and the Senate and Garland would be certainly impeached if he were to step in, same goes for Biden. Garland's career would be over an any future hope he had for SCOTUS would be toast, could possibly end his license to practice as well. Biden has little to lose he's toast anyway, but he's only holding on to be able to pardon Hunter. Joe's a walking eggplant currently. The left is burning what little reputation Joe had to the ground because he's simply ballast on a sinking ship.

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Good, but he isn't going to be nominated again, no matter what and he knows it. He's a little older now, and I doubt any CCP-Dem will ever nominate a straight white male to the SCOTUS again in my lifetime. The race now is to find a transgender person of color, or maybe a furry, ideally one that has also lived at some point in a communist or muslim country, like Obama himself.

2/ the lawyer or admin. didn't upload it under seal, so it was accessible. A couple people kept referring to it and I said, no, exhibit 1 said under seal. Then I pulled the second filing and saw, no it wasn't under seal. Late night filings like this are easy to screw up

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 26, 2022

4/4 you gotta ask what came first, Steel or the Sh!t he put in the dossier.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 26, 2022

It's very difficult for public figures harmed by this activity to make a successful case with slander and libel law.

May, 2016:

Here's @FranklinFoer going back and forth with Fusion GPS on Carter Page

Franklin published the Alfa Bank hoax before the election. pic.twitter.com/FaCJjpFXdr

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) April 26, 2022

Sussmann court granted motion to intervene. Just means Joffe, Hillary, DNC, Perkins Coie, Fusion can argue re attorney-client privilege. pic.twitter.com/sfkiO4rXp6

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 26, 2022

Worth keeping an eye out for a possible resurgence of two names:

1) Jake Berkowitz
2) Nellie Ohr

Nellie did the investigative open-source work for Fusion.

Berkowitz packaged it.

— Jeff Carlson (@themarketswork) April 26, 2022

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It's very difficult for public figures harmed by this activity to make a successful case with slander and libel law.

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Which needs to be corrected with updated slander and libel laws.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Corporations are allowed to hire or contract with political activists that call themselves reporters or serve both roles. Nothing makes you a reporter or journalist except the general convention that that is the activity you often do for a living or as a hobby. There's not some sort of certifying body or self policing governance group that endorses a title.

People who are engaged in political activism need yo be addressed as what they are actually doing versus what part time identity they are hiding behind.

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After reading all of this, I firmly believe that journalists need to be licensed to practice. There most certainly is a health, safety, and welfare aspect to the job they perform. And, don't give me the freedom of the press or any crap like that. They can still have their voices heard as un-licensed bloggers if they don't want to get licensed.

Without the potential to lose their ability to practice their so-called profession, they just run amok like the propaganda mercenaries we all know they are. Those emails disgust me, and I thought it wouldn't be possible to hate the press more than I already do but there it is.

I go the opposite way. We need to stop treating the employed press as if they are anything special or elite or noble. They're out to get ahead, make money, get famous, or virtue signal and feed their narcissism no different than anyone else who is attention seeking and sanctimonious and looking up get ahead. They simply need to be treated as what they are: nobody special, nobody with any special knowledge or expertise excepting those that demonstrate an ability to gather data and present it honestly and coherently.

The issue is always this: every consumer of information loves to have their confirmation biases indulged, and that gets attention and drives sales and value, so we always get people willing to spin, deceive, shock, and mislead with fear and feigned concern.

It's ultimately the responsibility of the consumer to know and understand this is always at play. Caveat Emptor.

MouthBQ98 said:

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I go the opposite way. We need to stop treating the employed press as if they are anything special or elite or noble. They're out to get ahead, make money, get famous, or virtue signal and feed their narcissism no different than anyone else who is attention seeking and sanctimonious and looking up get ahead. They simply need to be treated as what they are: nobody special, nobody with any special knowledge or expertise excepting those that demonstrate an ability to gather data and present it honestly and coherently.

The issue is always this: every consumer of information loves to have their confirmation biases indulged, and that gets attention and drives sales and value, so we always get people willing to spin, deceive, shock, and mislead with fear and feigned concern.

It's ultimately the responsibility of the consumer to know and understand this is always at play. Caveat Emptor.

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I couldn't disagree more, respectfully. I am a licensed professional. My work product is buildings. I am licensed to look out for the health, safety, and welfare of the public because the general public is believed to lack the expertise to properly understand the complexities that make for safe and valuable buildings. If we were to apply your point to building buildings, bad things would happen.

I contend that information is perhaps even more difficult for the general public to properly evaluate because the subject matter of news is going to be impossibly varied and widely dispersed. There is no way for any member of the public to be able to understand everything that goes into every issue that results in a piece of information put out in the media or internet. At some point, you are going to have to trust the source. In my my profession and, there is licensing that should help to ensure at least a certain amount of trust and accountability. Journalists have no such mechanism other than reputation which doesn't seem to count for much when irreputable people continue to get passed around like cheap *****s amongst the MSM party members.

Also to your point, even with licensed journalists you would still have the wide open wild west of the internet where you would still have what you describe with ultimate responsibility falling on the consumer.

But I don't want to clog up this thread any further since it serves a pretty specific purpose, so maybe this should get moved to another thread if anyone wants to continue.

👀 https://t.co/9OaiybbCmk

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) April 26, 2022

the history of america press shows its not a "now" thing. at the founding and through civil war, papers were much more one sided. the idea of "professional journalist" covering both sides is a 20th century thing.

The difference is if your work involves functions built around a fundamental individual civil right. The right to speech is above all the right to freely distribute information and opinion and does nothing to guarantee the quality or value of that information, just that government cannot impede it. A licensing trade association that acts as a proxy for government would be a serious danger to that free exchange of information if a single political group was able to co-opt or subvert that institution to its own purposes.

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👀 https://t.co/9OaiybbCmk

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) April 26, 2022

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Fitting name.



And people still think it's Russia…

To reiterate my hypothesis from last night, I have surmised that Russian Intelligence intercepted report 95 from the Steele➡️Fusion➡️Perkins➡️DNC/HFA pipeline and this is the basis for their assessment, however this pipeline is being covered by ACP, thus blocking Durham's access. https://t.co/4wLFY6CvrM

— FOOL NELSON (@FOOL_NELSON) April 26, 2022