Two things jump out.

1. Otoh Fusion are hiding behind privilege ("at the direction of Perkins Coie"). Otoh that puts Sussmann at the center of the conspiracy. Catch 22.

2. Fusion didn't disclose Joffe-Fusion emails in the privilege log. That means they shouldn't be privileged. https://t.co/js4MUcB23M

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) December 4, 2021

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This piece by @LeeSmithDC is so far the definitive account about the end of so-called #journalism in America and the corruption of federal law enforcement

— Ron Coleman (@RonColeman) December 2, 2021

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So obvious NOW, the deadly sin to leveraged the attack plan on President Trump was and is Greed.

Staring...right in the face all along and cannot remember thread posts here about the OBVIOUS CORRUPT JOURNALISTS. Reporters were bought. Say 10,000, $100,000, does not matter, integrity was sold. - America with Pulitzer winners' with the debased morality of swine

Truth is free.

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will25u said:

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This piece by @LeeSmithDC is so far the definitive account about the end of so-called #journalism in America and the corruption of federal law enforcement

— Ron Coleman (@RonColeman) December 2, 2021

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So obvious NOW, the deadly sin to leveraged the attack plan on President Trump was and is Greed.

Staring...right in the face all along and cannot remember thread posts here about the OBVIOUS CORRUPT JOURNALISTS. Reporters were bought. Say 10,000, $100,000, does not matter, integrity was sold. - America with Pulitzer winners' with the debased morality of swine

Truth is free.

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https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/limited-hangout-lee-smith

I was about to post this article. Thanks for bringing to the thread.

The quote from Bret Stephens - noted never Trumper stands out as a telling sign that some of the scum in the media is admitting this operation was trash and built on lies.

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The New York Times' Bret Stephens came down hard on the FBI in a recent column cataloging what the Clinton-funded smear campaign cost the country: "years of high-level federal investigations, ponderous congressional hearings, pompous Adam Schiff soliloquies, and nonstop public furor," writes Stephens. "But none of that would likely have happened if the F.B.I. had treated the dossier as the garbage that it was." That's a 180-degree turnaround from where Stephens was three years ago when he wrote in praise of the FBI's Russia investigation and castigated the congressional investigators who first unearthed the evidence now corroborated by Durham's investigation. When Tablet emailed Stephens for a comment on his change of heart, he replied: "When I get things wrong, as I sometimes do, I own- and own up to - it."

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I hope Durham continues to root out and indict the scumbags responsible for this travesty.

I hope Emmet Sullivan pays some kind of professional price for what he did to Michael Flynn.

Fusion GPS caught red handed hiding emails & documents from Alfa Bank's lawsuit.
But Durham found them & now FGPS is trying to claim 33 documents are attorney client privileged...

Documents include the plan for how to create the false impression to of Russian Collusion! https://t.co/TnfiQOwPos

— DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) December 4, 2021

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Joffe was knee deep in this going back to Sussman in 2016 and the origin of the 'pee tape' lies ostensibly dug up by fellow ham radio hobbyist Nellie Ohr; claiming they (Fusion GPS atty's) didn't know he was involved/no idea is just…another bold face lie.

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The origin of the Michael Cohen in Prague is even more convoluted. However, that story connects to the recently highlighted connection between Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann and Rodney Joffe. While working for Perkins Coie, Sussmann also represented Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert referred to in Durham's indictment as "Tech Executive-1." In 2016, Joffe, who has not been previously identified, worked with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Sussmann took to the FBI. {Go Deep} You'll see where Joffe surfaces toward the end.

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In October of 2018 Mrs. Nellie Ohr was questioned by a House committee about her involvement with Fusion-GPS while working as a paid contract agent for the firm. Additionally, she was questioned on: her relationship with the dossier origination; her contacts with Christopher Steele; her role and responsibility within Fusion as it related to the Trump project; and the nature of the communication between herself and the participating players inside and outside of government.

Mrs Ohr invoked spousal privilege to protect any communication between herself and her husband.
We now know that in 2016 a cybersecurity expert named Rodney Joffe was under contract with Perkins Coie and collaborating with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Clinton Lawyer Michael Sussmann took to the FBI.

So we know the FBI was getting research information from Nellie Ohr via Chris Steele, and from Rodney Joffe via Michael Sussmann.

What do Nellie and Rodney have in common? They are both HAM Radio operators. What a coincidence.

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There is every indication the Michael Cohen visiting Prague story originated from Nellie's research and was passed along to Chris Steele becoming a point in his dossier. An unfortunately named art dealer from New York was likely mistaken for President Trump's lawyer.

