Perjury traps are simple. And not a high degree of plea deals for simple charges.txags92 said:
Do you have ay thoughts that Durham already may have more of their communications than he is letting on, potentially from the Radcliffe/Patel data dump? If so, has he possibly set some perjury traps for these various firms to walk into in filing their motions in support of Sussman?
aggiehawg said:Perjury traps are simple. And not a high degree of plea deals for simple charges.txags92 said:
Do you have ay thoughts that Durham already may have more of their communications than he is letting on, potentially from the Radcliffe/Patel data dump? If so, has he possibly set some perjury traps for these various firms to walk into in filing their motions in support of Sussman?
Durham is playing a longer game, IMO.
To quote Willy Wonka, "I want it now!", but I'll take it when I can get it.sicandtiredTXN said:
I firmly believe the criminal conspiracy is the absolute goal, it's the only way most of this sticks because of the Statute of Limitations.
Think Kevin Bacon. And six degrees. Hillary is an "unindicted co-conspirator" and then the 14th can be used to stop her from trying to run again...joking but the Dems are going after MTG on that basis.SwigAg11 said:aggiehawg said:Perjury traps are simple. And not a high degree of plea deals for simple charges.txags92 said:
Do you have ay thoughts that Durham already may have more of their communications than he is letting on, potentially from the Radcliffe/Patel data dump? If so, has he possibly set some perjury traps for these various firms to walk into in filing their motions in support of Sussman?
Durham is playing a longer game, IMO.
What would the longer game be? Criminal conspiracy of the group including Clinton possibly?
Gowdy called Elias out over claiming that Fusion GPS was providing legal services. Elias conceded that Fusion GPS was not providing legal services. https://t.co/OmLifMiK1W pic.twitter.com/cdsaf2iZ96
— @LiveFree17017 (@livefree170171) April 19, 2022
That sleazy mother****er needs to be run out of the country.aggiehawg said:Oopsie!!!!will25u said:
Hopefully Durham knows everything Twitter folks have brought forward. If not, I hope they already know. Crowdfunded research on the internet is no joke, ESPECIALLY Since they don't have everything available to them that the government does.someome dug this up....
— Budgy (@Buuuuuudgeruck1) April 19, 2022
Elias has a problem.... pic.twitter.com/c9XeOHZcde
ETA: Elias may keep his license but his clients should be at the abandon ship stage now.
Perhaps it's not too late for Russia to file an opposition memo in the Sussmann case too. After all they were apparently cc'd on the criminal schemes too and might want to invoke privilege.
— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) April 19, 2022
— UndeadFOIA (@UndeadFoia) April 20, 2022
Everything would have been under seal and behind closed doors.
— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) April 20, 2022
That's the way Mueller's partisans acted. Durham is happy to have it all out in the open.
Hmmm. https://t.co/uQCWLfW1Tu
Couldn't resistEllis Wyatt said:
It's almost like fish jumping into the boat. We knew them to be guilty, but many did not. Their actions remove all doubt.
Durham projected serveral of these arguments he knew would be comingwill25u said:— UndeadFOIA (@UndeadFoia) April 20, 2022Everything would have been under seal and behind closed doors.
— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) April 20, 2022
That's the way Mueller's partisans acted. Durham is happy to have it all out in the open.
Hmmm. https://t.co/uQCWLfW1Tu
The NSA has a copy of everything that ever passes across the internet. If it touches fiber they have it. The NSA scoops up everything. The NSA falls under the umbrella of the ODNI, where Ratcliffe and Patel were at when Durham started this case. The entire farce about Hillary deleted her emails means nothing, had they really wanted them, they didn't need her server, the NSA had them all already. They were NEVER going to prosecute Hillary. Once an email, or text or phone call is made, there is no deleting it from the NSA, it's archived and in storage. Same with the farce was playing with the public about not being able to access the San Bernardino terrorist's iPhones. They knew the number all they had to do was pull the send and receive traffic from that number. But it's easier to hide their inaction and slow rolling the investigation by claiming Apple would help them access the phone.Baron von Bulsh said:
I'm not a lawyer, nor a computer wizard so forgive my question if it's a dumb one.
Where are these emails and how might Durham have had access to them?
I only ask because we know Hillary and her team have no qualms destroying evidence. Why wouldn't they just destroy these emails too?
