Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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VaultingChemist said:

Anyone know if drcrinum is still around? He was very active on this thread, but hasn't posted anything in over a year.


MF Barns sock, but Hawg will correct me...
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Wonder who's the publisher for his book and what are the ties to the DNC/Clintonistas?
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Wonder who's the publisher for his book and what are the ties to the DNC/Clintonistas?
When it comes to books by Democrats or anti-Trump hacks, it is almost always Simon & Schuster.
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Yes, it is Dawson, but he is just going over what is in the article. Nothing outlandish.

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will25u said:

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Yes, it is Dawson, but he is just going over what is in the article. Nothing outlandish.


BUZZFEED the original publishers of the Steele Dossier, oh yes what a source.

Talking about this "alternative" Mueller report, that was produced by Andrew Weissmann and is being pawned off as something legit, when it's nothing more than a follow up hit piece that only came to fruition when the left began fearing Trump running again in 2024 and they have to stop him at all costs, like they tried to do in 2016.

F*** Dawson and his defense of Mueller and Comey and all his BS propaganda he's been spewing for five years. Dawson and that broad Empty Wheel all pawns of Louise Mensch who have beat that drum to death since 2015. Somehow they manage to get people to carry their water and empower their trend.
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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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So, a Clinton/DNC paid subcontractor was mining internet traffic from POTUS' home, private office, executive office, and his personal Doctor for the purpose of obtaining derogatory information? Sounds like sort of a big deal.
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Techno Fog Link: Durham: Clinton allies spied on the Executive Office of the President
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Joffe and his associates manipulated this information to further a conspiracy theory that Trump and those in Trump's orbit were continuing their secret backchannels with the Russians. This was repackaged with the Alfa Bank hoax and given to Sussmann, who then laundered it to the CIA on February 9, 2017. Sussmann alleged to the CIA that the data showed "that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations." Durham "identified no support for these allegations."

One can't help ask why Joffe (via Sussmann) risked legal exposure to continue to push false Trump-Russia allegations before and after the 2016 election. First to the FBI in 2016 then to the CIA in 2017. It seems that Joffe was desperate, and his desperation only increased after Trump's election.

The source of Joffe's desperation? It's speculation at this point, but perhaps it goes to the origins of the purported Russia/DNC hack. To revise a previous question we have asked:
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What if Crowdstrike was a patsy, there to unknowingly reach false conclusions of a "Russian hack" based on fraudulent information provided to them by Rodney Joffe and Perkins Coie and the DNC/Hillary Campaign?
We don't have an answer to that question - yet. Maybe we never will. But if anything, it seems likely that we will see an indictment of Rodney Joffe.
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benchmark said:

So, a Clinton/DNC paid subcontractor was mining internet traffic from POTUS' home, private office, executive office, and his personal Doctor for the purpose of obtaining derogatory information? Sounds like sort of a big deal.
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benchmark said:

So, a Clinton/DNC paid subcontractor was mining internet traffic from POTUS' home, private office, executive office, and his personal Doctor for the purpose of obtaining derogatory information? Sounds like sort of a big deal.


Yet they still couldn't get him on anything. I don't think many politicians could withstand such scrutiny.
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I'd never lost faith in Sidney, but had a lot of questions. I wonder who she'd talked to and what she knows. DARPA and the AF OSI? Don't know if they're really involved, but if so, *****

Who in the hell is really calling the shots, and who frickin' came up with the plan? I suspect it metasticized, but there seems to be endless tentacles!
This would be one of the biggest "conspiracy theories" to be true (if true). At the time, I thought this was a dubious claim that was a 'bridge to far' because of how broad the conspiracy would have had to reach.

Interesting bit of information for sure.
On a general note, the bold is completely invalid in the 21st C. It was a slogan and meme from a different era of communication potentialities.

Now, nothing is EASIER than coordinating a large conspiracy largely unseen if you want to. Think of the Sunrise movement organizing the Floyd protests and the media not covering this. Think of zoom sessions or even just chat correspondence. None of that is that hard to do right now, provided you have ideologues conducting them. As always true about a conspiracy, you need to not have a mole that gives it away, but that is all. That is easier to accomplish in rabidly ideological groups and secret services. Especially in the present polarized and even blind obedience and mass group-think being common climate. (cancel culture)

Remark: This is not commenting on the whole Sidney thing evidence or not. Merely that the "conspiracy would be too larger" is no longer even remotely an argument against it or any other proposition.
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titan said:

We fixed the keg said:

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I'd never lost faith in Sidney, but had a lot of questions. I wonder who she'd talked to and what she knows. DARPA and the AF OSI? Don't know if they're really involved, but if so, *****

Who in the hell is really calling the shots, and who frickin' came up with the plan? I suspect it metasticized, but there seems to be endless tentacles!
This would be one of the biggest "conspiracy theories" to be true (if true). At the time, I thought this was a dubious claim that was a 'bridge to far' because of how broad the conspiracy would have had to reach.