Former Senate Intelligence Committee lead staffer Dan Jones was working with Glenn Simpson at Fusion-GPS. Fusion-GPS contracted with Nellie Ohr in "late 2015". This is the exact same time when thousands of unauthorized "contractor searches" were taking place within the NSA/FBI database. This is where the Ham radio comes in handy to receive, share and discuss information from database extraction.

Nellie Ohr then sends research outcomes to Chris Steele for the dossier assembly; and the dossier is then laundered back to Bruce Ohr and FBI for use in their operation against the Trump campaign. Meanwhile, Simpson and Jones are leaking to the media who are writing articles. Nellie then captures those articles to validate material in the dossier; puts the citations on a thumb-drive and gives it to Bruce. Again, it's the same damn origin.

Chris Steele is not defending his lies, he is defending the mistaken research of Nellie Ohr.

For obvious reasons, Chris Steele cannot reveal where he got both points of erroneous information without exposing himself to the legal ramifications that accompany a group of political operatives successfully weaponizing the FBI against a U.S. presidential candidate. This is not conspiracy theory, this is a factual conspiracy.

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Of course, it's all just a coincidence she/Joffe developed a mid-life sharp interest in shortwave radio transmissions, and oh by the way is a Stalin apologist;

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That brings us to Nellie Ohr, holder of amateur radio call sign KM4UDZ. Ohr graduated from Harvard University in 1983 with a degree in history and Russian literature. She studied in the Soviet Union in 1989 and obtained a PhD in Russian history in 1990.

For those of you who may be tempted to read her 400-plus page PhD thesis, here's a spoiler alert: in murdering untold millions, Joseph Stalin may have engaged in some "excesses" which, in her words, "sometimes represented desperate measures taken by a government that had little real control over the country." Translated into simple English, she meant, "Hey, cut the guy some slack. Creating a proletarian paradise can be tough and anybody can get carried away."

She is said to be fluent in the Russian language and an expert on cybersecurity. Her husband is Bruce Ohr, the former number four official in President Obama's Justice Department.

According to a sworn court filing by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, she was hired by that firm to conduct opposition research on behalf of the Clinton campaign against candidate Donald Trump. In his statement, Simpson acknowledged bank records reflect that Fusion GPS contracted with her "to help our company with its research and analysis of Mr. Trump."

At the same time, Fusion GPS retained the services of former British spy and FBI informant Christopher Steele to obtain derogatory information from his Russian sources about Trump. The final Fusion GPS product became the now-discredited eponymous Steele dossier, which James Comey's FBI and Obama's DOJ used to obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on a Trump campaign member.
Who Are Nellie and Bruce Ohr?

The so-called Nunes memorandum by the Republican majority on the House Intelligence Committee states Nellie Ohr was "employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump" and added that her husband "later provided the FBI with all of his wife's opposition research." Sen. Lindsey Graham has stated publicly that she "did the research for Mr. Steele."

We now know that, before the House Intelligence Committee, Simpson disclosed that he met personally with Bruce Ohr "at his request, after the November 2016 election to discuss our findings regarding Russia and the election." That committee also learned that during the election campaign, Bruce Ohr met with Steele, the dossier's author.

It has also come out that Bruce Ohr failed to report the source of his wife's income from Fusion GPS on his DOJ ethics disclosure forms. Such disclosure is mandatory, and Ohr's omission raises many questions.

For example, under the law, such an omission could be considered evidence tending to prove his consciousness of guilt. Why would he, in effect, conceal by omission his wife's employment by the firm that produced the meretricious Steele dossier that his own employer, the Obama DOJ, submitted under oath to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) for authorization to spy on the Trump campaign and presidency? Was he trying to hide his connections with Fusion GPS? If so, why? And what inference should a jury draw from such concealment?

He is not alone in this regard. What about Nellie Ohr's ham radio license?

Why Did Nellie Ohr Suddenly Become a Ham in 2016?

Ohr is a member of Women in International Security, which describes itself as supporting "research projects and policy engagement initiatives on critical international security issues, including the nexus between gender and security." She has done cybersecurity consulting for Accenture, a politically connected firm, for which she gave a presentation on "Ties Between Government Intelligence Services and Cyber Criminals Closer Than You Think?"

Did she develop an overwhelming middle-aged desire to talk to geeks over the radio?

It is apparent that, between her own professional experience and her marriage to a top DOJ official, she was well aware of the ability of the National Security Agency to intercept and store every communication on the Internet. Did this knowledge have anything to do with her mid-life decision to become a ham radio operator and communicate outside cyberspace?

