Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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In all honesty, this thread is probably one of the best resources on the Internet documenting this entire story. The number of revelations and quality of dialogue and analysis is astonishing. Thanks to all who have contributed. I hesitate to make a list and leave anyone off it but you know who you are.

Let's hope the real fun begins soon...
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1292556657629831169.html

Short thread summarizing the lies in that February 2018 FBI briefing to the SSCI.
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drcrinum said:

Not far from the truth. I'm flattered to say the least. I think I'm doing rather good though, considering I can say that Joe Biden is several years my junior.
Thank you for your service, Sir!
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So what is going on with this?

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is warning his country's citizens against interfering in foreign elections, calling it "unacceptable" under any circumstance.

Zelensky also rejected any possibility that Ukraine is involved in attempts to interfere in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The comments came just a day after a top U.S. counterintelligence official said that a pro-Russian Ukrainian lawmaker was participating in a Kremlin effort to meddle in the November election.

"Once again, I assure our partners that Ukraine did not allow and will not allow itself to intervene in the future in the elections and thereby harm our trustworthy and sincere partnerships with the United States," Zelensky said in a statement shared on Facebook on Saturday.

He added that preventing Ukraine's domestic policy from interfering in U.S. affairs was a "matter of our national security."
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William Evanina, the director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, said Friday that foreign adversaries including Russia, China and Iran are targeting the upcoming U.S. presidential election. In his report, he said that Russia was deploying a range of measures to "primarily denigrate" presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and boost President Trump.

"Some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump's candidacy on social media and Russian television," Evanina said.

He said that Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach, whom he described as "pro Russia," was "spreading claims about corruption including through publicizing leaked phone calls to undermine Biden's candidacy and the Democratic Party."
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This person says it was McCabe who did the briefing

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What was a "retiring" McCabe doing in that briefing? Guy was fired in March 2018.

ETA: Sessions really sucked.
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Garrelli 5000 said:

From Matt Taibbi's site no less.

He has historically been pretty far left and anti-right.
He's been pretty good on the Russia hoax
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TRM said:

This person says it was McCabe who did the briefing


Agreed, it appears McCabe did it:
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5 (U) SSCI Transcript of the Interview with Andrew McCabe, February 14, 2018, p. 36.
This was a requested briefing by the SSCI -- pre-arranged from sometime earlier. In preparing for this briefing though, McCabe would have consulted with Laufman and reviewed his Danchenko negotiating & interview notes notes as well as the official 302s on Danchenko for that 3 day January 2017 interview. Methinks Laufman could see the handwriting on the wall that McCabe was going to mislead the SSCI in order to provide cover for Mueller & decided to jump ship so he could obtain a lucrative private practice before the 'fit hit the shan'.




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Shipwrecked is out with a piece on the Senate judiciary's release;

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A stunning FBI document was released by the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier today.
The document is titled "SSCI Briefing on Former Employee of Christopher Steele", and subtitled "Draft Talking Points As Of 14 February 2018."

A general characterization of the content of the document would be that it lays out ways to address the issue of the FBI's knowledge of Steele's "Primary Subsource", now known to have been Igor Danchenko. A 57 page "electronic communication" detailing the late January 2017 interview of Danchenko, lasting over a period of 3 days, has previously been declassified and released by the Senate. I wrote about the contents of the EC here.

That "EC" revealed that Danchenko's "network" of sources for the information he delivered to Steele was nothing more than childhood friends and drinking buddies, none of whom were in positions in Russia that brought them into the orbit of Russian intelligence services, or had access to any insider information from the Putin government as was portrayed in Steele's memos.

The newly released FBI document, which is captioned as a "Draft" addresses how the information known by the FBI about Danchencko should be communicated to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Those details are important, and I will get to them in a moment. But what is most important to understand here is the calendar.
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But the most outrageous parts of the memo comes at the end when the FBI offers its assessment of Danchenko and the impact of his interview on the allegations of the memos which by this time have been used 4 times to secure FISA warrants on Carter Page.

