#Durham: "Sussmann instructed this same tech company to get a 'sensitive arrangement' to gain access into the White House. So what that tells me is that this was not a hack…They were on the books with the intelligence community."

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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Some people got some explaining to do! What will Elias say about that meeting? That's the million dollar question. Undoubtedly he will say they were planning opposition research, which is not illegal. But what about the part that a frame-up hoax would be presented to the FBI and Dept of State? That's a crime. And it's what happened- largely because a federal investigation into the made up oppo research added gravitas to the narrative. It's possible Elias will likely testify that he didn't know it was made up, and/or he didn't realize false evidence would be presented to the FBI. But his ability to put all the major players in the same room at the same time is critical for establishing a conspiracy. Curious as heck to know what other cards Durham is holding onto.

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benchmark said:

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sicandtiredTXN said:

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Some people got some explaining to do! What will Elias say about that meeting? That's the million dollar question. Undoubtedly he will say they were planning opposition research, which is not illegal. But what about the part that a frame-up hoax would be presented to the FBI and Dept of State? That's a crime. And it's what happened- largely because a federal investigation into the made up oppo research added gravitas to the narrative. It's possible Elias will likely testify that he didn't know it was made up, and/or he didn't realize false evidence would be presented to the FBI. But his ability to put all the major players in the same room at the same time is critical for establishing a conspiracy. Curious as heck to know what other cards Durham is holding onto.

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To prove fraud, Durham has to show they absolutely knew their evidence was false. Plausible deniability defense otherwise. Lots of firewalls between Danchenko > Steele > FusionGPS > Perkins Coie > HRC campaign > HRC.

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Hint: It didn't come from Danchenko or any of Steele's source network. Rather, Steele learned of it at the July 29, 2016, meeting at Perkins Coie, attended by Sussmann, Elias, Steele, Simpson, Fritsch (from Fusion GPS), and perhaps Joffe.

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aggiehawg said:

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Hint: It didn't come from Danchenko or any of Steele's source network. Rather, Steele learned of it at the July 29, 2016, meeting at Perkins Coie, attended by Sussmann, Elias, Steele, Simpson, Fritsch (from Fusion GPS), and perhaps Joffe.

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RiskManager93 said:

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How does a South African-born computer expert (Joffre) with a history of mail fraud and six-figures worth of back property taxes owed pass an FBI background check and get a contract to provide any sort of services whatsoever to the White House?

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aggiehawg said:

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There shouldn't be is no a government contract to spy inside Trump Tower.

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RiskManager93 said:

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How does a South African-born computer expert (Joffre) with a history of mail fraud and six-figures worth of back property taxes owed pass an FBI background check and get a contract to provide any sort of services whatsoever to the White House?

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During the campaign, a few reporters did ask how the possible connection to the campaign, but Clinton campaign officials denied any involvement. It was only weeks after the election that journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign allegedly hid payments for the Steele dossier as "legal fees" among the $5.6 million paid to Perkins Coie. New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Elias denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias "pushed back vigorously, saying 'You (or your sources) are wrong.'" Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, "Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year." Elias also reportedly sat next to campaign chair John Podesta when he also reportedly denied the connection.

Sussmann was indicted for allegedly hiding his representation of the Clinton Campaign as he spread a different Russian collusion allegation involving the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank. (Elias is also referenced in meetings on that operation). Sussmann filed a response this week and asked the Court to strike the entirety of the factual section of the Durham filing as unsubstantiated and sensational. (That could open the door for Durham in response to substantiate these claims even further).

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What is striking about the Durham filings is the audacity of the Perkins Coie operation. While the funding was buried away, the lawyers were seemingly unconcerned about approving such efforts or personally reaching out to sympathetic government and media figures. They were, to some degree, justified in their sense of immunity.

Indeed, to this day, many refuse to cover extensive evidence of how the Clinton campaign manufactured this story that largely occupied the entire term of President Donald Trump. Before the Steele dossier was given to the FBI and the press, then-CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Clinton's alleged "plan" to tie candidate Trump to Russia as "a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server." That operation appears to have been launched through Elias and Perkins Coie.

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Durham's continued investigation may be pushing the media to the final stage called "postsyncope," which involves "protracted confusion, disorientation, nausea, dizziness, and a general sense of poor health." That has reflected in the flailing effort by some to deflect from the alarming disclosures. New York Times reporter Mike McIntire seemed to express alarm that the Durham story was "trending." However, McIntire offered "a periodic reminder that Trump's campaign chairman secretly met and shared info with a Russian intelligence agent." The "info" was polling data on the campaign that Paul Manafort gave a person with Russian intelligence ties.

That, of course, has no relevance to the question of whether the Clinton Campaign spied on the Trump Tower, campaign, or the White House itself. The "periodic reminder" seemed to be to other media that they needed to continue to hold their breath and not recognize a major story. Such "protracted confusion" is natural, but it will not dissipate any time soon. Durham apparently is calling more people into the grand jury.

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Jabin said:

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Turley's not a lib at all, I don't think.

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fasthorse05 said:

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These days, I'm fairly certain I'd be kicked out of the cocktail circuit, VERY quickly.

And that's coming from someone who has a modicum of diplomacy.

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fasthorse05 said:

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Damn, Hawg, I had to look that one up, then I really laughed.

I loved her book name, "ON WITH THE WIND".

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aggiehawg said:

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fasthorse05 said:

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Damn, Hawg, I had to look that one up, then I really laughed.

I loved her book name, "ON WITH THE WIND".

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Forget Woodward and Bernstein. It was John Mitchell's wife that spilled the beans about CREEP and dirty tricks.

She was a raging alcoholic. Put a few highballs in her and it was like pulling the string on the back of a Chatty Cathy doll.



And yes, I had one when I was little girl.

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Anybody still wondering why Sussmann chose Baker to contact, it's pretty simple. He chose Baker because of the relationship Baker had with Perkins Coie. Recall Baker's testimony to congress. The day Comey reopened the Clinton case, Baker received a late night call from Elias demanding a conference with FBI brass. (How does that happen?) Baker had Strzok facilitate that conference call. During testimony Strzok was asked about the call. He facilitated but didn't attend. When asked about a transcript Strzok said to his knowledge there wasn't one, no notes were taken. Not even by the notorious copious note taker Comey, yeah bullsheet of the highest order.

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aggiehawg said:

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I was a big fan of the series Homeland and they are running a marathon of it on weekend. It's on Season 6 right now when the CIA and FBI and rogue elements of DOD all go off of the rails and try to get the newly elected President, Elizabeth Keane out of office.

That season was in 2017. Funny how fiction and fact sometimes dovetail, ain't it?

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Lioness is based on a real-life CIA program and the series will follow a Marine who is recruited to befriend the daughter of a terrorist in order to bring the organization down from within. Saldaña has been cast as Joe, a "strong-willed, hard-nosed, station chief of the CIA's Lioness program."

Joe is tasked with training, managing, and leading her fellow female undercover operatives working to assassinate the world's most dangerous terrorists.

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Jabin said:

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He also supported impeachment of both Clinton and Obama.

Turley is one of those guys that you can't simply as conservative or liberal. He thinks for himself and arrives at conclusions that are sometimes acceptable to conservatives and sometimes anathema to conservatives.

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Jabin said:

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He also supported impeachment of both Clinton and Obama.

Turley is one of those guys that you can't simply as conservative or liberal. He thinks for himself and arrives at conclusions that are sometimes acceptable to conservatives and sometimes anathema to conservatives.

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