What Was Happening When Nellie Ohr Got Her License

On May 23, 2016, she received a technician-level amateur radio license. The timing is significant. The presidential campaign was underway and she and her employer, Fusion GPS, were digging for dirt in Russia to use against Trump. Given her cybersecurity knowledge, was Nellie Ohr hoping to use non-cyber short wave communications to hide her participation in that nefarious effort from the NSA?

Recall that, in early 2016, NSA head Admiral Mike Rogers became aware of "ongoing" and "intentional" violations and abuse of FISA surveillance, which he subsequently exposed in testimony before Congress. Thereafter, pressure mounted within the Obama administration to fire him.

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If I, a pedestrian frustrated citizen tracking a few blogs/amateur media sites, could put all of this together a few years ago, I'd like to think our geniuses running the Durham investigation etc. might have figured it all out by now, but I hold out no hope they want to/would admit to it if they did.

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The theory that Nellie Ohr' FCC license was an indicator that she used amateur radio equipment to communicate information she was afraid to send over the internet never made sense to me as someone who had a technician class license since the early 1990s.

Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Nellie could buy the radio gear and use a spoofed callsign when communicating? There is effectively zero enforcement of FCC regulations requiring one to possess a license except for other Hams reporting rogue operators to the FCC and helping to locate and identify them.

The technician class license only grants privilege to use VHF and UHF frequencies. The 2M (144MHz) and 70cm (440MHz) bands are effectively line of sight communications i.e within a few miles of where she was transmiting. World band HF bands are not included in Technician class license privileges. If you want to communicate more than a few miles you need to use a repeater which means that every operator who monitors that repeater is going to hear you when you key the mic. LoS radio communication makes sense only if you are talking so frequently that it's impractical to drive to the recipient and hand them documents or a flash drive. A burner phone is a better alternative in almost every scenario. If you are worried about the cell tower logs for calls then that same concern would apply to the recorded logs of amateur repeater stations.

Of course, it would not make any sense for Ohr to use voice communication on amateur bands unless she was speaking in code to another callsign. In all likelihood she would have used packet radio which is not a high bandwidth capability in the VHF and UHF bands. Packet transmissions in the 2M and 70cm bands is similar to the baud rate of telephone modems in the 1990s. It is 8-bit message packets which mean that it's nearly useless for transmitting anything but text. Large fles such as images or PDFs would take a longoing and conspicuous time to transmit. Encrypted or coded language communication on amateur radio is a violation of the law and one of the quickest ways to get the Hams that respect the rules to record and inform the FCC is to use encrypted communications.

My point is this, if Nellie Ohr wanted to use radio burst transmission to evade surveillance on the internet or being logged, she would not have bothered to get a license an instead would have used packet radio to send short burst text messages to someone that she communicated frequently in short text messages.

Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Joffe was knee deep in this going back to Sussman in 2016 and the origin of the 'pee tape' lies ostensibly dug up by fellow ham radio hobbyist Nellie Ohr; claiming they (Fusion GPS atty's) didn't know he was involved/no idea is just…another bold face lie.

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The origin of the Michael Cohen in Prague is even more convoluted. However, that story connects to the recently highlighted connection between Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussmann and Rodney Joffe. While working for Perkins Coie, Sussmann also represented Rodney Joffe, a cybersecurity expert referred to in Durham's indictment as "Tech Executive-1." In 2016, Joffe, who has not been previously identified, worked with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Sussmann took to the FBI. {Go Deep} You'll see where Joffe surfaces toward the end.

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In October of 2018 Mrs. Nellie Ohr was questioned by a House committee about her involvement with Fusion-GPS while working as a paid contract agent for the firm. Additionally, she was questioned on: her relationship with the dossier origination; her contacts with Christopher Steele; her role and responsibility within Fusion as it related to the Trump project; and the nature of the communication between herself and the participating players inside and outside of government.

Mrs Ohr invoked spousal privilege to protect any communication between herself and her husband.
We now know that in 2016 a cybersecurity expert named Rodney Joffe was under contract with Perkins Coie and collaborating with researchers to collect internet data about the Trump Organization that Clinton Lawyer Michael Sussmann took to the FBI.

So we know the FBI was getting research information from Nellie Ohr via Chris Steele, and from Rodney Joffe via Michael Sussmann.

What do Nellie and Rodney have in common? They are both HAM Radio operators. What a coincidence.

