I'd say anyone close to the FISA court panel of judges needs to be viewed with a careful eye.
Aggiehawg from 2019...it truly is unfathomable that the only one he's gone ballistic on so far is Flynn. I would be shocked at this point if Sullivan isn't being extorted bigly to rule the way he has so far. Would be nice to have a FISA warrant on all of his communications but we know that's wrong...well, at least one party and every freedom loving American knows that's wrong.aggiehawg said:
That Brandon Van Grack needs to have his ticket ripped to practice law. Judge Sullivan, in the past, has been a real stickler on Brady material from everything I've seen. Unfathomable to me why he hasn't gone ballistic on the prosecutors yet.
ETA: IIRC, Sullivan's Brady orders include criminal contempt, meaning he can throw the prosecutors in jail.
Good point...perhaps the bad actors have FISA warrants on them WITH PREDICATE and it picked up some interesting comms with Sullivan showing his strings clearly pulled.Secolobo said:
Sounds like sidney's mouth is watering and she knows something.
Taken from another thread, "FISA works both ways."
Maybe that's what Solomon is referring to.
Seriously doubt there are FISA warrants but can't rule out there may be Article III judge issued warrants with probable cause. If directed towards Sullivan specifically, the most likely probable cause would be a bribery investigation, as long as we are speculating.Prosperdick said:Good point...perhaps the bad actors have FISA warrants on them WITH PREDICATE and it picked up some interesting comms with Sullivan showing his strings clearly pulled.Secolobo said:
Sounds like sidney's mouth is watering and she knows something.
Taken from another thread, "FISA works both ways."
Maybe that's what Solomon is referring to.
Doesn't Roberts "supervise" for lack of a better term the FISA court?MouthBQ98 said:
I'd say anyone close to the FISA court panel of judges needs to be viewed with a careful eye.
If even a quarter of this is true, Sullivan is in a lot of trouble.Quote:
Mr. (judge) Sullivan,
I had hoped all along that you would do the right thing, that you would realize that what you're trying to hide is known by people on both sides. I had hoped in knowing that you would consider the situation moot and do the right thing.
You did not. Instead you turned to your friends for more political favors and cover. So maybe exposing some of those crimes will prompt you to recuse yourself. It's obvious you can't be relied upon to do your job impartially and dismiss all charges, exonerating General Flynn.
We have met. I have unfortunately worked with Elijah Cummings on more than one occasion. The latest was when he asked me to "assess"
the viability of his wife's political campaign. The access granted for that proved very very interesting.
Quick question "your honor", over the years how many millions of dollars in government funds did yourself and your buddy Elijah Cummings siphon off of Howard University? I guess you were right when you said " they don't need it they never amount to anything".
On a side note, I think it's very kind of you to help your a good friend Cummings in his little multimillion-dollar insurance fraud scheme.
Like he said no one's ever going to get a police search warrant for federal judges house.
What better place to hide a bunch of "stolen" art work. I especially like the two of you have in your private office at home.
You don't have any intention of giving those back do you?
But I digress.
Besides the money laundering and the insurance fraud for yourself and your friends. Should we talk about the cases that you have corrupted for money or favors?
I've compiled quite a list.
Perhaps I should point out the non politically advantageous cases
where you just stuck it to the defendant because you could, or because you didn't like them or their race, or because you had "fixed" so many other cases you had to make some of them look "normal". Any comment judge?
Because it's about to get worse.
There was a "secret" deal in your courtroom, a deal threatening General Flynn's son. You can pretend it was a secret but you knew about it the entire time. You colluded with the prosecutor continuously. But all that's very obvious now.
An innocent man faced with evil,
evil against himself and his son. An honorable man, an intelligent man with integrity, a warrior, will stand in front of his son against any evil.
An evil plan thought you knew of an allowed to happen. Then you pretended not to know anything about it.
And when it did finally come out you did not rebuke the prosecution for it.
General Flynn fell on a sword for his son, you cannot ask for a greater love or respect. I know it well, I had to do it for my wife and my family.
We just discussed a relationship between a father and his son. One of the strongest bonds in this world and beyond.
I understand your a father as well.
Normally I would not discuss children but since your children figure so prominently in shaping your decisions on the bench
I will go ahead and include them here.
You have two sons, both of them violent no good pieces of crap that Daddy has had to cover for their whole life.