Why? Because by this point in time the SCO knew the Russia allegations were baseless and they had now turned their effort into an inquiry into "obstruction." But they needed to maintain the "cover" of a continuing investigation of Russia connections, and the best way to do that was to take the information that was already made public with the publication of the Steele Memos and advise the Senate Intelligence
Committee that the sourcing behind the claims in those memos was valid even if the specific claims themselves had been difficult to confirm.

What we don't know at this point is who was behind this memo, and this effort to blatantly mislead the Senate Committee. The potential class of actors involved cannot be that big. This is why the silence of certain former FBI officials is so intriguing. Someone has talked about how this memo came to be, and who was behind the formulation.

Hopefully, that question will be answered by Durham soon.


He/She is right, as usual...read the whole thing.
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But the most outrageous parts of the memo comes at the end when the FBI offers its assessment of Danchenko and the impact of his interview on the allegations of the memos which by this time have been used 4 times to secure FISA warrants on Carter Page.
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How have discussions with Danchenko affected the FBl's understanding of or confidence in the Steele dossier? At MINIMUM, our discussions with Danchenko confirm that the dossier was not fabricated by Steele. Our discussions with Danchenko confirmed that he operates within high level academic and government circles, maintains trusted relationships with individuals who are capable of reporting on the material he collected for Steele, and that Steele and utilized reasonably sound intelligence tradecraft.

"Reasonably sound intelligence tradecraft'????? Reasonably?

Steele is supposed to be an experienced spy. There is no reasonable person standard here. Hence my earlier assessment that Steele certainly was never a full fledged field agent and likely not even a top notch analyst. Just a brown noser who poured coffee and could play Mother during tea time.
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sundance doesn't like Schrage very much.

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.....Everything in this memo would have been vetted by the SCO. Everything in this memo was part of "Crossfire Hurricane", and when Rosenstein appointed Mueller he assigned to the SCO the entirely of the investigation that Comey had referred to during his testimony before Congress in late March 2017 -- including everything in the Steele memos. These subjects were now under the control and supervision of the SCO, and on these issues the FBI was working for the SCO.

To the extent this memo misled the Senate, that was Robert Mueller's SCO misleading the Senate -- plain and simple.....
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The only possible purpose for taking this clearly unjustified view at this point in time was to keep the Senate Intelligence Committee in neutral and on the sideline and to use the Senate Intelligence Committee members as a "shield" to ward off pursuit by AG Barr of inquiries that could have exposed the fraud......

At this juncture, I doubt Mueller knew much about what was going on with his investigation. Rather, this was Weissmann's doings. And as far as the SSCI was concerned, we know that Warner was helping Weissmann keep blinders on the other Committee members.
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drcrinum said:

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.....Everything in this memo would have been vetted by the SCO. Everything in this memo was part of "Crossfire Hurricane", and when Rosenstein appointed Mueller he assigned to the SCO the entirely of the investigation that Comey had referred to during his testimony before Congress in late March 2017 -- including everything in the Steele memos. These subjects were now under the control and supervision of the SCO, and on these issues the FBI was working for the SCO.

To the extent this memo misled the Senate, that was Robert Mueller's SCO misleading the Senate -- plain and simple.....
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The only possible purpose for taking this clearly unjustified view at this point in time was to keep the Senate Intelligence Committee in neutral and on the sideline and to use the Senate Intelligence Committee members as a "shield" to ward off pursuit by AG Barr of inquiries that could have exposed the fraud......

At this juncture, I doubt Mueller knew much about what was going on with his investigation. Rather, this was Weissmann's doings. And as far as the SSCI was concerned, we know that Warner was helping Weissmann keep blinders on the other Committee members.

Personally, I'm not 'so quick' to give Mueller 'carte blanche'. He likely 'handed off' the bulk of the investigation to Weissmann, but doubt he was blind/obtuse as to its direction and illicit intent.
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Personally, I'm not 'so quick' to give Mueller 'carte blanche'. He likely 'handed off' the bulk of the investigation to Weissmann, but doubt he was blind/obtuse as to its direction and illicit intent.
Mueller knew what he wanted to know. Same with the weasel, Rod Rosenstein. Both could be Sergeant Schultz when it suited them.