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There is every indication the Michael Cohen visiting Prague story originated from Nellie's research and was passed along to Chris Steele becoming a point in his dossier. An unfortunately named art dealer from New York was likely mistaken for President Trump's lawyer.

Former Senate Intelligence Committee lead staffer Dan Jones was working with Glenn Simpson at Fusion-GPS. Fusion-GPS contracted with Nellie Ohr in "late 2015". This is the exact same time when thousands of unauthorized "contractor searches" were taking place within the NSA/FBI database. This is where the Ham radio comes in handy to receive, share and discuss information from database extraction.

Nellie Ohr then sends research outcomes to Chris Steele for the dossier assembly; and the dossier is then laundered back to Bruce Ohr and FBI for use in their operation against the Trump campaign. Meanwhile, Simpson and Jones are leaking to the media who are writing articles. Nellie then captures those articles to validate material in the dossier; puts the citations on a thumb-drive and gives it to Bruce. Again, it's the same damn origin.

Chris Steele is not defending his lies, he is defending the mistaken research of Nellie Ohr.

For obvious reasons, Chris Steele cannot reveal where he got both points of erroneous information without exposing himself to the legal ramifications that accompany a group of political operatives successfully weaponizing the FBI against a U.S. presidential candidate. This is not conspiracy theory, this is a factual conspiracy.

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Of course, it's all just a coincidence she/Joffe developed a mid-life sharp interest in shortwave radio transmissions, and oh by the way is a Stalin apologist;

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That brings us to Nellie Ohr, holder of amateur radio call sign KM4UDZ. Ohr graduated from Harvard University in 1983 with a degree in history and Russian literature. She studied in the Soviet Union in 1989 and obtained a PhD in Russian history in 1990.

For those of you who may be tempted to read her 400-plus page PhD thesis, here's a spoiler alert: in murdering untold millions, Joseph Stalin may have engaged in some "excesses" which, in her words, "sometimes represented desperate measures taken by a government that had little real control over the country." Translated into simple English, she meant, "Hey, cut the guy some slack. Creating a proletarian paradise can be tough and anybody can get carried away."

She is said to be fluent in the Russian language and an expert on cybersecurity. Her husband is Bruce Ohr, the former number four official in President Obama's Justice Department.

According to a sworn court filing by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, she was hired by that firm to conduct opposition research on behalf of the Clinton campaign against candidate Donald Trump. In his statement, Simpson acknowledged bank records reflect that Fusion GPS contracted with her "to help our company with its research and analysis of Mr. Trump."

At the same time, Fusion GPS retained the services of former British spy and FBI informant Christopher Steele to obtain derogatory information from his Russian sources about Trump. The final Fusion GPS product became the now-discredited eponymous Steele dossier, which James Comey's FBI and Obama's DOJ used to obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on a Trump campaign member.
Who Are Nellie and Bruce Ohr?

The so-called Nunes memorandum by the Republican majority on the House Intelligence Committee states Nellie Ohr was "employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump" and added that her husband "later provided the FBI with all of his wife's opposition research." Sen. Lindsey Graham has stated publicly that she "did the research for Mr. Steele."

We now know that, before the House Intelligence Committee, Simpson disclosed that he met personally with Bruce Ohr "at his request, after the November 2016 election to discuss our findings regarding Russia and the election." That committee also learned that during the election campaign, Bruce Ohr met with Steele, the dossier's author.

It has also come out that Bruce Ohr failed to report the source of his wife's income from Fusion GPS on his DOJ ethics disclosure forms. Such disclosure is mandatory, and Ohr's omission raises many questions.

For example, under the law, such an omission could be considered evidence tending to prove his consciousness of guilt. Why would he, in effect, conceal by omission his wife's employment by the firm that produced the meretricious Steele dossier that his own employer, the Obama DOJ, submitted under oath to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) for authorization to spy on the Trump campaign and presidency? Was he trying to hide his connections with Fusion GPS? If so, why? And what inference should a jury draw from such concealment?

He is not alone in this regard. What about Nellie Ohr's ham radio license?

Why Did Nellie Ohr Suddenly Become a Ham in 2016?

Ohr is a member of Women in International Security, which describes itself as supporting "research projects and policy engagement initiatives on critical international security issues, including the nexus between gender and security." She has done cybersecurity consulting for Accenture, a politically connected firm, for which she gave a presentation on "Ties Between Government Intelligence Services and Cyber Criminals Closer Than You Think?"

Did she develop an overwhelming middle-aged desire to talk to geeks over the radio?

