This is why I think something more Is going on. This appears so out of character based on what I've learned about him.FrioAg 00 said:
Again you guys are creating Sullivan into a liberal which he is not.
And the lawyer helping him with his argument? Her last big client was Brett Kavanaugh when she was helping him prepare for smacking down Ford.
So "toe the line" meaning he was protecting them? Okay, I can see that.nortex97 said:
Wray is going for a 3rd/fresh effort to clear the current FBI from the 'former/disgraced' group that is about to be indicted for a massive conspiracy/multiple crimes. "Those people no longer work here."
well just from a layman's perspective it sounds like Durham found a whole bunch of dirt by digging deep (using a lot of resources) so much so that Wray will be unable to excuse or explain away the circumstances (toe the line) and so he (Wray) has started a separate "investigation" so that when Durham's evidence starts coming out he can say "hey I found that too".aggiehawg said:No idea.JJMt said:What does that mean?will25u said:
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Actually, I think the investigation by Jensen into the Flynn debacle was directly over target, then Barr tasked Jensen to work with Durham to cut out the rot that was left.Quote:
well just from a layman's perspective it sounds like Durham found a whole bunch of dirt by digging deep (using a lot of resources) so much so that Wray will be unable to excuse or explain away the circumstances (toe the line) and so he (Wray) has started a separate "investigation" so that when Durham's evidence starts coming out he can say "hey I found that too".
Just spitballing
I read that as saying Durham is relying on non-FBI controlled witnesses and evidence, thereby bringing up a lot of lines of evidence that Wray couldn't spin or hide away. If this outside resources show the FBI was corrupt and made NO effort to investigate or remedy it, Wray would be shown to be be in deep. So he has to make a strong move to avoid the storm coming his way. Just MO.JJMt said:What does that mean?will25u said:
IMHO, if Wray is more black than white hat, I suspect he's thinking or realized he's being "outgunned" in terms of resources to potentially protect his turf from Durham's bloodhounds.aggiehawg said:No idea.JJMt said:What does that mean?will25u said:
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Remarkable: Sullivan Hires Hugely Expensive Lawyer
I can think of two possible reasons for this off hand.
One reason is that Sullivan may possibly fear disciplinary action for his contumacious actions--contumacious toward obvious DC Circuit precedent. He may feel he needs help in fending off the consequences of his action.
The other reason may be that he feels he needs help in explaining his actions. I have a problem with this, however, in that the Court of Appeals ordered the "district judge" (Sullivan) to respond. I took it that that meant the Court of Appeals wanted Sullivan's own explanation for his actions. Like TechnoFog (also below) I have to wonder whether the Court of Appeals will even allow this--who ever heard of a judge calling in a boutique defense lawyer to explain an order he has given, when the Appeals Court has asked him for an explanation? If he can't explain his own orders he should step down. Is he really flipping the Appeals Court off?
All things considered, I have to go with the first alternative, but we shall see.....
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I commented previously that, at the root, this is a major problem for Roberts to address, and sooner rather than later.
This circus act by Sullivan is fast becoming a train-wreck fiasco for the reputation of the Judiciary. The longer this goes on, the more divided the country becomes, and that image will now extend to the Judiciary as a whole.
If Sullivan dares to put forth a document drafted by Wilkinson, or if Wilkinson presents herself before the bench of the Court of Appeals; they should cite Sullivan for contempt, remove him immediately from the Flynn case, and appoint a new judge. Sullivan can only "win" by turning his courtroom into a political boxing match, which ought to concern Roberts greatly.
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.....Judge Emmet Sullivan appears to be the first-ever federal judge who, having been ordered to personally respond to a writ petition, has hired outside private counsel as an attempted means of doing so.....
Look, I'm not freaking out about this because a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. That includes a judge. He still has a right to counsel. Horribad look for a federal judge to need one to defend his own judicial orders because he apparently can't but still is his right.drcrinum said:
So, who is pulling his string... that is the 64 dollar question.aggiehawg said:Look, I'm not freaking out about this because a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. That includes a judge. He still has a right to counsel. Horribad look for a federal judge to need one to defend his own judicial orders because he apparently can't but still is his right.drcrinum said:
I have hired outside counsel on occasion. Granted Sullivan got his own ass in a crack because he went rogue. But this move raises questions of why he went so rogue as to wreck his entire career. Thirty years on the bench? He's been threatened many many times, so why now?
There seems to be much else going on behind the scenes. Unprecendented use of in camera, ex parte and sealed filings? Maybe?
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Wray's decision to investigate also comes late. The bureau's probe only comes after numerous revelations that former senior FBI officials and agents involved in Flynn's case allegedly engaged in misconduct to target the three star general, who became President Donald Trump's most trusted campaign advisor.
Despite all these revelations, Wray has promised that the bureau will examine whether any employees engaged in misconduct during the court of the investigation and "evaluate whether any improvements in FBI policies and procedures need to be made." Based on what we know, how can we trust an unbiased investigation from the very bureau that targeted Flynn.
Ellis Wyatt said:Durham is getting close to the heart of the matter and Wray can't play Sgt. Schultz anymore. Wray has to pretend he's trying to root out the corrupt actors despite the fact that he's made no attempt to do so since he's been there.JJMt said:What does that mean?will25u said:
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Flynn's attorney, the doughty Sidney Powell, therefore filed a petition for writ of mandate with the District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeal, asking that it force Flynn to grant the motion to dismiss, negate the requests for helpful briefs, and remove Sullivan from the case.
This type of mandate petition is notorious for its failure rate. Appellate courts do not like to involve themselves in a case before it's reached its conclusion. This time, however, the appellate court not only took up the writ petition, it ordered Judge Sullivan to explain himself. This doesn't mean Flynn will win on the writ the appellate court may just be insulating itself from the fallout if it rules against Flynn but one can't help but be hopeful.
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When Sullivan armed himself with a lawyer, he effectively announced to the world that this isn't just about whether the court will reverse his decision-making or remove him from the case. Instead, Sullivan is worried that the appellate court will look at his conduct, rather than his legal reasoning.
No wonder, then, that a million theories suddenly emerged about his having been bribed to rule as he did, about his possible conflicts of interest, and about his possibly unsavory family connections. You name it, and people thought it and rightly so because for a judge to hire a lawyer under these circumstances practically screams out that there's something wrong here.
I used to think it was a paranoid position but I'm starting to think that the Obama administration put together a dossier using NSA-type collection methods on just about anyone with a modicum of power so that in the event they needed to pull their strings, they could. My guess with Sullivan is that there's some low level kickbacks getting passed along (ie some cash from plaintiff attorneys for favorable rulings that force higher settlements or some such) where the exposure is enough to cause real trouble.aggiehawg said:Look, I'm not freaking out about this because a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. That includes a judge. He still has a right to counsel. Horribad look for a federal judge to need one to defend his own judicial orders because he apparently can't but still is his right.drcrinum said:
I have hired outside counsel on occasion. Granted Sullivan got his own ass in a crack because he went rogue. But this move raises questions of why he went so rogue as to wreck his entire career. Thirty years on the bench? He's been threatened many many times, so why now?
There seems to be much else going on behind the scenes. Unprecendented use of in camera, ex parte and sealed filings? Maybe?
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Because whatever Flynn must know has to be completely radioactive to Motivate the need to push someone who is otherwise a decently respected jurist completely off the reservation like this.