One in particular, your namesake. That must be a particular thorn in your side.
In 2012 he was arrested for the violent assault and rape of an underage girl. He beat and raped her for several hours at his home, and when he was "finished" with her, he left her laying on the floor while he went and watched television.
He didn't give her another thought until approximately an hour later when he went to use the bathroom and she was still laying in the same spot, unresponsive.
Did he call an ambulance out of concern? No.He left the house and called you from his car.
You wanted to know who it was,
Obviously this has happened before and you wanted to know how bad clean up was going to be this time. This time it was the daughter of a "family friend", someone who owed you a lot someone you had enriched, and abusing your authority as usual you knew you could cover it up.
Instead of calling 911 because of"recordings", you instructed your son to call the local fire department directly. (Real shame they keep a recorded line as well ) and once was dispatched to your sons address found the girl lying against the wall in the bedroom,
still unresponsive. They got her to the hospital, saved her life, she was bleeding externally and internally, another hour and she would not have made it, saving daddy's little namesake a murder charge.
But the ambulance company call the police reported it oh, your son was arrested. There was no way out the evidence was overwhelming so you and Cummings, and Rod took care of it.
Lost in the system, no disposition.
Still on the books but never made it to court.
Your son must be very lucky have you as a father. The girl was not as lucky. That was in 2012, this is 2020, this summer she'll be old enough to take her first legal drink.
I don't know what she'll celebrate if she does, her life has been very difficult. Everything she's had to
go through, including her own family, her father that you control, telling her to "get over it".
She has a lot to get over, at least she will never be burdened with a child like your buddy Obama says, no concessions for her, too much damage for that.
But you managed to bury it. Fast forward a few more years and the same son is picked up in a multi-state sting of online pedophiles. I'm sure all those pictures and videos he was trading, all those children oh, I'm sure they were asking for it too
Back to your friends, Cummings, Catherine Pugh, rod. Funny how are your friends are corrupt or convicted. With that previous charge still on the books you really had to call in some favors to make this go away. Close to 900 people picked up, you managed to make that case
disappear somewhere in between the state and federal level, with some RR help there. Wouldn't want him to pay for the crimes he committed would we?
You owe so much to so many people and they are really pulling your strings now aren't they?
You are unfit for the bench you do not
Yes, the Chief Justice of SCOTUS has supervisory authority over the FISA courts, according to the statute, whatever form that might take.rab79 said:Doesn't Roberts "supervise" for lack of a better term the FISA court?MouthBQ98 said:
I'd say anyone close to the FISA court panel of judges needs to be viewed with a careful eye.
Where is this from? Pure rumor mongering or are there some kernels of truth here?VaultingChemist said:If even a quarter of this is true, Sullivan is in a lot of trouble.Quote:
Mr. (judge) Sullivan,
I had hoped all along that you would do the right thing, that you would realize that what you're trying to hide is known by people on both sides. I had hoped in knowing that you would consider the situation moot and do the right thing.
You did not. Instead you turned to your friends for more political favors and cover. So maybe exposing some of those crimes will prompt you to recuse yourself. It's obvious you can't be relied upon to do your job impartially and dismiss all charges, exonerating General Flynn.
We have met. I have unfortunately worked with Elijah Cummings on more than one occasion. The latest was when he asked me to "assess"
the viability of his wife's political campaign. The access granted for that proved very very interesting.
Quick question "your honor", over the years how many millions of dollars in government funds did yourself and your buddy Elijah Cummings siphon off of Howard University? I guess you were right when you said " they don't need it they never amount to anything".
On a side note, I think it's very kind of you to help your a good friend Cummings in his little multimillion-dollar insurance fraud scheme.
Like he said no one's ever going to get a police search warrant for federal judges house.
What better place to hide a bunch of "stolen" art work. I especially like the two of you have in your private office at home.
You don't have any intention of giving those back do you?
But I digress.
Besides the money laundering and the insurance fraud for yourself and your friends. Should we talk about the cases that you have corrupted for money or favors?
I've compiled quite a list.
Perhaps I should point out the non politically advantageous cases
where you just stuck it to the defendant because you could, or because you didn't like them or their race, or because you had "fixed" so many other cases you had to make some of them look "normal". Any comment judge?
Because it's about to get worse.