It is apparent that, between her own professional experience and her marriage to a top DOJ official, she was well aware of the ability of the National Security Agency to intercept and store every communication on the Internet. Did this knowledge have anything to do with her mid-life decision to become a ham radio operator and communicate outside cyberspace?

What Was Happening When Nellie Ohr Got Her License

On May 23, 2016, she received a technician-level amateur radio license. The timing is significant. The presidential campaign was underway and she and her employer, Fusion GPS, were digging for dirt in Russia to use against Trump. Given her cybersecurity knowledge, was Nellie Ohr hoping to use non-cyber short wave communications to hide her participation in that nefarious effort from the NSA?

Recall that, in early 2016, NSA head Admiral Mike Rogers became aware of "ongoing" and "intentional" violations and abuse of FISA surveillance, which he subsequently exposed in testimony before Congress. Thereafter, pressure mounted within the Obama administration to fire him.

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If I, a pedestrian frustrated citizen tracking a few blogs/amateur media sites, could put all of this together a few years ago, I'd like to think our geniuses running the Durham investigation etc. might have figured it all out by now, but I hold out no hope they want to/would admit to it if they did.

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The theory that Nellie Ohr' FCC license was an indicator that she used amateur radio equipment to communicate information she was afraid to send over the internet never made sense to me as someone who had a technician class license since the early 1990s.

Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Nellie could buy the radio gear and use a spoofed callsign when communicating? There is effectively zero enforcement of FCC regulations requiring one to possess a license except for other Hams reporting rogue operators to the FCC and helping to locate and identify them.

The technician class license only grants privilege to use VHF and UHF frequencies. The 2M (144MHz) and 70cm (440MHz) bands are effectively line of sight communications i.e within a few miles of where she was transmiting. World band HF bands are not included in Technician class license privileges. If you want to communicate more than a few miles you need to use a repeater which means that every operator who monitors that repeater is going to hear you when you key the mic. LoS radio communication makes sense only if you are talking so frequently that it's impractical to drive to the recipient and hand them documents or a flash drive. A burner phone is a better alternative in almost every scenario. If you are worried about the cell tower logs for calls then that same concern would apply to the recorded logs of amateur repeater stations.

Of course, it would not make any sense for Ohr to use voice communication on amateur bands unless she was speaking in code to another callsign. In all likelihood she would have used packet radio which is not a high bandwidth capability in the VHF and UHF bands. Packet transmissions in the 2M and 70cm bands is similar to the baud rate of telephone modems in the 1990s. It is 8-bit message packets which mean that it's nearly useless for transmitting anything but text. Large fles such as images or PDFs would take a longoing and conspicuous time to transmit. Encrypted or coded language communication on amateur radio is a violation of the law and one of the quickest ways to get the Hams that respect the rules to record and inform the FCC is to use encrypted communications.

My point is this, if Nellie Ohr wanted to use radio burst transmission to evade surveillance on the internet or being logged, she would not have bothered to get a license an instead would have used packet radio to send short burst text messages to someone that she communicated frequently in short text messages.

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She was 'likely' communicating verbally with people in DC (such as the Russian embassy/intelligence staff, on or off site) and took this action to avoid liability as to illegal operation, on advisement the NSA etc. was not monitoring this type of communication. I mean, how many amateur operators might have overheard what she was saying, in code or not, speaking in Russian? The short range thus was a feature, not a glitch.

The timing is very suspect, her skill set, husband, language skills, and age as to when she decided to hobby in this are all indicia of what was very likely happening. Of course, Bruce wouldn't answer what was going on, invoking spousal privilege. I don't believe she's ever been asked, let alone under oath/FOIA as to why/what/when/who she decided to communicate with.

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Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Just buy the radio and use it. Getting a license doesn't make sense to me if she's trying not to leave tracks. I don't doubt that she was communicating with the Russians but applying for an FCC license is an "unforced error".

If she was communicating with Russian embassy staff they would have provided the radios anyway (and a focused directional antenna to make it essentially a point to point link that could not be intercepted except in the direction that the antenna poles are aligned).

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stetson said:

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Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Just buy the radio and use it. Getting a license doesn't make sense to me if she's trying not to leave tracks. I don't doubt that she was communicating with the Russians but applying for an FCC license is an "unforced error".

If she was communicating with Russian embassy staff they would have provided the radios anyway (and a focused directional antenna to make it essentially a point to point link that could not be intercepted except in the direction that the antenna poles are aligned).

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They never thought that they would be caught.

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stetson said:

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Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Just buy the radio and use it. Getting a license doesn't make sense to me if she's trying not to leave tracks. I don't doubt that she was communicating with the Russians but applying for an FCC license is an "unforced error".