Interesting bit of information for sure.
On a general note, the bold is completely invalid in the 21st C. It was a slogan and meme from a different era of communication potentialities.

Now, nothing is EASIER than coordinating a large conspiracy largely unseen if you want to. Think of the Sunrise movement organizing the Floyd protests and the media not covering this. Think of zoom sessions or even just chat correspondence. None of that is that hard to do right now, provided you have ideologues conducting them. As always true about a conspiracy, you need to not have a mole that gives it away, but that is all. That is easier to accomplish in rabidly ideological groups and secret services. Especially in the present polarized and even blind obedience and mass group-think being common climate. (cancel culture)

Remark: This is not commenting on the whole Sidney thing evidence or not. Merely that the "conspiracy would be too larger" is no longer even remotely an argument against it or any other proposition.
Intriguing point, Titan.
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This Danchenko f-stick helped cause a lot of people their jobs, reputation and money.

I hope this mfer goes to jail for a long time, i hope he is the first of many. You all know the names, but Strzok, McCabe and Weissman head my list. Evil f's - all of them.

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will25u said:


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CyclingAg82 said:

This Danchenko f-stick helped cause a lot of people their jobs, reputation and money.

I hope this mfer goes to jail for a long time, i hope he is the first of many. You all know the names, but Strzok, McCabe and Weissman head my list. Evil f's - all of them.




Danchenko was just a tool. They'd have found another way to advance their narrative without him.
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will25u said:



Yes. The tenure of the anti-Trump off-stage four year coup plot of 2017-2020 marked when D.C. became the most malignant major government on earth after Beijing.
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All we heard from the left and the Lame Stream Media, every day was everything Trump was bigger than Watergate, everything he did was held up as the biggest scandal in American History.

Well it's now verified that they were all projecting what they were doing and it is bigger than Watergate. This wasn't four burglars ruffling through filing cabinets at the DNC office at the Watergate Hotel in Foggy Bottom DC, or Dick Nixon erasing 12 minutes of tape, this was full blown cyber attacks on the Trump Servers during the campaign, tapping all the phone lines in Trump tower, NSA monitoring all telephonic and electronic traffic on the Republican Candidate for POTUS, the POTUS elect, and even electronically spied on the sitting POTUS, his Executive Office, The Eisenhower Executive Building, and even his private residences in Bedminster and Mar a Lago while he was the sitting POTUS.

All this nonsense about the Clinton Campaign paying for the Steele Dossier, is nothing but a distraction to all they were really doing. Oppo Research is done in every election, the fact that they used foreign actors crossed some lines, but is nothing compared to what Durham is bringing to light.

Hillary was supposed to win and none of this would have ever seen the light of day.

Where are the calls to Georgia Tech and all they were involved in.????

Now you have leakers all over the White House claiming Russia is going to invade Ukraine any minute, and I will bet a grand against a wooden nickel it's nothing but a wag the dog moment to distract from all this currently rolling out of the Durham investigation. I would not be surprised to know Biden's handlers are calling in the marker for lifting the Trump sanctions against Russia, and Putin is returning the favor by causing all these distractions. Every time Trump talked to Putin the MSM was screaming for a transcript. And Trump released his Phone Call transcripts. Biden's calls have all been secretive no transcripts are being demanded and they damn sure aren't volunteering any.

This Russia fake crisis is a smokescreen to cover all the scandals coming to light.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

All we heard from the left and the Lame Stream State Media, every day was everything Trump was bigger than Watergate, everything he did was held up as the biggest scandal in American History.

FIFY.

It has been obvious for years. They are Pravda US.
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It goes without saying that if any sliver of this is true (and it appears most of it is) that makes this the biggest non-war, non-assassination story in the history of our nation. I wish we had competent and free thinking mainstream media that would cover it all.
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Maroon Elephant said:

It goes without saying that if any sliver of this is true (and it appears most of it is) that makes this the biggest non-war, non-assassination story in the history of our nation. I wish we had competent and free thinking mainstream media that would cover it all.
It is bigger than any war in our history. Losing the revolution? America remains better off than where we are headed now. Losing 1812, same. Losing the civil war? Same, slavery was dying anyway. Losing ww1? We'd actually have been better off. Losing ww2? Well, we gave our country to our own nazis. No difference, except that we allowed it to happen without firing a shot.