There was a "secret" deal in your courtroom, a deal threatening General Flynn's son. You can pretend it was a secret but you knew about it the entire time. You colluded with the prosecutor continuously. But all that's very obvious now.
An innocent man faced with evil,
evil against himself and his son. An honorable man, an intelligent man with integrity, a warrior, will stand in front of his son against any evil.
An evil plan thought you knew of an allowed to happen. Then you pretended not to know anything about it.
And when it did finally come out you did not rebuke the prosecution for it.
General Flynn fell on a sword for his son, you cannot ask for a greater love or respect. I know it well, I had to do it for my wife and my family.
We just discussed a relationship between a father and his son. One of the strongest bonds in this world and beyond.
I understand your a father as well.
Normally I would not discuss children but since your children figure so prominently in shaping your decisions on the bench
I will go ahead and include them here.
You have two sons, both of them violent no good pieces of crap that Daddy has had to cover for their whole life.
One in particular, your namesake. That must be a particular thorn in your side.
In 2012 he was arrested for the violent assault and rape of an underage girl. He beat and raped her for several hours at his home, and when he was "finished" with her, he left her laying on the floor while he went and watched television.
He didn't give her another thought until approximately an hour later when he went to use the bathroom and she was still laying in the same spot, unresponsive.
Did he call an ambulance out of concern? No.He left the house and called you from his car.
You wanted to know who it was,
Obviously this has happened before and you wanted to know how bad clean up was going to be this time. This time it was the daughter of a "family friend", someone who owed you a lot someone you had enriched, and abusing your authority as usual you knew you could cover it up.
Instead of calling 911 because of"recordings", you instructed your son to call the local fire department directly. (Real shame they keep a recorded line as well ) and once was dispatched to your sons address found the girl lying against the wall in the bedroom,
still unresponsive. They got her to the hospital, saved her life, she was bleeding externally and internally, another hour and she would not have made it, saving daddy's little namesake a murder charge.
But the ambulance company call the police reported it oh, your son was arrested. There was no way out the evidence was overwhelming so you and Cummings, and Rod took care of it.
Lost in the system, no disposition.
Still on the books but never made it to court.
Your son must be very lucky have you as a father. The girl was not as lucky. That was in 2012, this is 2020, this summer she'll be old enough to take her first legal drink.
I don't know what she'll celebrate if she does, her life has been very difficult. Everything she's had to
go through, including her own family, her father that you control, telling her to "get over it".
She has a lot to get over, at least she will never be burdened with a child like your buddy Obama says, no concessions for her, too much damage for that.
But you managed to bury it. Fast forward a few more years and the same son is picked up in a multi-state sting of online pedophiles. I'm sure all those pictures and videos he was trading, all those children oh, I'm sure they were asking for it too
Back to your friends, Cummings, Catherine Pugh, rod. Funny how are your friends are corrupt or convicted. With that previous charge still on the books you really had to call in some favors to make this go away. Close to 900 people picked up, you managed to make that case
disappear somewhere in between the state and federal level, with some RR help there. Wouldn't want him to pay for the crimes he committed would we?
You owe so much to so many people and they are really pulling your strings now aren't they?
You are unfit for the bench you do not
John @JohnheretohelpProc92 said:
Where is this from? Pure rumor mongering or are there some kernels of truth here?
VaultingChemist said:If even a quarter of this is true, Sullivan is in a lot of trouble.Quote:
Mr. (judge) Sullivan,
I had hoped all along that you would do the right thing, that you would realize that what you're trying to hide is known by people on both sides. I had hoped in knowing that you would consider the situation moot and do the right thing.
You did not. Instead you turned to your friends for more political favors and cover. So maybe exposing some of those crimes will prompt you to recuse yourself. It's obvious you can't be relied upon to do your job impartially and dismiss all charges, exonerating General Flynn.
We have met. I have unfortunately worked with Elijah Cummings on more than one occasion. The latest was when he asked me to "assess"
the viability of his wife's political campaign. The access granted for that proved very very interesting.
Quick question "your honor", over the years how many millions of dollars in government funds did yourself and your buddy Elijah Cummings siphon off of Howard University? I guess you were right when you said " they don't need it they never amount to anything".
On a side note, I think it's very kind of you to help your a good friend Cummings in his little multimillion-dollar insurance fraud scheme.