If she was communicating with Russian embassy staff they would have provided the radios anyway (and a focused directional antenna to make it essentially a point to point link that could not be intercepted except in the direction that the antenna poles are aligned).

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Because it would look even more suspicious if it was discovered that she was using a ham radio without a license.

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Ulysses90 said:

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stetson said:

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Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Just buy the radio and use it. Getting a license doesn't make sense to me if she's trying not to leave tracks. I don't doubt that she was communicating with the Russians but applying for an FCC license is an "unforced error".

If she was communicating with Russian embassy staff they would have provided the radios anyway (and a focused directional antenna to make it essentially a point to point link that could not be intercepted except in the direction that the antenna poles are aligned).

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Because it would look even more suspicious if it was discovered that she was using a ham radio without a license.

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She would have merely issued a citation that would have been as easy to find as her license application.

The probability of getting caught (or even noticed) using amateur radio spectrum without a license is lower than the probability of a Republican unseating Nancy Pelosi or Charles Schumer. FCC prosecution of unauthorized use just doesn't happen except in rare cases where someone is using an amplifier to push a signal so strong that it "stomps on" users who obey regulations i.e., exactly the opposite of what Ohr would have been doing. Even when the FCC does get warrants, execute a search, and seize equipment it is almost always the result of a "fox hunt" by other Hams that triangulation on the rogue station and provide the evidence (with recordings) to the FCC.

It's far more likely that the FCC prosecuted encroachment of commercial or government spectrum. For example, several years ago AT&T noticed a daily anomaly of a moving outage on cell towers along I-95 between Daytona Beach and Jacksonville. It moved south to northin the morning and north to south in the evening. AT&T set up cameras and identified a blue Toyota that seemed to be present near every cell tower as it moved north and then south during its daily commute. It was AT&T that did the investigation and gathered all the evidence. They turned it over to the FCC gift wrapped with a bow on it. The FCC had the Florida highway patrol pull over the Toyota and executed a search warrant. They found a $30 cell phone jammer that the driver bought on Aliexpress. He pled guilty to putting a jamming bubble around his vehicle because he didn't like drivers in cars near his talking on the phone while driving. BTW, you won't find jammers advertised on Aliexpress because they call them "frequency testers".

I am convinced that Nellie Ohr was absolutely as dirty as the evidence indicates but the amateur license just sounds like grasping at straw when there is already a mountain of evidence that has been verified.

Notes included as exhibit D. Couple points. Indictment referenced that 3 names were given to Baker as credible researchers who supported the conclusions. Two names are notable as being cited in the Slate/New Yorker articles. Will need to research the 3rd a bit. pic.twitter.com/TXrbYyT91z

— Ryan M (@RyanM58699717) December 7, 2021

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stetson said:

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Not knowing exactly what she used it for, it would appear to me that the advantage is that no one knows who you are communicating with and what you are communicating if it is in code. I have no idea why she got a license unless out was to cover herself legally and from investigation.

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Why bother to get a license from the FCC? Just buy the radio and use it. Getting a license doesn't make sense to me if she's trying not to leave tracks. I don't doubt that she was communicating with the Russians but applying for an FCC license is an "unforced error".

If she was communicating with Russian embassy staff they would have provided the radios anyway (and a focused directional antenna to make it essentially a point to point link that could not be intercepted except in the direction that the antenna poles are aligned).

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I think you are right, heck, even arguendo that she was unlikely to be prosecuted for operating the radio on those spectrums without a license.

I think the issue is that (a) there's no other probably cause/motivation for her to have used the radio, and (b) sometimes attorneys (such as her husband) are just overly cautious about licenses/rules/laws. It's in their 'dna' basically to comply, whether it is hunting or fishing licenses/permits/processes/training or anything like this. When she told her husband what she wanted to do (after the trump tower visit by Admiral Rogers) the simplest explanation is that he advised her she could communicate, without concern for surveillance, via shortwave as done with the 'Russian' sources (embassy/steele, whoever) but recommended she get a license. And she did. And thanks to spousal privilege they will never have to answer to that under oath.

It was and is a clever plan, even if circumstantially damning.

Nearly 100k pages of discovery provided to Sussmann, with more to come. For a false statement. The indictment went into Alfa bank... so throw that in there. That's roughly 25 Mueller reports worth of material. On Alfa bank?

That's a massive amount of work product.

— Ryan M (@RyanM58699717) December 7, 2021

Thus far, Durham has produced to Sussmann 91K pages of unclassified discovery and 5,000 pages of classified discovery.