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More confirmation that McCabe did the briefing with the SSCI on February 14, 2018. Scott Schools, a career civil servant, was Associate Deputy Attorney General from 2016 to July 2018.
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Sounds like the answer for everyone that worked under Obama. Either the most incompetent administration or the most corrupt.

I think everyone knows the answer to that question...
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drcrinum said:



More confirmation that McCabe did the briefing with the SSCI on February 14, 2018. Scott Schools, a career civil servant, was Associate Deputy Attorney General from 2016 to July 2018.

McCabe was soooooo close to getting away with it too. Thought he had skated on federal charges. So when he gets charged with multiple counts of perjury before Congress??

I'd take a McCabe perp walk right about now.
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RulesForTheNotForMe said:

Sounds like the answer for everyone that worked under Obama. Either the most incompetent administration or the most corrupt.

I think everyone knows the answer to that question...


Why not both?
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RulesForTheNotForMe said:

Sounds like the answer for everyone that worked under Obama. Either the most incompetent administration or the most corrupt.

I think everyone knows the answer to that question...
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aggiehawg said:

sundance doesn't like Schrage very much.

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CYA attempt at least 2 years too late. He still may have some good info though
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With no sports I wish we could at least publicly hang one of these traitors for entertainment.
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Come on guys, it's past time to get something done. I'm beginning to wonder if they intend to do anything.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/10/status-update-meet-at-the-old-mill-we-ride-at-midnight/

Sundance & his group have briefed someone on Durham's Team about their findings. If Durham hasn't acted by Friday night, the name of Durham's staffer will be leaked & Sundance's group will begin briefing larger audiences on their findings. He says their briefing lasts about 1.5 hours.
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drcrinum said:



https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/10/status-update-meet-at-the-old-mill-we-ride-at-midnight/

Sundance & his group have briefed someone on Durham's Team about their findings. If Durham hasn't acted by Friday night, the name of Durham's staffer will be leaked & Sundance's group will begin briefing larger audiences on their findings. He says their briefing lasts about 1.5 hours.



I pray this is real!
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CTH's threat is nonsensical.

If no action by Friday, he shares the names of the primary investigator (sic), and 24 hours later the name goes public so his readers can do as they wish?

What's the difference between "sharing" the name(s) and "making it (them) public"?

It just has a very Q feel to it.
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Also, no one is going to listen to it. It's a wacky conspiracy theory starter kit, even if the information is true and verified.

Perception is reality and when those who control the perception arent on your side... good luck.

As many other have said, nothing will come from Durham's or Barr's investigations. The beast is too big.
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drcrinum said:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/10/status-update-meet-at-the-old-mill-we-ride-at-midnight/

Sundance & his group have briefed someone on Durham's Team about their findings. If Durham hasn't acted by Friday night, the name of Durham's staffer will be leaked & Sundance's group will begin briefing larger audiences on their findings. He says their briefing lasts about 1.5 hours.
Too much drama. Color me skeptical.
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You are hereby commanded!
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Too many subpoenas, too many hearings, too much bravado. Too little action. I'm done.
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who?mikejones said:

Also, no one is going to listen to it. It's a wacky conspiracy theory starter kit, even if the information is true and verified.

Perception is reality and when those who control the perception arent on your side... good luck.

As many other have said, nothing will come from Durham's or Barr's investigations. The beast is too big.
I pray you are wrong.

They (deep state, Rep's and Sen's and the msm) almost pulled off soft coup, they have destroyed lives and life savings because of their TDS.

We as a country need them pay for their transgressions, or the two - tiered justice system is permanently ingrained.

This whole thing has been a travesty. There has to be retribution.
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Rockdoc said:

Too many subpoenas, too many hearings, too much bravado. Too little action. I'm done.
You'll be in a much better mood within the next 20 business days.
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benchmark said:

Rockdoc said:

Too many subpoenas, too many hearings, too much bravado. Too little action. I'm done.
You'll be in a much better mood within the next 20 business days.

I pray you are correct sir.
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McAdoo Gordon thread breaking down pleadings on the rehearing in the Flynn case tomorrow.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1292625562532552710.html
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