Like he said no one's ever going to get a police search warrant for federal judges house.
What better place to hide a bunch of "stolen" art work. I especially like the two of you have in your private office at home.
You don't have any intention of giving those back do you?
But I digress.
Besides the money laundering and the insurance fraud for yourself and your friends. Should we talk about the cases that you have corrupted for money or favors?
I've compiled quite a list.
Perhaps I should point out the non politically advantageous cases
where you just stuck it to the defendant because you could, or because you didn't like them or their race, or because you had "fixed" so many other cases you had to make some of them look "normal". Any comment judge?
Because it's about to get worse.
There was a "secret" deal in your courtroom, a deal threatening General Flynn's son. You can pretend it was a secret but you knew about it the entire time. You colluded with the prosecutor continuously. But all that's very obvious now.
An innocent man faced with evil,
evil against himself and his son. An honorable man, an intelligent man with integrity, a warrior, will stand in front of his son against any evil.
An evil plan thought you knew of an allowed to happen. Then you pretended not to know anything about it.
And when it did finally come out you did not rebuke the prosecution for it.
General Flynn fell on a sword for his son, you cannot ask for a greater love or respect. I know it well, I had to do it for my wife and my family.
We just discussed a relationship between a father and his son. One of the strongest bonds in this world and beyond.
I understand your a father as well.
Normally I would not discuss children but since your children figure so prominently in shaping your decisions on the bench
I will go ahead and include them here.
You have two sons, both of them violent no good pieces of crap that Daddy has had to cover for their whole life.
One in particular, your namesake. That must be a particular thorn in your side.
In 2012 he was arrested for the violent assault and rape of an underage girl. He beat and raped her for several hours at his home, and when he was "finished" with her, he left her laying on the floor while he went and watched television.
He didn't give her another thought until approximately an hour later when he went to use the bathroom and she was still laying in the same spot, unresponsive.
Did he call an ambulance out of concern? No.He left the house and called you from his car.
You wanted to know who it was,
Obviously this has happened before and you wanted to know how bad clean up was going to be this time. This time it was the daughter of a "family friend", someone who owed you a lot someone you had enriched, and abusing your authority as usual you knew you could cover it up.
Instead of calling 911 because of"recordings", you instructed your son to call the local fire department directly. (Real shame they keep a recorded line as well ) and once was dispatched to your sons address found the girl lying against the wall in the bedroom,
still unresponsive. They got her to the hospital, saved her life, she was bleeding externally and internally, another hour and she would not have made it, saving daddy's little namesake a murder charge.
But the ambulance company call the police reported it oh, your son was arrested. There was no way out the evidence was overwhelming so you and Cummings, and Rod took care of it.
Lost in the system, no disposition.
Still on the books but never made it to court.
Your son must be very lucky have you as a father. The girl was not as lucky. That was in 2012, this is 2020, this summer she'll be old enough to take her first legal drink.
I don't know what she'll celebrate if she does, her life has been very difficult. Everything she's had to
go through, including her own family, her father that you control, telling her to "get over it".
She has a lot to get over, at least she will never be burdened with a child like your buddy Obama says, no concessions for her, too much damage for that.
But you managed to bury it. Fast forward a few more years and the same son is picked up in a multi-state sting of online pedophiles. I'm sure all those pictures and videos he was trading, all those children oh, I'm sure they were asking for it too
Back to your friends, Cummings, Catherine Pugh, rod. Funny how are your friends are corrupt or convicted. With that previous charge still on the books you really had to call in some favors to make this go away. Close to 900 people picked up, you managed to make that case
disappear somewhere in between the state and federal level, with some RR help there. Wouldn't want him to pay for the crimes he committed would we?
You owe so much to so many people and they are really pulling your strings now aren't they?
You are unfit for the bench you do not
Aggiehawg post earlier in this thread (page# 1130, I believe...)nortex97 said:
Sullivan has beclowned the federal judiciary ("Justice is blind?") with his hatred of this party/individual. He is a compromised disgrace and there's nothing else really to say about him, for me.
Wray opening a new investigation now just gives folks cover if/when asked to testify to the senate next month. "Ongoing investigation." He's almost as bad as Comey.