Includes entire FBI Case file (including notes taken by FBI Asst Dir.), grand jury transcripts.

Read Durham's latest motion here:https://t.co/24HfbpvqEG

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 7, 2021

Most remarkable detail shared by Durham today is that Baker not only immediately told Priestap about Sussmann but also a high-ranking official in FBI's General Counsel office.

Not buying Baker's fuzzy memory when he talked to IG Horowitz. He knew but was covering for Sussmann. https://t.co/VQqICMaxDn

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) December 8, 2021

HAPPENING NOW: Discussion of possible trial date for former DNC outside counsel Michael Sussmann, charged with false statement to FBI by Special Counsel Durham. Judge says he understands deft’s desire to ‘get on with his life win, lose or draw.'

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) December 8, 2021

Cooper: 'I think where this is going [for trial] is mid-late-May, early June.' Notes again that Durham prosecutors already have Danchenko trial scheduled for April 18 in EDVA.

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) December 8, 2021

Cooper says he expects the chief judge’s halt of speedy trial clock due to pandemic to be extended further (now expires Dec. 15) due to #COVID19 numbers in DC. Hearing ends. We expect to get a trial date in a written order.

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) December 8, 2021

'Russiagate is the biggest scandal in American history. Nothing comes close in size, scope or harm to the republic than the years-long effort to cripple Donald Trump’s presidency by claiming he conspired with an enemy state to steal the 2016 election and' https://t.co/iANlRcMyTl

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) December 9, 2021

bump... you guys haven't posted in a while.. just bringing this up to the top for you guys

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I've been too excited about Aggie Football lately. I haven't been doing much politic'ing.

So Danchenko changes lawyers and is now being represented by the lawyers from the Clinton Campaign. SCO asking the court if it is a conflict.

Then this:

This is significant.

Special Counsel John Durham:

The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.

👀https://t.co/ToR87IvNCZ

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 20, 2021

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So Danchenko changes lawyers and is now being represented by the lawyers from the Clinton Campaign. SCO asking the court if it is a conflict.

Then this:

This is significant.

Special Counsel John Durham:

The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.

👀https://t.co/ToR87IvNCZ

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) December 20, 2021

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I guess she has to run now. DOJ "rules" would maker her untouchable

multiple former employees of that campaign, in matters before the Special Counsel…On each of these issues, the interests of the Clinton Campaign + the defendant might diverge.” Filing asks court to explore potential conflict among lawyers. @RobLegare https://t.co/GPXCbAPF2f

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) December 20, 2021

Guess since football is over, I can give more attention to politics again.

Trainor (fbi) told the committee that while it was common for victims to retain cyber security vendors, it was uncommon to have "everything thoroughly reviewed and vetted (by outside counsel) before being shared."

Looking at you, Sussmann.

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

Henry told the committee that Crowdstrike "had more than 100 exchanges back and forth with the FBI," including FBI field offices, from May 2016 until September 2017"

✅September 2017 is rubicon yet crossed, perhaps the last act in furtherance😉

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

Theoretically, they could've done some heavy lifting before his appointment as special counsel, but I don't see that being the case.

Alfa bank pings, Clinton Foundation, DNC hack, Steele dossier, Mueller team, etc. I don't see enough spending to say he is looking at it all. https://t.co/2lt8COSnxi

— Ryan M (@RyanM58699717) December 23, 2021

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Guess since football is over, I can give more attention to politics again.

Trainor (fbi) told the committee that while it was common for victims to retain cyber security vendors, it was uncommon to have "everything thoroughly reviewed and vetted (by outside counsel) before being shared."

Looking at you, Sussmann.

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

Henry told the committee that Crowdstrike "had more than 100 exchanges back and forth with the FBI," including FBI field offices, from May 2016 until September 2017"

✅September 2017 is rubicon yet crossed, perhaps the last act in furtherance😉

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

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Football isn't over. A&M is playing an intrasquad game on January 2nd in Florida!

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Guess since football is over, I can give more attention to politics again.

Trainor (fbi) told the committee that while it was common for victims to retain cyber security vendors, it was uncommon to have "everything thoroughly reviewed and vetted (by outside counsel) before being shared."

Looking at you, Sussmann.

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

Henry told the committee that Crowdstrike "had more than 100 exchanges back and forth with the FBI," including FBI field offices, from May 2016 until September 2017"

✅September 2017 is rubicon yet crossed, perhaps the last act in furtherance😉

— Mccabe's Porsche on Blocks (@Larry_Beech) December 22, 2021

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"Henry told the committee that Crowdstrike "had more than 100 exchanges back and forth with the FBI," including FBI field offices, from May 2016 until September 2017"


Would like to see all of these.