This is the biggest story maybe in human history, because it probably marks the end of the enlightenment, end of western civilization, end of freedom and the american experiment. We are going back to dogma, hypocrisy, intolerance, rule of man over rule of law, totalitariansm, and this time there is no religion or other institutions left even paying lip service to truth or ethics.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

This Russia fake crisis is a smokescreen to cover all the scandals coming to light.
The Ukraine crisis is the real deal IMO. However, the fact that we even ask ourselves this question speaks to the elephant in the room - we can't trust our government.

Short of a war, Durham's bombshell filing will make this week's news cycle very interesting. Unquestionably, this is Watergate on steroids. Perkins Coie's attorney-client firewall has been crushed. Sussmann and Elias are suspects in the criminal conspiracy. And it won't stop at Perkins Coie.

The hoax was either conceived or approved by the Clinton campaign and spying continued after the election. Jake Sullivan (Biden's national security advisor) is likely a criminal co-conspirator. Crosshairs are on HRC but it's probably a bridge too far unless someone flips. Also, Friday's bombshell makes it infinitely harder for Garland and Monaco to pull the plug on Durham. The game is afoot.
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I am sure Durham released this bombshell to prevent Garland from shutting down the investigation.
Hillary spied on Trump with assist of Obama's team (including Biden). After Hillary lost, the coverup began, and continues to this day. I am almost certain that the election fraud occurred as part of this coverup, and the Jan. 6 "insurrection" was used to stifle the investigation into election fraud. Unbelievable.

Edit for Hillary quote: "If that f__king ******* (Donald Trump) wins, we all hang from nooses."
Yes, Hillary, we now understand why you said that.
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VaultingChemist said:



I am sure Durham released this bombshell to prevent Garland from shutting down the investigation.
Hillary spied on Trump with assist of Obama's team (including Biden). After Hillary lost, the coverup began, and continues to this day. I am almost certain that the election fraud occurred as part of this coverup, and the Jan. 6 "insurrection" was used to stifle the investigation into election fraud. Unbelievable.

Edit for Hillary quote: "If that f__king ******* (Donald Trump) wins, we all hang from nooses."
Yes, Hillary, we now understand why you said that.
^100% concur! There had better be some REAL consequences (serious fines/loss of licenses/financial ruin, etc.) come from this...and not just public condemnation and short term, embarrassment.

ETA - Sadly, I don't expect jail time for the chief perpetrators and brain trust behind all this!
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I really don't think y'all understand how much of this the general public knows about.

Somewhere in the last few days I saw a tweet from a lefty saying how Trump hasn't been prosecuted yet, and how he is having anxiety and needing meds because nothing is happening to Trump.

Then you have Margo Cleveland, who is pretty into Mueller/Durham and this is what she says about her husband.



So my guess is most people have little to no knowledge about who or what Durham is doing.

And all of this thanks to the liberal MSM and not reporting a single thing.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

All we heard from the left and the Lame Stream Media, every day was everything Trump was bigger than Watergate, everything he did was held up as the biggest scandal in American History.

Well it's now verified that they were all projecting what they were doing and it is bigger than Watergate. This wasn't four burglars ruffling through filing cabinets at the DNC office at the Watergate Hotel in Foggy Bottom DC, or Dick Nixon erasing 12 minutes of tape, this was full blown cyber attacks on the Trump Servers during the campaign, tapping all the phone lines in Trump tower, NSA monitoring all telephonic and electronic traffic on the Republican Candidate for POTUS, the POTUS elect, and even electronically spied on the sitting POTUS, his Executive Office, The Eisenhower Executive Building, and even his private residences in Bedminster and Mar a Lago while he was the sitting POTUS.

All this nonsense about the Clinton Campaign paying for the Steele Dossier, is nothing but a distraction to all they were really doing. Oppo Research is done in every election, the fact that they used foreign actors crossed some lines, but is nothing compared to what Durham is bringing to light.

Hillary was supposed to win and none of this would have ever seen the light of day.

Where are the calls to Georgia Tech and all they were involved in.????

Now you have leakers all over the White House claiming Russia is going to invade Ukraine any minute, and I will bet a grand against a wooden nickel it's nothing but a wag the dog moment to distract from all this currently rolling out of the Durham investigation. I would not be surprised to know Biden's handlers are calling in the marker for lifting the Trump sanctions against Russia, and Putin is returning the favor by causing all these distractions. Every time Trump talked to Putin the MSM was screaming for a transcript. And Trump released his Phone Call transcripts. Biden's calls have all been secretive no transcripts are being demanded and they damn sure aren't volunteering any.

This Russia fake crisis is a smokescreen to cover all the scandals coming to light.

The number of people and government agencies cooperating in this conspiracy is staggering. What is perhaps most infuriating is that it took many years for all these pieces to be put into place and there is no way that it went unnoticed by Republicans in Washington. They are either incompetent or complicit.
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