Yes, Aggiehawg is right. But thinking in terms of a chess move, Wray has effectively pinned the Queen in front of the King...Quote:
Key point.Oooh!!Quote:
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Second, when Attorney General Barr tasked U.S. Attorney John Durham with looking into the origins of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation and part of the focus of that investigation involved the investigation of Gen. Flynn it would have been ill-advised to have FBI Inspections Division initiate its own investigation of FBI conduct at the same time U.S. Attorney Durham was conducting a criminal investigation that involved many of the same people. There was already an IG investigation underway on the narrow issue of the FISA applications, whereas Durham's investigation is thought to be much broader. Having a third parallel investigation conducted by FBI Inspection Division, where the same people would be interviewed or targeted yet again is simply not a wise idea. In that situation, the administrative review is always going to wait for the criminal investigation to be completed. AG Barr has made frequent references recently to the Durham probe coming to the end of its investigative phase, and the timing of Dr. Wray's announcement may be tied to that fact.
The first time a screed from the same guy was posted, I noted that Rod Rosenstein was the US Attorney for the district of Maryland before he was tapped as a Deputy Attorney General. So there is some factual background but other than that?Quote:
Edit - the stuff on his son might be interesting to look into.
No. Might succeed in blocking some Congressional investigation but should not affect any criminal proceedings.Quote:
But does that block on responses stops legal proceedings, as in preventing testimony, or revealing evidence, such as key documents?
aggiehawg said:Quote:
Edit - the stuff on his son might be interesting to look into.
Color me skeptical.
Could be a simple case where the victim refused to press charges, i.e. "bought off" so the prosecution was dropped. That happens a lot.VegasAg86 said:aggiehawg said:Quote:
Edit - the stuff on his son might be interesting to look into.
Color me skeptical.
Agreed, but did he really escape charges 2 times, on seemingly significant matters?
It could be as simple as "we're not prosecuting the judge's son", unstated, of course, but understood.
I disagree with Jarrett about the ex parte take. Wilkinson is not a litigant in this case, neither is Sullivan for that matter. he's made himself the focus of the circuit court because of his highly unusual, if not prohibited, orders and he is of course subject to that court's jurisdiction but he is not a true litigant with a justiciable interest.TurkeyBaconLeg said:
Hardest working man in social media...I sincerely hope Mark gets the mental health he desperately needs (I know you're reading this Mark, using one of your countless socks) so for you:will25u said:
Hahahahaha! I knew I really liked Brian Cates (@drawandstrike).
He calls out our very own MFBarnes and figured out a long time ago the @RoscoeBDavis1 is MFBarnes.
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...So, what is it that Judge Sullivan hopes to accomplish by hiring Attorney Wilkinson?
My theory is that this course was urged upon him by supporters who recognize that, if left to his own devices, Judge Sullivan was quite capable of responding to the Circuit Court's order with a caustic, derisive, and thereby self-defeating screed challenging the DOJ motion.
In well-known poker parlance, I think Judge Sullivan's supporters fear he's close to going "on tilt."
.....
Placing Beth Wilkinson -- well known and respected by all the Circuit Court Judges -- between Judge Sullivan and the three-judge panel of the appeals court seems to me to be an effort to ensure that Judge Sullivan's response is measured and non-antagonistic -- even though he's likely steaming that the Circuit Court has embarrassed him publicly by issuing the Order the way they did.
.....
Her reputation is one of ensuring that "cooler heads prevail". With a week to prepare a response, I think she'll be successful in making that happen.
Then again, it is Judge Sullivan.
Although Sullivan has managed to make himself into an adversary of both Flynn and the DOJ, he isn't a party. Further, if a judge cannot control his personal feelings well enough to be able to craft his own response without being combative and insulting to his superior court in that he needs a babysitter (and an expensive one at that) then he's done as a federal judge, in my view.Quote:
Judge Sullivan has hired the very experienced and very well-known Washington DC criminal defense attorney Beth Wilkinson to "represent" him in connection with the Circuit Court order, although it remains an open question whether the Circuit Court will accept or hear anything from her on Judge Sullivan's behalf. Their order was specific as to him, he's not a "party" represented by counsel, and if Judge Sullivan is not capable of answering a question about the application of a Rule of Criminal Procedure, the Appeals Court might want to take up the question of Judge Sullivan's fitness to serve as a district court judge, since understanding and applying the Rules of Procedure is kind of a basic job requirement for the position.