I don't understand why Biden, at some Dems behest, doesn't just shut this thing down.

I want the whole thing done, and assess burned, but y'all know if it gets serious, Biden will cut the cord and no one (meaning all media and 50% of the country) won't give a damn! Maybe they expect Sussman to be the fall guy. Hell, it doesn't look like they'll go after Hillary anyway.

Well well, sounds like musical lawyers these days, the special counsel's team listed out five topics that could become relevant to the defense of Danchenko:

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"the Clinton Campaign's knowledge or lack of knowledge concerning the veracity of information" in the Steele dossier; "the Clinton Campaign's awareness or lack of awareness" of Danchenko's "collection methods" for the dossier; "meetings or communications" between the Clinton campaign and Steele about Danchenko; "the defendant's knowledge or lack of knowledge regarding the Clinton Campaign's role in" the dossier; and "the extent to which the Clinton Campaign and/or its representatives directed, solicited, or controlled" Danchenko's actions.

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Sounds like Durham has made it plain that there is a very strong possibility of a conflict of interest with the law firm Schertler Onorato Mead and Sears, who represent Danchenko and warns of their possible requirement to separate from the case.

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"On each of these issues, the interests of the Clinton Campaign and the defendant might diverge," Durham said. "For example, the Clinton Campaign and the defendant each might have an incentive to shift blame and/or responsibility to the other party for any allegedly false information that was contained within the Company Reports and/or provided to the FBI."

Durham's team also hinted that former Clinton campaign members will be called to testify, which could be "a potential conflict." The special counsel said it is likely the defense law firm "already has obtained privileged information" from the Clinton campaign about Danchenko and the dossier.

But the prosecution said it "believes that this potential conflict is waivable" if Danchenko chooses to waive it. The judge ordered the defense team to file a potential waiver by Christmas Eve.

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Durham's team was raising questions about Robert Trout, who represented John Podesta in another matter. Trout had to seperate from the Danchenko case for conflict and that's when Stuart Sears and Danny Onorato, took over as Danchenko's defense lawyers last month.

In a court filing today, Igor Danchenko waived any actual or potential conflict with his attorney Stuart Sears. Danchenko consulted with 3rd party attorney Nina Ginsberg in order to make this decision. pic.twitter.com/k4gTyw3NSo

— ThunderStrzok (Real Thunder; not really Strzok) (@ThunderStrzok1) December 24, 2021

Federal judge can ignore that waiver, last I checked. Not saying that will happen here but they have the authority to do so.

Reason being is that Durham seems to be suggesting some of the lawyers at that firm may be subject to criminal liability and allowing that waiver would be tantamount to an ineffective assistance of counsel claim on appeal of conviction.

A bit of 3 dimensional chess likely at work here. It's not enough that Danchenko waive the conflict -- the other client must waive it as well. That is the Clinton Campaign.
Durham is just forcing this issue into open court -- what Brandon Van Grack should have done re Flynn. https://t.co/Txm2MjxVHo

— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) December 25, 2021

If they did that while he was represented by Clinton Campaign counsel, they would risk creating a basis for suppression of any info given to them by Danchenko while he was represented by the Clinton Campaign's attorney.
Nothing compels the Clinton Campaign to get involved.

— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) December 25, 2021

The Court does not have jurisdiction to bring the Clinton Campaign into the matter now if it does not voluntarily wish to come forward. The Court cannot force the Clinton Campaign to waive or not waive the conflict.
The burden is on Danchenko's attorney--which is Durham wants.

— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) December 25, 2021

Kash Patel on why Danchenko's law firm's conflict is such a big deal.

The elephant in the room is and remains: who pays Danchenko's lawyers? Who paid Schamel for all these years? Who's paying the new lawyers?

The answer to that question is the final unravelling of Russiagate. pic.twitter.com/z4fLiv6BRy

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) December 25, 2021

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For those of you who may be tempted to read her 400-plus page PhD thesis, here's a spoiler alert: in murdering untold millions, Joseph Stalin may have engaged in some "excesses" which, in her words, "sometimes represented desperate measures taken by a government that had little real control over the country." Translated into simple English, she meant, "Hey, cut the guy some slack. Creating a proletarian paradise can be tough and anybody can get carried away."

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The fact she wrote this is unconscionable and disgusting. The fact she was anywhere near our government is absolutely dangerous. She should be in prison serving very long sentences for multiple crimes.
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