Hillary has a long, sordid history of hiding behind 'lost' or secret/destroyed billing records. Remember when a box of Rose law firm billing records were miraculously found at the White House, over 10 years later?aggiehawg said:This. It is very hard to untangle until you get the billing records which are not subject to privilege. The billing records provide not only a timeline but also a road map.will25u said:By virtue of this clever laundering machine, the goal was to permit everyone- the campaign, Joffe, Fusion, Steele, Elias, Sussmann and the rest of PC- to hide behind privilege and attorney work product protection when making statements based on false, fabricated stories.
— Kingmaker - Big IF! (True) (@KingMakerFT) April 19, 2022
The Yotaphone hoax is a much larger scandal than people realize! @FDRLST https://t.co/JblRKkaUsX
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 20, 2022
Yikes!Quote:
The memoranda expose two additional troubling details. While the earlier court filings created the appearance that the DNS data had merely been pulled from locations connected to Trump, the memoranda speak of the phones connected to "Wi-Fi used at Trump's apartment." It thus appears that the DNS data directly targeted the Wi-Fi networks specifically used by Trump.
2) Reid sent a letter on Aug. 27, 2016, to Comey claiming that “the evidence of a direct connection between the Russian government and Donald Trump’s campaign continues to mount.”
— Jeff Carlson (@themarketswork) April 20, 2022
Reid called for a public investigation asking that investigation be completed before the election.
Made look up the case, United States v. Ackert, 169 F.3d 136, 139 (2d Cir. 1999)). A ruling about communications with third parties not privileged. Thanks, I am beginning to make more sense in what the panic is about.sicandtiredTXN said:. . .will25u said:
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He knew these lame claims of privilege were coming and saved it to come out on public record. He was ready with United States v. Ackert, 169 F.3d 136, 139 (2d Cir. 1999))
He practically laid out the breadcrumbs for them to follow him down this dead end alley and force them to go at each other to try and survive his wrath, and he hasn't even played his trump card yet.
Durham has let them hang themselves with their own words and action. He has all the unredacted documents, Ratcliffe and Patel gave him the roadmap and he's dug out the criminals and has them now in a panic. Durham has played the long game like a real pro, and it's just getting started.
That is always a tricky part, who is the true client in a multiparty situation? If you were/are a fan of Billions you would see scenes when someone new would walk into Axe's office for a confab, his lawyer, Orrin Bach, would have them sign a representation agreement making him their lawyer. Thus the third party privilege issue was taken out of play.Quote:
Made look up the case, United States v. Ackert, 169 F.3d 136, 139 (2d Cir. 1999)). A ruling about communications with third parties not privileged. Thanks, I am beginning to make more sense in what the panic is about.
I did not know the NSA had recordings of all phone conversations, I understood they had the times and tel pbone #s were on the call not the conversation. Also, regarding email and text, if end to end encrypted it may be difficult to break the encryption, seems I remember the U.S. enlisted the aid of an Israelis company to break Apple's iPhone encryption(could be a faulty memory here).sicandtiredTXN said:The NSA has a copy of everything that ever passes across the internet. If it touches fiber they have it. The NSA scoops up everything. The NSA falls under the umbrella of the ODNI, where Ratcliffe and Patel were at when Durham started this case. The entire farce about Hillary deleted her emails means nothing, had they really wanted them, they didn't need her server, the NSA had them all already. They were NEVER going to prosecute Hillary. Once an email, or text or phone call is made, there is no deleting it from the NSA, it's archived and in storage. Same with the farce was playing with the public about not being able to access the San Bernardino terrorist's iPhones. They knew the number all they had to do was pull the send and receive traffic from that number. But it's easier to hide their inaction and slow rolling the investigation by claiming Apple would help them access the phone.Baron von Bulsh said:
I'm not a lawyer, nor a computer wizard so forgive my question if it's a dumb one.
Where are these emails and how might Durham have had access to them?
I only ask because we know Hillary and her team have no qualms destroying evidence. Why wouldn't they just destroy these emails too?
will25u said:The Yotaphone hoax is a much larger scandal than people realize! @FDRLST https://t.co/JblRKkaUsX
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 20, 2022
THREAD: Sussmann hearing starting now. Toll Free Number: 888-204-5984
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 20, 2022
Access Code: 8981531 Will live tweet to extent possible.
will25u said:
About 200 listening.
But don't you know JOHNNY DEPP IS ON TRIAL? Duh.Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:will25u said:
About 200 listening.
Biggest political scandal in U.S. history.
27/28 My take-away: Some shaving around the edges to limit what Durham can present, but leaving most issues for trial to decide.
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) April 20, 2022
